Wonder if there's any connection?
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It could be anything. I made the trip back to Perry county Kentucky for Thanksgiving and asked someone who lives the same life lifestyle in the past. He agreed with you all. He said money and drugs. That it had to be more than one killer and the killers were known. He asked about toxicology reports saying generally what is in the system is what's being sold or transported. Even if it's only one person doing the drugs. KR was only shot once in the head if he would have been left alive he would have known who the shooters were for sure. How would he have handled it? Would he have told the cops or gone after them? The next question asked: did they live above their means?Retribution for what?
Very good points made here! Ohio/Kentucky, sort of hand in hand, with the drugs, corrupt LE, he said/she said, what would the youngest have told... if left alive?It could be anything. I made the trip back to Perry county Kentucky for Thanksgiving and asked someone who lives the same life lifestyle in the past. He agreed with you all. He said money and drugs. That it had to be more than one killer and the killers were known. He asked about toxicology reports saying generally what is in the system is what's being sold or transported. Even if it's only one person doing the drugs. KR was only shot once in the head if he would have been left alive he would have known who the shooters were for sure. How would he have handled it? Would he have told the cops or gone after them? The next question asked: did they live above their means?
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What if we look at this a different way. What if this wasn't about drugs but a family thing? It's been said that this couldn't be backwoods justice but, I'm here to tell you that it could be retribution. Intelligence is not passed out by the spot you hold on a map and, you can't assure silence like this unless unless you're protecting each other. We know by history that even the mexican mafia has leaks. People talk and turn on each other when push comes to shove. If this is a another family coming together to kill they will not turn on one another. They moved together as one and they will protect each other. Thats my thoughts on this whole thing. My thoughts are just my own and I look forward to reading what you all thunk about it.
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Very good points made here! Ohio/Kentucky, sort of hand in hand, with the drugs, corrupt LE, he said/she said, what would the youngest have told... if left alive?
I am from a very small county in Kentucky...... people joke about "the bodies are never found" there. Honestly, that's the truth!
I am just now catching this case, trying to catch up. From what I've read thus far, it reminds me of exactly where I grew up, with the exception..... the bodies are never found.
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Pike County in the news again.
http://wdtn.com/2017/11/26/pike-cou...etermine-if-remains-found-in-probe-are-human/
Same. It's true though. One other thing that was tossed around was that this family had done someone so dirty that it was just unforgivable (family or not). The person(s) couldn't get it out of their head. They stewed on it and planned it in their head, until something else happened to put into play. I think this could have been brewing, and the Rs and HHG, never knew the person(s) were capable of this. They were caught completely off guard.
It could be anything. I made the trip back to Perry county Kentucky for Thanksgiving and asked someone who lives the same life lifestyle in the past. He agreed with you all. He said money and drugs. That it had to be more than one killer and the killers were known. He asked about toxicology reports saying generally what is in the system is what's being sold or transported. Even if it's only one person doing the drugs. KR was only shot once in the head if he would have been left alive he would have known who the shooters were for sure. How would he have handled it? Would he have told the cops or gone after them? The next question asked: did they live above their means?
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Those are interesting observations and likely accurate. It would explain why LE has redacted all information from tox reports in the final autopsy reports.
As for your last question, none of the family members appeared to be living beyond their means. Living in run down trailers and campers, driving older cars they fixed up themselves. All the adults worked full time, though low paying jobs.
That's usually the kind of crime only one person would commit. Its difficult to get a group of others to go along with planning and executing a more detailed massacre of 8 family members in 4 locations. Rhodens just didn't have the power or money to generate that kind of ill will with so many people, not enough to risk getting killed or sent to prison for life.
Rhodens may have angered someone who wanted personal revenge, but they probably were also a threat to others in a powerful criminal enterprise that had a great deal to lose (like people involved in drug trafficking and/or other criminal ring) The mass killing was to eliminate a threat and send a very powerful message to others "in the know" to cease operations or keep their mouths shut. That message could have applied to anyone in southern Ohio and KY, too.
The smart thing for LE to do would have been to offer protection to those locals who they thought might know the killers. LE made a deliberate, very public choice to NOT protect those witnesses who could have helped them. JMO, that means LE didn't want witnesses to talk, with some members LE possibly involved in the massacre themselves.
One scenario (among many) I've considered is a variation on the theme of competition between warring criminal factions in the region. Is it possible that a criminal enterprise that had cooperation or participation from local LE was trying to eliminate competition from another gang that wasn't linked to LE?
This sounds very possible.... Someone sure would not want competition if they were protected or had participation from LE....
Dewine back in the news for politics. Maybe he should take some time off politicking to get this case solved....
http://wdtn.com/2017/11/30/dewine-husted-to-join-governor-campaigns-in-ohio/
Members of and advisers to the winning companies include Cleveland businessman Andy Rayburn (Buckeye Relief), Columbus developer Bill Schottenstein (Pure Ohio Wellness), Gov. John Kasich's former spokesman Chris Schrimpf (Cresco Labs) and investors in Ohio's 2015 failed marijuana legalization campaign Chris Stock and Brian Kessler (Riviera Creek Holdings), according to records released by the commerce department.
The businesses awarded the licenses are:
Buckeye Relief LLC in Eastlake (179.28 points)
Grow Ohio Pharmaceuticals LLC in Newton Township (173.44 points)
OPC Cultivation LLC in Huron (173.28 points)
Riviera Creek Holdings LLC in Youngstown (172.72 points)
Pure Ohio Wellness LLC in Springfield (167.64 points)
Columbia Care OH LLC in Mt. Orab (167.08 points)
Terradiol Ohio LLC in Canton (165.48 points)
Standard Wellness Company LLC in Gibsonburg (161.28 points)
AT-CPC of Ohio LLC in Akron (161.28 points)
Cresco Labs Ohio LLC in Yellow Springs (159.80 points)
Parma Wellness Center LLC in Parma (153.08 points)
Harvest Grows LLC in Hamilton Township or Cleveland (142.04 points)
The lack of any progress at all in the Rhoden Massacre investigation is going to hurt DeWine in his race. It's hard to run on your record as AG with a failed investigation on such a huge case. By the time the campaigns heat up, it will be 2 years with no suspects, no arrests, no news. He'll not be able to run on the issue of drug problems in Ohio.
Remember when he announced he was running for governor just a couple of weeks after the murders? Wow.
JJ Jenkins gets prison time....
http://wdtn.com/2017/12/02/ex-deputy-gets-prison-for-neighbors-shooting-death/
That's usually the kind of crime only one person would commit. Its difficult to get a group of others to go along with planning and executing a more detailed massacre of 8 family members in 4 locations. Rhodens just didn't have the power or money to generate that kind of ill will with so many people, not enough to risk getting killed or sent to prison for life.
Rhodens may have angered someone who wanted personal revenge, but they probably were also a threat to others in a powerful criminal enterprise that had a great deal to lose (like people involved in drug trafficking and/or other criminal ring) The mass killing was to eliminate a threat and send a very powerful message to others "in the know" to cease operations or keep their mouths shut. That message could have applied to anyone in southern Ohio and KY, too.
The smart thing for LE to do would have been to offer protection to those locals who they thought might know the killers. LE made a deliberate, very public choice to NOT protect those witnesses who could have helped them. JMO, that means LE didn't want witnesses to talk, with some members LE possibly involved in the massacre themselves.
One scenario (among many) I've considered is a variation on the theme of competition between warring criminal factions in the region. Is it possible that a criminal enterprise that had cooperation or participation from local LE was trying to eliminate competition from another gang that wasn't linked to LE?