OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #32

[rsd1200]

Personally, I had the opposite thoughts on his posts. Did he ever get himself verified? I thought he disappeared when that was suggested....

I almost think that he was who he said he was, but, he was so sure that this was the work of a serial killer that he had blinders on to any other theory. I have a couple pet theories that are on the top of my list, but, I've also got two or three others on the list, with one or two on a back burner, and another simmering on a side burner.

There's so many facets to this case, that it's hard for me to nail one specific theory to the wall. Jell-O. I don't see this as being one, local, serial killer, similar to the character of "Dexter", but, stranger things have happened, so, I'm willing to toss it about at this point. :thinking:

I do think that it is quite possible that whoever he is, he may be right about some things he tossed out;

"Born in the county,Raised in the county,. Knows about everybody in the county and is known by a majority of the citizens..Nice guy, Calculating,no remorse and evil... "

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Thanks, that's very helpful information. Would it be ok to post the photo here, I wonder?

Bless her heart, I still feel so sad for her. She tried so hard, had just gotten her new home, new grandbaby. She worked so hard for her family. How could those monsters do what they did?

I don’t know how anyone can take one life let alone the lives of 8. My heart breaks for all of them.

If we were to find out tomorrow that members of this family were running the biggest drug operation in the state of Ohio, it would never change my opinions and compassion I feel for them. I don’t think they were, just trying to get my point across...

The monsters who did this are soul less, disgusting, and the death penalty is too nice for them.

 

[rsd1200]

I'll start with FR and CR2, then maybe tackle the big guys after. Any volunteers for those? Maybe we could make CR1, GR and KR a team project.

Also, feel free to add photos, maps, etc. that may be of help.

I volunteered for KR, but if you'd prefer I take someone else that's fine. Like I said, I'm semi-retired so I can take GR too.

 

[Betty P]

FR’s location of being found is there but redacted I believe. I’ve never seen such odd things blacked out on autopsies. Honestly, some of the stuff that’s blacked out just makes those who feed off of gossip on run rampant on other forums.

It’s often assumed because things are redacted, there must be something there. In all honestly, the redaction appear random and meant to cause confusion. (besides the gunshot wound redactions)

CR1 had mention of a vertebrae fracture on his. Working in the medical field for as long as I have, I see a fracture vertebrae and the fact he was shot in the torso, and come to the conclusion that his spine was fractured from bullets entering his thorax.

He also had skull fractures-consistent with bullet wounds to the head, IMO.

I also noticed FR had post mortem scans done of his head and upper chest, so assume the gunshot wounds he received were lower than the head area.

As for FR, there were multiple sources in the news media quoted saying FR was found in bed with HG and the baby. There's no reason to assume witnesses and reporters were lying about that. For what purpose?

I also wondered if the mods would consider letting us have multiple threads for discussing the Rhoden murders. I haven't peeked at the other site yet, but perhaps it would allow that. The case is 2 yrs old and we're on our 32nd general discussion thread. It would be great if we could have separate threads to discuss a few different topics - like one for autopsy reports, etc. Might be too late to ask that, though.

 

[amauet1]

I’ll do DR. Just a note, her fb is not as open as it once was.

Speaking of her social media, one thing I’ve noticed is the picture of the living room at her new house. Look at the door, when it opens, it would open so the door opens to the right, blocking that hallway or bedroom when the doors open.

When JM opened the door, he would not have been able to see that area of the house to the right (imagine him standing there facing the outside of the door, the door handle would be on his left hand side, swinging to his right when opened) So, IMO wherever he saw Dana’s legs was in the living room/kitchen area. JMO

I have "heard' that CRjr's room was to the right of the front door.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I also noticed FR had post mortem scans done of his head and upper chest, so assume the gunshot wounds he received were lower than the head area.

As for FR, there were multiple sources in the news media quoted saying FR was found in bed with HG and the baby. There's no reason to assume witnesses and reporters were lying about that. For what purpose?

I also wondered if the mods would consider letting us have multiple threads for discussing the Rhoden murders. I haven't peeked at the other site yet, but perhaps it would allow that. The case is 2 yrs old and we're on our 32nd general discussion thread. It would be great if we could have separate threads to discuss a few different topics - like one for autopsy reports, etc. Might be too late to ask that, though.

Radiology scans are done on every deceased individual that comes into the coroners office. It’s standard protocol for a few reasons. To avoid the gory detail, the coroners need to know what, if any, metal implants are present inside the body cavity before the internal autopsy begins. When there’s trauma, such as bullet wounds, bullets can travel all over, if they don’t exit the body. Radiology exams help the coroner locate any implanted metal from surgeries and/or foreign bodies from trauma.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I have "heard' that CRjr's room was to the right of the front door.

I have heard that as well.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I almost think that he was who he said he was, but, he was so sure that this was the work of a serial killer that he had blinders on to any other theory. I have a couple pet theories that are on the top of my list, but, I've also got two or three others on the list, with one or two on a back burner, and another simmering on a side burner.

There's so many facets to this case, that it's hard for me to nail one specific theory to the wall. Jell-O. I don't see this as being one, local, serial killer, similar to the character of "Dexter", but, stranger things have happened, so, I'm willing to toss it about at this point. :thinking:

I do think that it is quite possible that whoever he is, he may be right about some things he tossed out;

"Born in the county,Raised in the county,. Knows about everybody in the county and is known by a majority of the citizens..Nice guy, Calculating,no remorse and evil... "

I know a lot think that profile fits a certain former LE officer and it does. But it also fits the W’s-loyalty to family, if his wife would talk, children, country lifestyle..

 

[rsd1200]

All of this story from DS has never seemed right. No one seems to know KR was taking the day off from his regular job to work on cars except DS. Even his daughter who talked to him regularly thought he was at work. DS bringing someone with him that afternoon could make a great excuse and witness as to why his fresh finger prints and DNA was there. I truly believe he was there earlier and came back. Maybe he helped himself to some things he knew no one would miss. I don't know if it was the night before or that morning, but I think he knew KR was dead when they pulled in to check on him. After he knows KR is murdered, he takes the time to wonder around the property before calling 911? He had no concern that the murder(s) could still be there? Did he know they were not?
I've wondered from early on that KR's death was a separate crime from the other seven.

As far as motives go, could CR1 have borrowed money from a shady lender and used it to buy DR's home instead of what he was supposed to use it for?

I think he knew he was deceased too. How, we don't know, but he's sketchy to me. Most all the Ms and Rs have abandoned his social media account, long ago. So he's not feeling much love. Is it because of this? Idk.

Your last sentence, I've wondered that too. Was he trying to get DR and the kids into that home, and used that money on that, (it's also been said, by family, that he was flush enough with cash to assist someone else, in a tight spot, and it was something that was not what I'd call cheap), and when it was time for payback, he didn't have the funds. The funds could have been to purchase something in the illegal business line and he ran up against someone who didn't cotton to their money not coming back, with interest.

 

[almond]

Didn't I read somewhere or maybe on one of the video's that, Stacie Rigsby, ( KR's ex and Luke's mother) sent DS and Luke and a driver to go check on KR? Why would a mother send her son to find his father possibly dead? Why didn't she go with him?

Hello everyone, I've been following along since the massacre happened but have never been brave enough to post. You guys are Amazing detectives and researchers and I am intimidated. :blushing: Don't want to ire the admins either. I have questions though...
Gary, how long had he been in Ohio when he was murdered and why was he in Ohio. This is where TOS might get me? What do we know about his life in KY. Was he running? Did he owe money?
I think he was alone in the "office" when someone showed up...don't know who. He called Csr , who was holding down the fort at Dana's place, and told him so and so was there. I think he was annoyed but felt he had to go, and did. Possibly Gary was already dead when Csr arrived to an ambush.

I'm also very much interested in the M*n*gome*y family and their land interests. Did Csr scoop up some property they wanted? It has been mentioned that one of the family had been lurking around Dana's place...

Okay, I'm going to see if I get deleted now. :facepalm:

Btw, I've yet to figure out what BBM means.

 

[Betty P]

I volunteered for KR, but if you'd prefer I take someone else that's fine. Like I said, I'm semi-retired so I can take GR too.

I think somewhere above I offered to take GR instead. I've started on CR2. I've got a busy weekend ahead, but will try to get it finished.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Me -HMR profile
Boots- HHG profile
RSD- KR profile

We need members for the profiles of:

CR1
DR
FR
CR2
GR

Me -HMR profile, DR
Boots- HHG profile, FR
RSD- KR profile
Betty-CR2

We need members for the profiles of:

CR1
GR

RSD, did you want to do GR? I wasn’t sure because I think we got some initials doubled up, up thread (easy to do with so many names and similar initials)

 

[Betty P]

Hello everyone, I've been following along since the massacre happened but have never been brave enough to post. You guys are Amazing detectives and researchers and I am intimidated. :blushing: Don't want to ire the admins either. I have questions though...
Gary, how long had he been in Ohio when he was murdered and why was he in Ohio. This is where TOS might get me? What do we know about his life in KY. Was he running? Did he owe money?
I think he was alone in the "office" when someone showed up...don't know who. He called Csr , who was holding down the fort at Dana's place, and told him so and so was there. I think he was annoyed but felt he had to go, and did. Possibly Gary was already dead when Csr arrived to an ambush.

I'm also very much interested in the M*n*gome*y family and their land interests. Did Csr scoop up some property they wanted? It has been mentioned that one of the family had been lurking around Dana's place...

Okay, I'm going to see if I get deleted now. :facepalm:

Btw, I've yet to figure out what BBM means.

Chris Graves' big article "Death in the Foothills" covered some of GR's history - that he came and went, hadn't been there too long. CR1 was trying to help him kick drugs. Helped him find work and took control of his money so he didn't spend it on drugs.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/10/15/pike-county-death-foothills/91496698/

I've always wondered about the news report of by GR's brother Kenny in Greenup, KY who reported to LE the day after the murders that he was being chased by another car and was fearful for his life. LE said it wasn't connected, but it's one of those things that makes you wonder.

http://www.fox19.com/story/31824729...calls-911-fearful-for-his-life-after-killings

 

[rsd1200]

Hello everyone, I've been following along since the massacre happened but have never been brave enough to post. You guys are Amazing detectives and researchers and I am intimidated. :blushing: Don't want to ire the admins either. I have questions though...
Gary, how long had he been in Ohio when he was murdered and why was he in Ohio. This is where TOS might get me? What do we know about his life in KY. Was he running? Did he owe money?
I think he was alone in the "office" when someone showed up...don't know who. He called Csr , who was holding down the fort at Dana's place, and told him so and so was there. I think he was annoyed but felt he had to go, and did. Possibly Gary was already dead when Csr arrived to an ambush.

I'm also very much interested in the M*n*gome*y family and their land interests. Did Csr scoop up some property they wanted? It has been mentioned that one of the family had been lurking around Dana's place...

Okay, I'm going to see if I get deleted now. :facepalm:

Btw, I've yet to figure out what BBM means.

Hi Almond!

I've heard a couple things about GR. CR1 was helping him stay clean, and that he'd been there for awhile, and I'd also heard that he'd been scooped up to go get vehicles with CR1 the next day, which would complete everyone being in place. I'd always wondered if CR1 was staying at DR's because LM had said that the "work trailer" (that is what I call it) was basically a shell.

I too am very interested in that individual that you speak about. I had run across a few things but can't broach them due to TOS, but, it seems they knew one another, and that person is elderly, and may not be able to get up and about now, but has a lot of pull, and is a super nice fella, till he ain't.

Please keep posting!

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Hello everyone, I've been following along since the massacre happened but have never been brave enough to post. You guys are Amazing detectives and researchers and I am intimidated. :blushing: Don't want to ire the admins either. I have questions though...
Gary, how long had he been in Ohio when he was murdered and why was he in Ohio. This is where TOS might get me? What do we know about his life in KY. Was he running? Did he owe money?
I think he was alone in the "office" when someone showed up...don't know who. He called Csr , who was holding down the fort at Dana's place, and told him so and so was there. I think he was annoyed but felt he had to go, and did. Possibly Gary was already dead when Csr arrived to an ambush.

I'm also very much interested in the M*n*gome*y family and their land interests. Did Csr scoop up some property they wanted? It has been mentioned that one of the family had been lurking around Dana's place...

Okay, I'm going to see if I get deleted now. :facepalm:

Btw, I've yet to figure out what BBM means.

Welcome! Don’t be intimidated we are all nice here! Even if we disagree, it’s all in the common interest of finding justice for the Rhodens and HG.

 

[rsd1200]

I think somewhere above I offered to take GR instead. I've started on CR2. I've got a busy weekend ahead, but will try to get it finished.

That's cool. I'll just work on KR. I don't know that I'll get finished this weekend though. I've got some little folks coming to visit.

 

[rsd1200]

Me -HMR profile, DR
Boots- HHG profile, FR
RSD- KR profile
Betty-CR2

We need members for the profiles of:

CR1
GR

RSD, did you want to do GR? I wasn’t sure because I think we got some initials doubled up, up thread (easy to do with so many names and similar initials)

Betty said she wanted GR. If anyone needs me to take another though, I'll be more than happy too.

 

[Betty P]

Me -HMR profile, DR
Boots- HHG profile, FR
RSD- KR profile
Betty-CR2

We need members for the profiles of:

CR1
GR

RSD, did you want to do GR? I wasn’t sure because I think we got some initials doubled up, up thread (easy to do with so many names and similar initials)

I offered to do GR, too.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I offered to do GR, too.

Betty said she wanted GR. If anyone needs me to take another though, I'll be more than happy too.

I think we got it figured out. Sorry about that! There seemed to be confusion and cross posting.

Me -HMR profile, DR
Boots- HHG profile, FR
RSD- KR profile
Betty-CR2, GR

We need members for the profiles of:

CR1


IMO, I think we should do CR1 together because of all the land, businesses, etc. but if anyone feels comfortable doing it, that works too.

Does this look correct to everyone?

 

[almond]

Chris Graves' big article "Death in the Foothills" covered some of GR's history - that he came and went, hadn't been there too long. CR1 was trying to help him kick drugs. Helped him find work and took control of his money so he didn't spend it on drugs.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/10/15/pike-county-death-foothills/91496698/

I've always wondered about the news report of by GR's brother Kenny in Greenup, KY who reported to LE the day after the murders that he was being chased by another car and was fearful for his life. LE said it wasn't connected, but it's one of those things that makes you wonder.

http://www.fox19.com/story/31824729...calls-911-fearful-for-his-life-after-killings

Thank you Betty!

Another thing I too wonder about, the brother being chased and fearful. That story sure went away quick. It made me curious about the R's lives in KY.