The thing that bothers me about custody being the reason even more after that posting is if you are in a heated custody battle would you be posting stuff like that about the boys you are hanging with for the public to see and be used against you in a custody battle. If they did do the murders I think it was more than custody. JMO
It's just mind-boggling to try and grasp the decisions made that lead to this. AW saying "HR" was like a daughter. She also said GWsr and CR 1 "we're more like brothers than friends". I guess as you say other relationships broke.
I've wondered, though not seen this anywhere, this is TOTALLY my wandering mind...DR and CR1 divorced, though it appears amicable. Is it my possible one of them had a more intimate relationship with AW or GWsr at some point that also created hostility? (MODS please delete if this type of speculation isn't permitted and my apologies!)
Lastly, the scene at CR1's. BJM's 911 call definitely said there was blood everywhere and something like "it looked like someone beat the hell out of them". So what were they wearing that they didn't leave DNA...or did they? And just how long did they stay there with two dead men while they waited to continue killing the rest of the family....
This has probably been discussed if so sorry but I missed it. In one of Jakes interviews he stated he went to the hospital to see the new baby. Was that ever proven to have happened or did he make that up?
Yeah I would like to see pics cause everyone takes pics of big sister with the new baby. But I guess he could say he did but they were on his lost phone. I would think HR would have posted pics of the two girls meeting if it happened like he said. jmoI've asked that question myself. The only people who would know, are probably deceased, unless hospital staff remember, or there are pics of him, and S, at the hospital. He said he took her there to see baby K. I also want someone to come forward and say; Yes, I saw him with the S, the week prior to the murders.
Thank you for bearing witness. I applaud you for your efforts. Best arrive early and prepare to stand in line. Looking forward to your comments.I'm gonna go Thursday to see Angela. She should be the highlight of the week!
Courthouse is small. Crowded. Alot of press. I heard many didn't get into see JW today as it was full.
will see!
Tell us more about the verbal fighting. I don't recall reading about this.Jmo I thought he meant SW but after seeing the verbal fighting going on the day of the birth I am not sure,
Writing my theory in the stoory form.I'm not getting this. What is it an exerpt from?
Hi everyone, this is my first ever post! I joined websleuths because of this case. It has always haunted me. I live a couple hours from Pike County in a very similar rural area of Ohio. The murders happened on our 10th wedding anniversary and we happened to be celebrating with a long weekend away about an hour away from Pike County. I've followed just about every detail I could get my hands on the last 2.5 years. What an emotional rollercoaster of a case this has been! I don't really know where to begin as far as commenting on anything specific, there's just too much. My husband is an avid outdoors man and very well versed in firearms so we've had quite a few conversations about the silencer when the information was released. My FIL is a Concealed Carry Instructor in our County as well. I didn't realize how easy it is to make one at home until speaking to both of them about it. I've enjoyed reading all of your theories so much. What a bright group of minds!
Just because the older gen had some money doesn't mean they handed it to their son's family freely. Lots of well off elders will let their kids struggle/make their own fortune.
So being raised to feel entitled but not knowing how to generate the needed money to live how they wanted they felt entitled to steal and cheat.
I think the Ws could well have welcomed theft-worthy loot if there was money or easily saleable dope around like pills.
There's been rumors somewhere, can't remember, about a shatter lab. ??? Am I imagining it?
The thing that bothers me about custody being the reason even more after that posting is if you are in a heated custody battle would you be posting stuff like that about the boys you are hanging with for the public to see and be used against you in a custody battle. If they did do the murders I think it was more than custody. JMO
public defenders . Court appointed with death penalty qualifications .I had to work all day and was chomping at the bit to get on here I have limited time because I need to go to bed but I am wondering did he have public offenders today or did someone pay for an attorney?
Trying to figure out surveillance with dogs. Saw a commercial with Fitbit where old dude runs a picture of heart, flower etc then prints it. Them things also do real time too. Affix one under dogs collar and know his pattern at night and in real time. I was thinking along lines they were using animals to surveil Rs not to surveil animals were at any given time. Any thoughts? Oh also JMO
I know this will be somewhat speculative/ local gossip. But does anybody have any indication of the type of involvement that JW had in SW life while HR was alive? Did he show interest in SW or did he use her as a barganing chip with HR? I'm mainly curious bc I keep trying to get a feeling of the social interaction of the Wagner family. Was AW pulling the strings, or was JW feeding AW stories about HR not letting him see SW. And how hes was trying his best but the Rhodens were just unreasonable and he needed to do something. Iknow probably questions that we will never have answered....
JW's dog could've been outfitted with a GoPro. He could have just been pretending to be having fun with his new toy while in reality, he's making a map of the scene. How to get around the most troublesome areas, say at CR1's, and FR's? Who'd ever think he was plotting to kill them? Just having fun with your new toy.j