OK OK - Molly Miller, 17, & Colt Haynes, 21, Wilson, 7 July 2013 - #1

[hot cawfeee]

Great job on the interview OkieGranny-----wow---anyone else hearing the song "The Night the Lights Went Out in GA"????

The cop in pursuit would have radioed in what he was doing, make and model of car, tag number, direction he was travelling-----and then possibly was told to let the car go?

 

[Hatfield]

And, I'm still trying to figure all of this out. Molly's family is saying they don't believe it was her that used her phone after the 911 call. However, Colt's family is saying they talked to the guy she called at 6:00 am. He "knows" it was her that he talked to. I am assuming that he has talked to her frequently and knows her voice.

This is a small town where "everybody knows everybody else's business" so how has that not been shared with Molly's family? I find that really strange.

Going on that, it appears she was alive and didn't feel "in danger" at 6:00 am. I don't know about anybody else, but if I had been in the woods with somebody all night after a car crash and he had a broken ankle with the bone sticking out - once this guy answered the phone, I most definitely would have asked him for a ride! Or asked him to let somebody else know so they could give me a ride. I find it odd that she was in that situation and just said "oh, okay, talk to you later."

I think this puts another twist on this case.

It is very confusing. I suspect that even though both families have a missing person, the family members may not necessarily get along too well, even if Molly + Colt were friends. As far as whether all 3 were friends, that is a big question mark too. It could have been more of a "business" relationship, rather than true friends. And when things went bad, anger may have played a part possibly.

Regarding the alleged phone calls.
The ones from Colt to his friends seems to maybe have some truth to it, since the people he called ended up going out to try to find him and they said they talked with a home owner who ran into the search people and spoke with them.

Regarding the alleged phone calls from Molly, I am not so sure. The only reason I could think they could be mistaken or lying would be if the person they spoke with that said he got the call maybe was a different day and he was just mistaken of the day OR if there is some nefarious reason why they would want to make Mollys family think she had made it through the wreck too.
I could easily see where maybe the guy they talked with maybe just had the day wrong. Like maybe it was the previous day.

It is all so confusing and very scary.

It sounds like the area is somewhat wooded and in the sticks. If they did make it through the wreck and were together trying to walk out, I could even see where they maybe got lost with no food shelter or water for days. The terrain and being lost could have done them in which would be very sad since it would be hard to find them.

So many possibilities.

Search dogs would be helpful to start at the car area and see if they could prove they walked away from the car area. I think it would be important to see if dogs could prove they even left the car area. Good dogs should be able to pick up their trail I would think.

One thing I began to realize about the phone calls is that they occurred not long after the wreck. It sounded like the alleged calls from Colt + Molly occurred in very early morning hours with the wreck happening very late previous night. Colts was around 3 AM. So if they made it through the wreck, it doesnt mean they were out of danger because the whole event was basically still happening as morning unfolded.

 

[StacyMarie83]

Hey Stacy--- does anyone know what kind of animals are common to the area??? I think crows like to scavenge for shiny things like earrings and coins.
I am wondering if there are any carrion birds (I think thats the kind I want---eat flesh rather than grubs and worms).
I dont guess that family would permit hunters on the land??? Its coming on hunting season.

List of birds of Oklahoma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The New World vultures are not closely related to Old World vultures, but superficially resemble them because of convergent evolution. Like the Old World vultures, they are scavengers However, unlike Old World vultures, which find carcasses by sight, New World vultures have a good sense of smell with which they located carcasses.
Black Vulture, Coragyps atratus
Turkey Vulture, Cathartes aura

The family Pandionidae is a family of fish-eating birds of prey, possessing a very large, powerful hooked beak for tearing flesh from their prey, strong legs, powerful talons, and keen eyesight. The family is monotypic.
Osprey
Osprey, Pandion haliaetus

The family Accipitridae is a family of birds of prey and include hawks, eagles, kites, harriers and Old World vultures. These birds have very large powerful hooked beaks for tearing flesh from their prey, strong legs, powerful talons, and keen eyesight.
Swallow-tailed Kite, Elanoides forficatus (A)
White-tailed Kite, Elanus leucurus (A)
Mississippi Kite, Ictinia mississippiensis
Bald Eagle, Haliaeetus leucocephalus
Northern Harrier, Circus cyaneus


Northern Goshawk
Sharp-shinned Hawk, Accipiter striatus
Cooper's Hawk, Accipiter cooperii
Northern Goshawk, Accipiter gentilis
Harris's Hawk, Parabuteo unicinctus
Gray Hawk, Buteo plagiatus (H)
Red-shouldered Hawk, Buteo lineatus
Broad-winged Hawk, Buteo platypterus
Swainson's Hawk, Buteo swainsoni
Red-tailed Hawk, Buteo jamaicensis
Ferruginous Hawk, Buteo regalis
Rough-legged Hawk, Buteo lagopus
Golden Eagle, Aquila chrysaetos

These are all Oklahoma birds that are scavengers and/or have beaks to tear flesh from prey.

 

[Hatfield]

Here is one possible scenerio that could have gotten everyone mad at everyone right after the wreck. Lets suppose there was some sort of "stash" in the trunk, which even could be why the car chase began in the first place. Now lets suppose after the wreck, someone wanted to call 911 to get help to them at the car, but someone else did not want to call 911 because of the obvious trouble they would be in if help came to the car. So, maybe everyone got angry with everyone at that point, and then its anyones guess as to what happened next.

Im still not so sure that LE even called off the chase. They may have been still in the area patrolling around trying to spot them again.

The whole thing is so scary to even think about.

I keep hoping the 2 of them are just hiding out still thinking they are going to be in trouble. But if that was the case, then why wouldnt they at least phone their families to tell them they are OK at least.

 

[wfgodot]

This is one of the finest threads I've ever started - and it has nothing to do with me! I mean, just start with OkieGranny's invaluable transcripts of the radio stuff. Zounds - what a wealth of info there! And every poster is bringing something to this. I just tip my hat to all of you, I'm proud to have my name on this.

 

[Hatfield]

This is one of the finest threads I've ever started - and it has nothing to do with me! I mean, just start with OkieGranny's invaluable transcripts of the radio stuff. Zounds - what a wealth of info there! And every poster is bringing something to this. I just tip my hat to all of you, I'm proud to have my name on this.

We thank you for bringing it to everyone's attention. This case is one of the wildest and scariest cases I have ever heard about. And it happened so recently.

 

[StacyMarie83]

Here is one possible scenerio that could have gotten everyone mad at everyone right after the wreck. Lets suppose there was some sort of "stash" in the trunk, which even could be why the car chase began in the first place. Now lets suppose after the wreck, someone wanted to call 911 to get help to them at the car, but someone else did not want to call 911 because of the obvious trouble they would be in if help came to the car. So, maybe everyone got angry with everyone at that point, and then its anyones guess as to what happened next.

Im still not so sure that LE even called off the chase. They may have been still in the area patrolling around trying to spot them again.

The whole thing is so scary to even think about.

I keep hoping the 2 of them are just hiding out still thinking they are going to be in trouble. But if that was the case, then why wouldnt they at least phone their families to tell them they are OK at least.

I would LOVE to see the driver's call/text log!!!!!! I wonder if he tried to get them/him out of trouble himself or not. That could be very telling IMO I hope they ran too, I really do!!!

 

[McSpy]

Here is one possible scenerio that could have gotten everyone mad at everyone right after the wreck. Lets suppose there was some sort of "stash" in the trunk, which even could be why the car chase began in the first place. Now lets suppose after the wreck, someone wanted to call 911 to get help to them at the car, but someone else did not want to call 911 because of the obvious trouble they would be in if help came to the car. So, maybe everyone got angry with everyone at that point, and then its anyones guess as to what happened next.

Im still not so sure that LE even called off the chase. They may have been still in the area patrolling around trying to spot them again.

The whole thing is so scary to even think about.

I keep hoping the 2 of them are just hiding out still thinking they are going to be in trouble. But if that was the case, then why wouldnt they at least phone their families to tell them they are OK at least.

Bolded by me

The chase started when CN did a donut in front of a cop. IMO, there was something illegal in the car and someone stopped Molly from continuing her 911 call. Plus, Colt was on probation and supposedly, he wasn't checking in as he is required. As a result, there are warrants for his arrest. I think there is a chance Molly and Colt are hiding out. Perhaps one of the friends they called that night lied about not being able to connect with them. Since Colt was badly hurt, I think someone could have drove him to a hospital far from the scene. Perhaps, the Dallas/Fort Worth area. He is going to be a cripple if he doesn't get that ankle fixed. All this drama is not worth a life long handicap.

I hope they are okay.

Just my opinion.

 

[hot cawfeee]

that's exactly why i want to know the damage on the car :banghead:

was an insurance claim filed????? But since the family (maybe I should dub them The Family---and mods snip if I am getting snarky) won't permit any search, they wont go thru the insurance company. How many days befire a claim for damages must be filed???

 

[hot cawfeee]

Amen! I'm not understanding the difficulty of obtaining a search warrant or the hesitancy to obtain one. The entire property needs to be searched. Of course, this all took place 3 months ago, so there's no telling where any evidence could be at this point. Plenty of time, by now, to dispose of and/or remove any evidence.

I read that Molly is 1/2 Chickasaw. What can they do by going through the Chickasaw Nation? Can the Nation call in special investigators or something?

thats our windstorm!!!!!! great point love!!!! The Nation's investigators may be able make more inroads with the investigation.

 

[hot cawfeee]

I wondered that, too. LE didn't witness him actually driving the car, so he can always say it wasn't him - therefore, they have "no substantial reason" to question him. Even if he was seen driving earlier that evening, he can always claim it wasn't him that night. The chase happened at 10:30 pm so it was dark. With Love County calling off the pursuit, there is no witness that it was him driving. However, it was his girlfriend that reported the car stolen and then recanted that.

Even without prints maybe an accident investigator can make an educated guess as to the height of the driver by seats' position and mirrors.
And there was no blood in the car?????? hhmmmmmmm

 

[hot cawfeee]

A few thoughts this morning before trying to finish up that transcript:

Finally found the street address of the Property That Cannot Be Searched. It is the one I thought it was, on Long Hollow Road with a swimming pool in the middle of a circle drive. The area around the house is not fully treed, so I'm wondering exactly how far the property lines extend. Still trying figure out exactly where the car was found.

I want to know more about what was going on before the car chase. Colt had a baby with CN's girlfriend (not the owner of the car). Now, I don't know if this was a current or ex-girlfriend of CN's at the time she became pregnant, but she was allegedly beaten up by CN when she was six months pregnant. This is according to Molly's brother, who further states that she did press charges but nothing was done. I assume that means no arrest and no prosecution. This would indicate some degree of bad blood between these two young men. Why were they in the car together that night? Was Colt a willing passenger?

This car was a 2012 Honda Accord, not some rolling hunk o' junk that only needed a crumpled fender to be considered totalled. I'm wondering if the insurance company has any idea of the controversy surrounding the wreck of this vehicle. Insurance companies will jump at any chance to avoid paying out money. They have their own investigators who will check out a vehicle and the circumstances surrounding a wreck or theft, looking for fraud or any other reason not to pay out if they have reason to be suspicious. There's plenty of reason to be suspicious in this case, IF they know the details of what happened that night.

she would have liability on it-I am assuming she has a bank loan on The Car. Wonder who co-signed? She is a young lady w/out credit history-my assumption. And she has a child with CN? Is this a good car for a young mother with a small child? Not judging-just questioning her judgement. And that of the baby's father.

 

[McSpy]

It is very confusing. I suspect that even though both families have a missing person, the family members may not necessarily get along too well, even if Molly + Colt were friends. As far as whether all 3 were friends, that is a big question mark too. It could have been more of a "business" relationship, rather than true friends. And when things went bad, anger may have played a part possibly.

Regarding the alleged phone calls.
The ones from Colt to his friends seems to maybe have some truth to it, since the people he called ended up going out to try to find him and they said they talked with a home owner who ran into the search people and spoke with them.

Regarding the alleged phone calls from Molly, I am not so sure. The only reason I could think they could be mistaken or lying would be if the person they spoke with that said he got the call maybe was a different day and he was just mistaken of the day OR if there is some nefarious reason why they would want to make Mollys family think she had made it through the wreck too.
I could easily see where maybe the guy they talked with maybe just had the day wrong. Like maybe it was the previous day.

It is all so confusing and very scary.

It sounds like the area is somewhat wooded and in the sticks. If they did make it through the wreck and were together trying to walk out, I could even see where they maybe got lost with no food shelter or water for days. The terrain and being lost could have done them in which would be very sad since it would be hard to find them.

So many possibilities.

Search dogs would be helpful to start at the car area and see if they could prove they walked away from the car area. I think it would be important to see if dogs could prove they even left the car area. Good dogs should be able to pick up their trail I would think.

One thing I began to realize about the phone calls is that they occurred not long after the wreck. It sounded like the alleged calls from Colt + Molly occurred in very early morning hours with the wreck happening very late previous night. Colts was around 3 AM. So if they made it through the wreck, it doesnt mean they were out of danger because the whole event was basically still happening as morning unfolded.

Bolded by me

I don't know the families, but if I was Molly's folks, I'd be nervous with her hanging out with Colt. He seems like he is going down a bad path (police record, unplanned baby). IMO, he comes across as someone not thinking about his future. One never knows if these young people will stay on that path or grow up to be responsible adults. Colt is probably a good kid, but without direction. This isn't good for him or anyone he gets involved with, especially with meth around.

JMO

 

[McSpy]

Transcript of Interview with Colt Haynes' Sisters, Part 4

Listen to the interview here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcolo...t-do-you-think

Key to the participants:

H: Host
MHS: Colt's older sister
JHM: Colt's oldest sister

(This is a slightly cleaned-up version, edited for readability. The raw version has been kept intact in a separate file.)

H: Right. Um, now, did either one of them, to y'all's knowledge, ever make contact with anybody saying that they were being followed, they were being chased, because… ?

JHM: No. I didn't hear anything about any of that.

H: Oh, okay. So the last known contact was that they were lost in the woods between Pike and Long Hollow Road, which is right in the middle of their, right in the middle of their properties. Right in the middle of it.

JHM: Yes. And it's really, it's a pretty dense area and really, uh, it's not level terrain at all. There's lots and lots of creeks and things all through there that are not even, even traversed. Because we couldn't have taken four-wheelers or anything through there.

H: Oh, you wouldn't have even been able to get four-wheelers down in that area.

JHM: Well, I know they, they've flown, you know, the cops say they've done aerial searches for them and stuff, but the foliage was so thick, they wouldn't be able to see them probably anyway.

H: Right, right, they were probably just, you know, looking for some kind of movement. You know, that would seem out of the….

JHM: Anything, you know...

H: Yeah. Um, well, I was not planning on going to (unintelligible). I'm just having like a hundred questions popping up in my mind. I'm trying to organize them right now. Um, so, neither one of them had established a, you know, some kind of final point danger saying help, I'm being chased or… Is there… ?

JHM: Huh-uh.

H: Um, I'm not being, I'm not being critical. I'm just trying to, you know, answer questions for myself at this point, because I'm trying to piece things together, you know, a constructive timeline on this. Um, is there any type of evidence or any type of anything anybody is saying that has said that their last known, that their last known was with the driver? You see what I'm saying?

JHM: Yes. Yes, uh, yeah, it's kind of fishy that they were, that they would have been with him anyway, because Colt, him and Colt were known to be not friends. They, they were not at all friends. And so it's kind of odd that they were in the same vehicle together in the first place. But he has been, he, to mutual friends of ours he has, you know, said that he was with them.

H: Oh, okay, all right. All right. Um...

JHM: He will not, he will not come publicly say that. He will not say anything in front of the cops. He has been heard to say many, many comments about not wanting to go to jail and things of that nature.

H: Right, um...

JHM: But that is, I haven't heard him directly from his mouth, so it is hearsay.

H: Right.

JHM: So, but I, I do believe they were in the car with him.

H: Oh, oh, of course, of, course. Um, I was…

JHM: Yeah. But there's no actual physical evidence, besides what was, what they say was or wasn't in the car.

H: Right. Well, if they knew, you know, that Colt and Molly were in the car, and…

JHM: Yeah.

H: … there's enough, there's enough connections to say that that other person was in the vehicle too. See?

JHM: Yeah.

H: If, and, just, just using, um, common reasoning, if they were out in the woods after this, you know, there… I mean, if I got in trouble, you know, I've been in trouble before. If I was in trouble with my buddies, with my friends, and something happened, they wouldn't be, you know, trying to (unintelligible) somewhere. We'd all be together and be trying to find rides.

JHM: Yeah.

H: You know, especially in that kind of area...

JHM: Yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of little stuff. Um, like, she didn't pick up her last work check. A person that age, if they're running off, they would have picked up their check on the way out.

H: Yeah, they would.

JHM: She never did pick that up. Um, he hasn't called to check on his child, and he's been in trouble a few times and he has always called M. He has never failed to call his sister, uh, even if he was in some kind of trouble.

H: Right.

JHM: Especially if he was in some kind of trouble. Um, because she's never failed to help him out. So there's no reason for him to hide from her.

H: And there's… You know, you, because what we're doing right now, you know, I'm not trying to doubt y'all, you know, I'm not doubting y'all one bit. I'm just trying to establish that he is missing. He did not run off voluntarily. Something that night happened in that woods, and they were…

JHM: Yes.

H: … and they were trying to get away from this individual, and this individual knows their exact whereabouts at this very moment, and he's not saying anything.

JHM: Yes.

H: Um, has there been any type of evidence that he, that as of right now that he is okay, or that either one of them are okay? Is there been anything leading to that? You know, like, um, maybe a strange text message from either one of their phones or something on Facebook or some type of sighting? Is there anything that, you know, that people can grasp onto to say that they are okay or they're in some situation that they just can't get out of right now? Has there been anything?

JHM: No.

MHS: Uh, no, they actually, they actually reassigned Colt's phone number to somebody else because it was, it was a GoPhone, you know, so somebody else has his number now.

JHM: Yeah, we've been...

H: All right.

JHM: And now you reach a stranger because they have assigned his phone number to someone else's phone now.

MHS: Yes.

JHM: And that's long enough to have reassigned it.

Hmm, after reading this, I'm having some doubts that Colt and Molly took off. It looks like CN despised Colt. It does make one wonder why he was in the car with CN. Also, why did CN take his girlfriend's car? Didn't he have his own car? Was CN's girlfriend friendly with Molly or Colt? Could they have all been together for a while that evening? Perhaps CN was giving Molly and Colt a ride home, but became a jerk and decided to antagonize a cop instead, to steer up trouble? Maybe CN was trying to freak out Colt and Molly in the process? I can picture Colt telling CN to be careful as they drove by the cop and then CN does the opposite by doing a fast donut.

Just some thoughts, opinion and questions . .

 

[McSpy]

One of Colt's sisters says she spoke to someone who claims he did receive a phone call from Molly that morning and she didn't sound like she thought she was in danger. According to that person, she was looking for a ride but he was on his way to work, and she was like, okay, talk to you later.

We should keep in mind that one of Molly's cousins doesn't believe Molly made any calls other than to 911 that morning, but we don't know the reason for her doubt.

Just got clearance to transcribe this interview as well. Will probably do only the first part before the intermission because it was the most interesting, hearing the Haynes family's perspective on the case as well as some additional info.

Maybe the severity of the situation didn't hit her yet, so she wasn't acting anxious. Colt was on probation, so he probably didn't want to have any contact with police. Also, he was injured. So, he was under more pressure. In my opinion, I'm fairly confident they were partying that night, so there may have been at least alcohol or maybe marijuana. Both of these are off limits for Molly. This could get both CN and Colt in trouble, because she is a minor. A cop could easily tag on a charge. Even if they weren't partying, Colt's warrant may have been on his mind.

Just some thoughts

JMO

 

[McSpy]

I'm confused. Colt is on Namus as a missing person. Why would the sisters not know that?

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21192/0/

Maybe they put him on Namus, but are not actively looking for him. That broken ankle bugs me though. Supposedly, he is close to one of his sisters and would call her if he needed help. According to the transcripts, she hasn't heard from him. Makes me wonder if he knows her phone number. People don't need to "dial" a number any more. They put the numbers in their phone. Maybe he can't remember anyone's number at this point and his phone is dead (if he is hiding out of town somewhere).

Just some thoughts . .

 

[OkieGranny]

Transcript of Interview with Colt Haynes' Sisters, Part 5

Listen to the interview here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcolo...t-do-you-think

Key to the participants:

H: Host
MHS: Colt's older sister
JHM: Colt's oldest sister

(This is a slightly cleaned-up version, edited for readability. The raw version has been kept intact in a separate file.)

MHS: And that poor guy, I think I might've scared him because, boy, when he answered the phone I questioned him and questioned him.

H: I don't know nuthin'! I don't know nuthin'!

MHS: Yeah, he did, he was just…

J: I know...

MHS: Well, it was his work phone. His boss actually got on the phone and verified. She said do you want me to call AT&T ? I said, uh, yes, yes, I do. I said, you know, I don't want to be difficult but this is my little brother. I need to know that, you know, this is on the up and up. And she did, she was, she obliged, but that poor boy. I felt so bad.

H: I, I cannot believe, I only imagine that situation. Uh, have y'all been able to get his phone records to verify everybody that he's called that night?

MHS: I have not. Um, AT&T told me that I was unable because he was of age, and if his phone records needed to be gotten, it would have to be by law enforcement or him himself.

H: And, you know...

MHS: And I do know law enforcement got it.

H: … law enforcement really...

MHS: Yes, they do have it. They do have his phone records.

H: Oh, okay, all right. Um, I'm trying to steer this back to where, you know, my original intention at the beginning of the call here. I do apologize if I seem unprepared. I'm just trying to grasp everything, make everything flow together here. Now, um, Colt…

JHM: Well, if any, if anybody is interested in looking, he, he has a Facebook page called Justice for Colt!, and if you'll pull that up you can see pictures of him and Molly both on there.

H: Okay, okay, yeah, I…

JHM: If anyone is interested in looking and see, you know, if you happen to see someone. I'm still holding out hope that he's out there somewhere doing the wrong thing. I don't want him to be doing the wrong thing but, you know, only two options with this scenario.

H: You want him out there raising hell, causing trouble, and just…

JHM: I do.

H: … too embarrassed to call home.

JHM: I do.

H: And that, that's something, you know, I've been… What if they were runaways? What if they are, you know, just… Maybe something happened where they screwed up really big and they think they can't come home?

JHM: Just call somebody and tell us you're alive! Just call somebody, Colt!

H: And, and so you…

JHM: Anybody! And tell us you're alive!

H: You know, we've been trying to put their names out there, you know, and we've even spoken directly to you, so that way if they do somehow, you know, get ahold of it, we're trying to, everybody's trying to spread their names enough so if they try to Google search their own name they'll see, you know, exactly everything, saying, look, just let us know something. Um...

JHM: Yeah.

H: Um, now, after all this, you know, after everything of the events that night have happened, um, what has been the police… Uh, you always say the police really aren't working with y'all at all. They're not even at all concerned, you know, that he's missing and everything. Um, have y'all been able to put together any type of search team for this? Any type of group of people that are actively searching and actively investigating, trying to find Colt?

JHM: We did. We did do a search, um, on a lot of the surrounding properties. And we were allowed access to some and some of it we weren't allowed. Some people were, um, not interested in letting us search on their property, um, and there was other people that were, flat-out said there's no possible way you're coming on my land.

H: And would, would it safe to assume who those people were?

JHM: Yes.

H: Okay, that's what I was figuring. Um, as far as investigations, you know, the police really aren't taking him into consideration. Have y'all been able to get anybody to hold an actual investigation as to what happened to Colt himself? Did Colt, uh, was Colt working anywhere, um, or anything like that, or have any type of specific routine?

MHS: No, not that I know of.

H: Okay, so he didn't, he wasn't working or anything?

MHS: Huh-uh.

JHM: No, I don't, he wasn't, he wasn't working. He, uh, actually he hadn't been out of jail very long.

H: Oh. We've all been there. I ain't judgin'.

JHM: You know, and that goes back to hoping he's out there doing the wrong thing and running around playing. But, you know, and…

H: Knowing, knowing he's wanted and just doesn't want to go back to jail.

JHM: Well, they, they say, you know, they're looking for him for probation violations, and the only probation violations he has had has been after he went missing.

H: Oh, okay, I see, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. Um, now...

JHM: He's never, he's never missed any of those, he's never missed any of his time visiting with his son. He's never missed, you know, he's never went a whole week without calling M. He's never, you know, there a whole lot of little stuff to tell us he's just, not just, you know. He, he...

H: He's not just out running around.

JHM: He's in some serious, serious trouble of some kind. And I'm, I'm hoping it's the kind that he's still alive, but…

H: Now, um...

JHM: … it doesn't look good.

 

[McSpy]

Hello all------I am so late to the party but am catching up. I hope I can give some thoughts of value------

2Hope4---your post at 103---- I wondered that as well--these three are "not really friends". Who got them together--why were they together that night--had they ever gone out as a group before--what does the ex-gf/baby momma know?????

And THE CAR (sigh--reminds me of Robert Mayer case)--- to whom did it belong--when was it reported stolen/missing if it was at all? ANyone else think a "phone call" was made saying that "Hey if you happen to see it, tell so&so to bring it home please?"

I think no one knows how Colt and Molly ended up in that car with CN, except for CN or maybe CN's girlfriend. Supposedly CN didn't like Colt, because he had a baby with CN's exgirlfriend (not the girlfriend with the car). The girlfriend said it was stolen, but recanted her story. I'm not sure anyone knows why she recanted her story or why she reported it stolen in the first place.

 

[McSpy]

Transcript of Interview with Colt Haynes' Sisters, Part 5

Listen to the interview here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcolo...t-do-you-think

Key to the participants:

H: Host
MHS: Colt's older sister
JHM: Colt's oldest sister

(This is a slightly cleaned-up version, edited for readability. The raw version has been kept intact in a separate file.)

MHS: And that poor guy, I think I might've scared him because, boy, when he answered the phone I questioned him and questioned him.

H: I don't know nuthin'! I don't know nuthin'!

MHS: Yeah, he did, he was just…

J: I know...

MHS: Well, it was his work phone. His boss actually got on the phone and verified. She said do you want me to call AT&T ? I said, uh, yes, yes, I do. I said, you know, I don't want to be difficult but this is my little brother. I need to know that, you know, this is on the up and up. And she did, she was, she obliged, but that poor boy. I felt so bad.

H: I, I cannot believe, I only imagine that situation. Uh, have y'all been able to get his phone records to verify everybody that he's called that night?

MHS: I have not. Um, AT&T told me that I was unable because he was of age, and if his phone records needed to be gotten, it would have to be by law enforcement or him himself.

H: And, you know...

MHS: And I do know law enforcement got it.

H: … law enforcement really...

MHS: Yes, they do have it. They do have his phone records.

H: Oh, okay, all right. Um, I'm trying to steer this back to where, you know, my original intention at the beginning of the call here. I do apologize if I seem unprepared. I'm just trying to grasp everything, make everything flow together here. Now, um, Colt…

JHM: Well, if any, if anybody is interested in looking, he, he has a Facebook page called Justice for Colt!, and if you'll pull that up you can see pictures of him and Molly both on there.

H: Okay, okay, yeah, I…

JHM: If anyone is interested in looking and see, you know, if you happen to see someone. I'm still holding out hope that he's out there somewhere doing the wrong thing. I don't want him to be doing the wrong thing but, you know, only two options with this scenario.

H: You want him out there raising hell, causing trouble, and just…

JHM: I do.

H: … too embarrassed to call home.

JHM: I do.

H: And that, that's something, you know, I've been… What if they were runaways? What if they are, you know, just… Maybe something happened where they screwed up really big and they think they can't come home?

JHM: Just call somebody and tell us you're alive! Just call somebody, Colt!

H: And, and so you…

JHM: Anybody! And tell us you're alive!

H: You know, we've been trying to put their names out there, you know, and we've even spoken directly to you, so that way if they do somehow, you know, get ahold of it, we're trying to, everybody's trying to spread their names enough so if they try to Google search their own name they'll see, you know, exactly everything, saying, look, just let us know something. Um...

JHM: Yeah.

H: Um, now, after all this, you know, after everything of the events that night have happened, um, what has been the police… Uh, you always say the police really aren't working with y'all at all. They're not even at all concerned, you know, that he's missing and everything. Um, have y'all been able to put together any type of search team for this? Any type of group of people that are actively searching and actively investigating, trying to find Colt?

JHM: We did. We did do a search, um, on a lot of the surrounding properties. And we were allowed access to some and some of it we weren't allowed. Some people were, um, not interested in letting us search on their property, um, and there was other people that were, flat-out said there's no possible way you're coming on my land.

H: And would, would it safe to assume who those people were?

JHM: Yes.

H: Okay, that's what I was figuring. Um, as far as investigations, you know, the police really aren't taking him into consideration. Have y'all been able to get anybody to hold an actual investigation as to what happened to Colt himself? Did Colt, uh, was Colt working anywhere, um, or anything like that, or have any type of specific routine?

MHS: No, not that I know of.

H: Okay, so he didn't, he wasn't working or anything?

MHS: Huh-uh.

JHM: No, I don't, he wasn't, he wasn't working. He, uh, actually he hadn't been out of jail very long.

H: Oh. We've all been there. I ain't judgin'.

JHM: You know, and that goes back to hoping he's out there doing the wrong thing and running around playing. But, you know, and…

H: Knowing, knowing he's wanted and just doesn't want to go back to jail.

JHM: Well, they, they say, you know, they're looking for him for probation violations, and the only probation violations he has had has been after he went missing.

H: Oh, okay, I see, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. Um, now...

JHM: He's never, he's never missed any of those, he's never missed any of his time visiting with his son. He's never missed, you know, he's never went a whole week without calling M. He's never, you know, there a whole lot of little stuff to tell us he's just, not just, you know. He, he...

H: He's not just out running around.

JHM: He's in some serious, serious trouble of some kind. And I'm, I'm hoping it's the kind that he's still alive, but…

H: Now, um...

JHM: … it doesn't look good.

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This is interesting. Seems like he was doing the right thing by showing up for his probabtion appointments. Since he disappeared, there are warrants out for him, because he has missed appointments.

I hope he is hiding out, but I don't know how he is eating. I doubt he had much money on him. Plus, that broken ankle . .

 

[windstorm]

Maybe the severity of the situation didn't hit her yet, so she wasn't acting anxious. Colt was on probation, so he probably didn't want to have any contact with police. Also, he was injured. So, he was under more pressure. In my opinion, I'm fairly confident they were partying that night, so there may have been at least alcohol or maybe marijuana. Both of these are off limits for Molly. This could get both CN and Colt in trouble, because she is a minor. A cop could easily tag on a charge. Even if they weren't partying, Colt's warrant may have been on his mind.

Just some thoughts

JMO

If we go with the theory that Colt didn't want contact with police due to probation, then maybe he started an altercation with CN for doing the doughnut in front of LE and leading them on a high speed pursuit.

They apparently already didn't like each other, so that could have instigated a struggle. Maybe why the car wrecked.