OR OR - Pem Michelle Yates-Briggs, 15, Portland, 1970s

John/Jane Doe · Apr 1, 2024

Caring1 said:
Pem has been added to NamUs.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

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This is great news after a long time of Pem not being on some missing persons site.

jenni4hays · Apr 2, 2024

SimsGuy67 said:
Amazing news! Based on the NamUs description, it should be easy to compare her to Valencia Jane Doe as Pem has a crooked front tooth. Of course, DNA is the preferable route.

It also says Pem has a cleft chin. I didn't initially notice it, but Valencia Jane Doe's reconstruction seems to depict a vague cleft chin too. I may just be seeing things, and I'm not sure if you can tell that from a skull.

I noticed some inconsistencies in the NamUs profile though. In the description it says 1973, the date says 1979, the thread title says 1977, but I've also seen 1978. What year was Pem last seen?

ya I let the detective know there was that mistake regarding the 1973, she was last seen between 1978-1979. And yes! I was coming on this website to update you all that Pem is finally in NamUs!

victoriarobinson642 · Apr 2, 2024

jenni4hays said:
ya I let the detective know there was that mistake regarding the 1973, she was last seen between 1978-1979. And yes! I was coming on this website to update you all that Pem is finally in NamUs!

Very glad to see it!

jenni4hays · Apr 9, 2024

Two DNA samples have been taken from half siblings of Pem to be entered and compared to a Jane Doe we think might be her.

John/Jane Doe · Apr 9, 2024

jenni4hays said:
Two DNA samples have been taken from half siblings of Pem to be entered and compared to a Jane Doe we think might be her.

What good news! Could you pass the information on that Jane Doe here?

SimsGuy67 · Apr 9, 2024

John/Jane Doe said:
What good news! Could you pass the information on that Jane Doe here?

It's Valencia Jane Doe (UP4389), the case I've been researching since I joined WS.

CA - CA - Valencia, 2 WhtFems UP4388 & 4389, 17-35, in riverbed near I-5, Jan'80

The Doe Network: Hot Case 1458 1367UFCA NamUs UP Case 4388 The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Unidentified White Female * The victim was discovered on January 26, 1980 in Los Angeles County, California * Partial Remains Vital Statistics * Estimated...

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John/Jane Doe · Apr 10, 2024

Pem Michelle Yates-Briggs has been added to The Charley Project

Pem Michelle Yates-Briggs – The Charley Project

SimsGuy67 · Apr 18, 2024

Bumping for Pem. Hoping we get some answers about her and Valencia Jane Doe soon.

Ciriii57 · Apr 22, 2024

I'm praying that at least one of these girls gets her name back.

I just wondered, since Pem went to find her Dad, well did she find him? Was he ever spoken to?

SimsGuy67 · May 15, 2024

Pem leaving to find her dad is reminiscent of Gwenn Story (Sahara Sue). I'm really hoping that Pem's case has a happier outcome than Gwenn's if she doesn't turn out to be Valencia Jane Doe.

However, with the time it's been since Pem was last known to be alive, I'm hoping she's found, even if she isn't alive anymore.

jenni4hays · Jun 22, 2024

Ciriii57 said:
I'm praying that at least one of these girls gets her name back.

I just wondered, since Pem went to find her Dad, well did she find him? Was he ever spoken to?

no, she did not. Her mom was unsure who her dad was. And she has passed, so we will never know.

jenni4hays · Jun 22, 2024

We are still waiting for word back regarding DNA match or not....I will let you all know as soon as I hear something back.

Diavola · Jun 22, 2024

jenni4hays said:
no, she did not. Her mom was unsure who her dad was. And she has passed, so we will never know.

How was she gonna find her dad if she doesn't know who it is? Did she have someone in mind?

Dewana · 2024-07-23T03:38:41-0400

jenni4hays said:
no, she did not. Her mom was unsure who her dad was. And she has passed, so we will never know.

I was never told she went to find her dad. I have no idea where that story came from? Jenni4hays never met our mother.

Dewana · 2024-07-23T03:40:02-0400

Dewana said:
I was never told she went to find her dad. I have no idea where that story came from? Jenni4hays never met our mother.

So she had no one in mind. Does that even make sense she went to look for.....nobody...?ridiculous

Romulus · 2024-07-23T05:44:15-0400

But Pem Michelle Yates Briggs is excluded for this UID?

OR - OR - Union Co, Finley Creek Jane Doe, UnsFem 14-25, UP11902, preg, on wooded hillside, Aug'78

The Doe Network http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1258ufor.html Unidentified Female Date of Discovery: August 27, 1978 Location of Discovery: Finley Creek, Union County, Oregon Estimated Date of Death: Years prior State of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only Cause of...

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Aurora90 · 2024-07-23T06:01:57-0400

Romulus said:
But Pem Michelle Yates Briggs is excluded for this UID?

OR - OR - Union Co, Finley Creek Jane Doe, UnsFem 14-25, UP11902, preg, on wooded hillside, Aug'78

The Doe Network http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1258ufor.html Unidentified Female Date of Discovery: August 27, 1978 Location of Discovery: Finley Creek, Union County, Oregon Estimated Date of Death: Years prior State of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only Cause of...

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Finley Creek Doe is believed to be a specific young missing woman. I can't find her name now but when I find it I will post it here when I do.

SimsGuy67 · 2024-07-23T06:49:33-0400

Aurora90 said:
Finley Creek Doe is believed to be a specific young missing woman. I can't find her name now but when I find it I will post it here when I do.

Many people, including her daughter, think Finley Creek Jane Doe is Patricia "Patty" Otto.

ID - ID - Patricia Lee Otto, 24, Lewiston, 2 Sept 1976

Could not find her thread The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Patricia Lee Otto – The Charley Project Patricia Lee Otto Patricia, circa 1976; Age-progression to an unknown age by Wesley Neville Missing Since09/02/1976 Missing FromLewiston, Idaho...

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Patricia Lee Otto – The Charley Project

Aurora90 · 2024-07-23T07:08:38-0400

SimsGuy67 said:
Many people, including her daughter, think Finley Creek Jane Doe is Patricia "Patty" Otto.

ID - ID - Patricia Lee Otto, 24, Lewiston, 2 Sept 1976

Could not find her thread The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Patricia Lee Otto – The Charley Project Patricia Lee Otto Patricia, circa 1976; Age-progression to an unknown age by Wesley Neville Missing Since09/02/1976 Missing FromLewiston, Idaho...

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Patricia Lee Otto – The Charley Project

Thank you @SimsGuy67 for pulling up that info. I completely couldn't remember her name.

HmmMysterious · 2024-07-23T13:22:30-0400

Dewana said:
I was never told she went to find her dad. I have no idea where that story came from? Jenni4hays never met our mother.

That information is listed on missing person sites for your sister. They had to get that from someone

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Pem Michelle Yates-Briggs – The Charley Project

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