OR OR - Pem Michelle Yates-Briggs, 15, Portland, 1970s

[Melt71]

<sbm> her brother Denny did take a DNA test and the results are in ancestry <sbm>

Hopefully she started a new life and one day Denny will match against her in Ancestry.

However if Pem is deceased and unidentified, then police would not be able to find Denny to match against the deceased person. Ancestry doesn't allow law enforcement to use their DNA records, even to identify a deceased person. Others here will be able to advise how to get DNA into the right location.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Hopefully she started a new life and one day Denny will match against her in Ancestry.

However if Pem is deceased and unidentified, then police would not be able to find Denny to match against the deceased person. Ancestry doesn't allow law enforcement to use their DNA records, even to identify a deceased person. Others here will be able to advise how to get DNA into the right location.

Yes - you can download the DNA as .txt file from Ancestry and upload it directly into GEDMatch. I did it myself in hopes of getting a more detailed picture of my genetic makeup. It's fairly straightforward, only takes a day or so to upload.

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[summergirl1]

It would also be helpful to get her brother's DNA formally taken by law enforcement so it can be entered into Codis to be compared against any unidentified Jane Doe, unless they can just get it from GED Match and use it for that?

 

[Beekarina]

Good luck with Gedmatch! I use it for genealogy daily and it is a wonderful resource. Like many others, I have also opted in, in case I am related to anyone who may be missing. I hope the DNA test helps you finally generate some solid leads.

 

[jenni4hays]

1322UFCA

This is who I think may be Pem.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

1322UFCA

This is who I think may be Pem.

@SimsGuy67 Since I know that you follow this Jane Doe's case pretty closely.

 

[SimsGuy67]

@SimsGuy67 Since I know that you follow this Jane Doe's case pretty closely.

Thank you for letting me know about this! I'm hoping that we have finally located Pem and identified Jane Doe.

I do wonder though, if this turns out to be a match, who Pem was found with. Maybe a runaway? Only reasoning I can think of right now.

 

[Beekarina]

Thank you for letting me know about this! I'm hoping that we have finally located Pem and identified Jane Doe.

I do wonder though, if this turns out to be a match, who Pem was found with. Maybe a runaway? Only reasoning I can think of right now.

Sad about the DNA for the other two young women.

Good thoughts in hopefully getting some closure for Pem!

 

[SimsGuy67]

Sad about the DNA for the other two young women.

Good thoughts in hopefully getting some closure for Pem!

Maybe we could get a rough idea on who the other girl could be by learning Pem's final movements? At least we could know where the girl probably was last seen. Probably California, though.

 

[Caring1]

Pem has been added to NamUs.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[SimsGuy67]

Pem has been added to NamUs.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

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Amazing news! Based on the NamUs description, it should be easy to compare her to Valencia Jane Doe as Pem has a crooked front tooth. Of course, DNA is the preferable route.

It also says Pem has a cleft chin. I didn't initially notice it, but Valencia Jane Doe's reconstruction seems to depict a vague cleft chin too. I may just be seeing things, and I'm not sure if you can tell that from a skull.

I noticed some inconsistencies in the NamUs profile though. In the description it says 1973, the date says 1979, the thread title says 1977, but I've also seen 1978. What year was Pem last seen?

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Pem has been added to NamUs.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

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This is great news after a long time of Pem not being on some missing persons site.

 

[jenni4hays]

Two DNA samples have been taken from half siblings of Pem to be entered and compared to a Jane Doe we think might be her.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Two DNA samples have been taken from half siblings of Pem to be entered and compared to a Jane Doe we think might be her.

What good news! Could you pass the information on that Jane Doe here?

 

[SimsGuy67]

What good news! Could you pass the information on that Jane Doe here?

It's Valencia Jane Doe (UP4389), the case I've been researching since I joined WS.

CA - CA - Valencia, 2 WhtFems UP4388 & 4389, 17-35, in riverbed near I-5, Jan'80

The Doe Network: Hot Case 1458 1367UFCA NamUs UP Case 4388 The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) Unidentified White Female * The victim was discovered on January 26, 1980 in Los Angeles County, California * Partial Remains Vital Statistics * Estimated...

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[John/Jane Doe]

Pem Michelle Yates-Briggs has been added to The Charley Project

Pem Michelle Yates-Briggs – The Charley Project

 

[SimsGuy67]

Bumping for Pem. Hoping we get some answers about her and Valencia Jane Doe soon.

 

[Ciriii57]

I'm praying that at least one of these girls gets her name back.

I just wondered, since Pem went to find her Dad, well did she find him? Was he ever spoken to?

 

[SimsGuy67]

Pem leaving to find her dad is reminiscent of Gwenn Story (Sahara Sue). I'm really hoping that Pem's case has a happier outcome than Gwenn's if she doesn't turn out to be Valencia Jane Doe.

However, with the time it's been since Pem was last known to be alive, I'm hoping she's found, even if she isn't alive anymore.

 

[Romulus]

But Pem Michelle Yates Briggs is excluded for this UID?

OR - OR - Union Co, Finley Creek Jane Doe, UnsFem 14-25, UP11902, preg, on wooded hillside, Aug'78

The Doe Network http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1258ufor.html Unidentified Female Date of Discovery: August 27, 1978 Location of Discovery: Finley Creek, Union County, Oregon Estimated Date of Death: Years prior State of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only Cause of...

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