OR OR - Union Co, Finley Creek Jane Doe, UnsFem 14-25, UP11902, preg, on wooded hillside, Aug'78

[imstilla.grandma]

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Family of missing woman still seeking answers

The daughter of a missing Lewiston woman wants answers.

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[John/Jane Doe]

1258UFOR

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Suzanne Timms hopes the turnout on her mother's birthday, August 4, will be a good one.

"Our goal is community engagement to bring more information and leads that could help solve this case, in addition to celebrating her for the first time since 1976," she wrote on the *** page.

Her mother, Patricia Otto, vanished from their Lewiston home in 1976. Suzanne was only 3 years old at the time.

Since then, she and her late sister, have been digging into her case to try to locate her mother.

She has detailed her journey of discovery on her Facebook page Patty's Voice.

She strongly believes the remains of an unidentified woman found in Elgin, Oregon in 1990 belong to her mother, Patty.

Suzanne says donations from her mother's walk will be used for the event and the cost of DNA extraction on the Finley Creek Jane Doecremains.
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Thursday morning's $280 of their $1000 goal has been raised. A donation of $20 sponsors a sign to hold in memory of her mother, she said.

Patty Otto was 24 when she disappeared. Suzanne is organizing the 24-minute walk with 70 signs, as Patty would have been 70 years old this coming August 4.
Watch KLEW's special reports on Patty Otto's case.

Daughter of Lewiston woman missing since 1976 organizing walk for her mother's 70th birthd

Suzanne Timms hopes the turnout on her mother's birthday, August 4, will be a good one.

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Site where Finley Creek Jane Doe was found to be examined by OSP​

UNION COUNTY — A four-decade-old Union County mystery may be on the verge of being solved or taking another unforgettable twist.

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Site where Finley Creek Jane Doe was found to be examined by OSP​

A four-decade-old Union County mystery may be on the verge of being solved or taking another unforgettable twist.

The Oregon State Police are set, next month, to conduct an examination and possible excavations at a site near Finley Creek, 18 miles north of La Grande, where the remains of an unidentified woman were found in August 1978.

“We are planning on mid-August or late August,” said Sgt. Sean Belding, a member of OSP’s major crimes division.

Belding will be joined by Calvin Davis, director of the OSP’s crime lab in Pendleton, and Dr. Nici Vance, from the State Medical Examiner’s office, plus members of the Finley Creek Jane Doe Task Force.

Belding, Davis and Vance recently decided to conduct the examination and possible digs after learning of how a pair of cadaver dogs responded on Thursday, June 23, at the Finley Creek site. Each dog, trained to smell human bones and brought there by the task force, indicated they had found buried human bones at the same two places while operating separately.

Belding, who accompanied the task force on its June 23 visit, said he was impressed with the interest each dog showed in the two sites. The canines, one of which is a German shepherd, laid down at the same place, an indication they were positive human bones were underneath the location, said Melinda Jederberg of La Grande, a leader of the Finely Creek Jane Doe Task Force, which she founded in 2019.

This was the second time the cadaver dogs were brought to the Finley Creek site by the task force. They were also brought there in the summer of 2021, when they also indicated they detected human bones there.

The task force members have never dug at the Finley Creek site because it is a crime scene and thus it would be illegal to disrupt it.

Suzanne Timms of Walla Walla, Washinhton, who is assisting with the search as a volunteer, is elated that the OSP investigators will be examining the site because she is certain the Finley Creek Jane Doe is her mother, Patricia “Patty” Otto, of Lewiston, Idaho, who has been missing since Aug. 31, 1976.

“Oregon is giving resources toward the case. It gives me hope,” she said.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Great news! Best of luck to them.

 

[carbuff]

Ooooh! Fingers crossed!

 

[Romulus]

Possible Peggy Reed?

Peggy Reed

Peggy Ann Reed was a teenager who vanished on March 1, 1974. She may have been hitchhiking at the time. Light brown hair. Brown eyes. She occasionally wears round glasses with gold metal frames. She has a strawberry birthmark on the back of her neck above her hairline. Brown dress slacks. A navy...

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[HmmMysterious]

The NamUs file was modified yesterday, but it's still the same 6 exclusions.

 

[dotr]

Aug 26 2022

Cold case reopened in La Grande, Oregon 44 years later

Forensic scientists and detectives dug up three locations including the original burial site and two other areas nearby in hopes of potentially finding new evidence.

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''Last week Oregon State Police: Forensics Service Division, State Medical Examiner’s Office Forensic Anthropologist, State Police Major Crimes Detectives, and members of the Union County Search and Rescue team dug up three locations including the original burial site and two other areas nearby.
They shifted dirt and material through screens in hopes of potentially finding even the smallest bone fragments — or other evidence — to help identify this woman through DNA testing.

Credit: OREGON STATE POLICE
FINLEY CREEK JANE DOE SKETCH
The search and rescue team found more than 50 bones during the search but the state's forensic anthropologist found that none of them were human.
OSP and other agencies will continue with the search in hopes of finally identifying the Finley Creek Jane Doe and bringing closure to her family.
They’re hoping this new search will turn up evidence that could help identify the woman who's at the center of this 1978 cold case.
Officials ask anyone who may have information on this case to contact the OSP Dispatch at 1-800-442-0776 and reference the case number SP-7875-2103. ''

 

[imstilla.grandma]

On August 27, 1978, the body of a young female was found in a wooded hillside outside La Grande, Oregon, according to Oregon State Police.

Police say on August 16 and 17, 2022, Oregon State Police Forensics Service Division, State Medical Examiner’s Office Forensic Anthropologist, State Police Major Crimes Detectives, and members of the Union County Search and Rescue team conducted an operation on a rural property in Union County.

The operation, according to OSP, was in response to recent interest shown by cadaver dogs brought in by the Finley Creek Jane Doe Task Force involving the unidentified remains of the woman found in 1978.

Union County Search and Rescue conducted an intense grid search of approximately 3 acres around the original burial site and the recent locations of interest by the cadaver dogs.

Over fifty bones were located by the search and rescue team. The State Medical Examiner’s Forensic Anthropologist examined each of the bones and none of them were determined to be of human origin.

Forensic scientists and detectives conducted excavations at the two points of interest from the dogs. They also excavated the original burial site.

The three locations were examined thoroughly by sifting dirt and material through screens in an attempt to locate even the smallest of bone fragments or other evidence that could be of use in determining an identity through DNA testing. Unfortunately, nothing of evidentiary value was discovered during the operation.

Investigation continues into unidentified female case from 1978; Union County

On August 27, 1978, the body of a young female was found in a wooded hillside outside La Grande, Oregon, according to Oregon State Police.

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[theshadow45]

Finley Creek Jane Doe has been unidentified for 44 years today.

 

[Ski Killset]

Team investigating Oregon cold case searches for evidence in rural Union County

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[Susikatze]

On August 27, 1978, the body of a young female was found in a wooded hillside outside La Grande, Oregon, according to Oregon State Police.

Police say on August 16 and 17, 2022, Oregon State Police Forensics Service Division, State Medical Examiner’s Office Forensic Anthropologist, State Police Major Crimes Detectives, and members of the Union County Search and Rescue team conducted an operation on a rural property in Union County.

The operation, according to OSP, was in response to recent interest shown by cadaver dogs brought in by the Finley Creek Jane Doe Task Force involving the unidentified remains of the woman found in 1978.

Union County Search and Rescue conducted an intense grid search of approximately 3 acres around the original burial site and the recent locations of interest by the cadaver dogs.

Over fifty bones were located by the search and rescue team. The State Medical Examiner’s Forensic Anthropologist examined each of the bones and none of them were determined to be of human origin.

Forensic scientists and detectives conducted excavations at the two points of interest from the dogs. They also excavated the original burial site.

The three locations were examined thoroughly by sifting dirt and material through screens in an attempt to locate even the smallest of bone fragments or other evidence that could be of use in determining an identity through DNA testing. Unfortunately, nothing of evidentiary value was discovered during the operation.

Investigation continues into unidentified female case from 1978; Union County

On August 27, 1978, the body of a young female was found in a wooded hillside outside La Grande, Oregon, according to Oregon State Police.

centraloregondaily.com

Very sad. Some acidic soil conditions can make bone fragments dissolve quickly.

Now lets hope for advances in DNA extraction from the cremains.
I know the issue with cremains, the heat makes them pretty sterile and destroys DNA and I know that several LE and forensic agencies are at this case already but just out of curiosity, would Othram be worth contacting? They are very successful with extracting DNA from minute samples.
But I dont know if it would be possible with cremains, at least at this present time.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Suzanne Timms was heartbroken when she found out Oregon State Police discovered zero additional evidence from their excavation of a gravesite in mid-August, belonging to an unidentified woman found in 1978. Timms desperately needs more evidence to prove that this woman, known as the “Finley Creek Jane Doe,” is her mother – who went missing from Lewiston on Aug. 31, 1976.

There are too many similarities between Doe and Timms’ missing mother, Patricia ‘Patty’ Lee Otto, Timms said. She has been fighting tirelessly for answers since she was 18 – just last year, she came across a composite image of a Jane Doe on a Facebook page that looked exactly like her mom. Timms discovered the photo was an artist rendering of a deceased woman that matched her mother’s description almost exactly.

Not only that, but Timms’ father-in-law and her grandfather-in-law were the hunters that first discovered the remains 44 years ago. She had no idea she married into that family until she began researching — and she believes this was her mother’s way of guiding her to the right answers.

Just last week, Timms brought her findings to the Lewiston Police Department. Timms said they were in shock with how much research she had done into the two cases.

To her disappointment, however, the case into the Finley Creek Jane Doe was closed in 1990 “due to age” according to a police report. The unidentified woman was cremated, with no additional evidence collected from the skeletal remains.

As of now, Timms has nothing from the woman to compare Otto’s DNA to.

'She's calling me to bring her home': No evidence found to connect remains with Idaho cold case of missing woman

Patty Lee Otto went missing from Lewiston in 1976. Two years later, a woman's remains were found in Oregon. Police found no additional evidence to connect the cases.

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[Triss]

I said it before and I'll say it again: cremating unidentified remains is such a bad idea

 

[HmmMysterious]

@PattysVoice I'm confused about the dental information between your mom and FCJD. Dr. Nici Vance said that Patty had her 3rd molars (wisdom teeth) removed. FCJD still had 3 of 4 present. Dr. Vance also said that Patty had two amalgam fillings on Teeth 18, 19. FCJD also had 2 amalgam fillings but they were on Teeth 30, 31.

I saw new information that conflicts with Dr. Vance's opinion. Now it's believed both women had silver fillings on their teeth 30, 31. Patty had all 4 wisdom teeth in her last dental chart, but had trouble with the right upper wisdom tooth. That tooth is missing on FCJD. Was Dr. Vance's comparison wrong?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Pregnant woman’s remains found in Oregon woods still a mystery 44 years later, police say

The woman was in the third trimester of her pregnancy, according to officials.

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[HmmMysterious]

Modified again today, Same 6 exclusions. The Jane Doe is estimated to have died between 1970 and 1975.