Deceased/Not Found PA - King Hill, 2, stepfather said King was with babysitter, Philadelphia, 7 Jul 2020 *arrest*

[MsBetsy]

When is the next court hearing?

I think the preliminary hearing is August 5th at 9:00 am. The docket sheets were posted on page 34 or 35.

 

[Beans]

Bi-Polar is the modern name for Manic Depressive.

i don’t doubt there’s probably a mental health issue here, possibly a psychiatric situation, but fwiw bipolar is not a condition attached to murder/homicide outcomes. Untreated or undiagnosed bipolar results in harm to the person experiencing or managing the condition, not third parties.

what we can see publicly is inappropriately hypersexualised behaviour, delusion, poor recognition of boundaries....and huge immaturity.

 

[Clair Louise]

i don’t doubt there’s probably a mental health issue here, possibly a psychiatric situation, but fwiw bipolar is not a condition attached to murder/homicide outcomes. Untreated or undiagnosed bipolar results in harm to the person experiencing or managing the condition, not third parties.

what we can see publicly is inappropriately hypersexualised behaviour, delusion, poor recognition of boundaries....and huge immaturity.

BBM. I did not suggest it was. I just correct the 'manic depressive' term.

 

[Knox]

Good we have posters ^^^^^^ who can help explain some of the things we know are weird, but lack the expertise to dissect in a meaningful way.
Hopefully Beans will talk more about TP's behaviors and a possible hypothetical explanation for them.

 

[MsBetsy]

i don’t doubt there’s probably a mental health issue here, possibly a psychiatric situation, but fwiw bipolar is not a condition attached to murder/homicide outcomes. Untreated or undiagnosed bipolar results in harm to the person experiencing or managing the condition, not third parties.

what we can see publicly is inappropriately hypersexualised behaviour, delusion, poor recognition of boundaries....and huge immaturity.

I also see narcissistic and attention seeking behavior. She seems to be appealing to a certain type of audience in most of the videos I've seen.

 

[claudicici]

She reminds me of Casey Anthony a lot....I hope this will have a different outcome....

 

[Hereshecomes75]

It would not stun me to learn that TP had an accomplice at some point regarding KH. She strikes me, with all the drama and self-aggrandizement, as if she doesn’t have the practical skills needed to handle a situation. Maybe when it would come to saving her butt, she could manage on her own. But she seems like someone who’d try to get help.

 

[mickey2942]

I also see narcissistic and attention seeking behavior. She seems to be appealing to a certain type of audience in most of the videos I've seen.

Classic Borderline Personality Disorder. Children are only interesting as part of their attention seeking, ie, being pregnant. After birth, the child is irrelevant.

 

[LovesPeace2]

Ughhh I was hoping they would of found this lil man by now.

 

[LadyL]

so if Mom never met the babysitter, who paid her?
did stepdad pay her to babysit??

 

[Hereshecomes75]

so if Mom never met the babysitter, who paid her?
did stepdad pay her to babysit??

I was wondering the same thing. Was she actually paid in money, or was there some kind of barter?

 

[Jo in Calif]

I was wondering the same thing. Was she actually paid in money, or was there some kind of barter?

It’s been said he was her boxing coach, maybe free lessons in exchange for baby sitting? IMO

 

[tnith]

Classic Borderline Personality Disorder. Children are only interesting as part of their attention seeking, ie, being pregnant. After birth, the child is irrelevant.

It’s been said he was her boxing coach, maybe free lessons in exchange for baby sitting? IMO

If we understand this situation clearly as the mother has conceeded, KH was primarily with stepfather (and sibling). However the stepfather stood by accounts that KH has been 'cared for' by the babysitter for nigh his whole life. Something that may not have only been obscured from maternal family but also their friends and community at large as 2 years is plenty long enough for world to get about where your child has been seen.

TP was in no legal way obligated to this little boy, and in fact there are times in her offkey posts and videos she alludes to having some kind of connection with him. In one instead of singing the lyrics to a song the changes it to 'because I am, your mom'. We never see KH in these posts directly; again who would have made the connection to who his parents were, what would have been done, and what would that have cost TP?

With all of her endeavors there are short lived posts regarding a hustle, but nothing on the matter of fighting, martial arts, boxing or the like. Being female with such a skill tends to be a point of pride among models and enterprising personas.
I propose the possibility that in exchange for extended live in childcare, some agreements may have been made toward falsifying documents or forwarding CS to the babysitting household which would embolden TP's sense that indeed KH did 'belong' to her, perhaps even her alone.

 

[PezCandy]

So mom didn’t have as much custody as the stepfather? I’m so confused about the family dynamic. Did stepfather have any legal right to child? I’m just trying to figure out the family dynamics and I’m getting lost in the process

 

[Knox]

I've learned through unapproved sources that MR actually had custody of King for over a year and a half and the grandma has custody of Kings sister Are custody records public? Is there a way to find out if this is true?

The bigger question is why did others have custody?

 

[MsBetsy]

I've learned through unapproved sources that MR actually had custody of King for over a year and a half and the grandma has custody of Kings sister Are custody records public? Is there a way to find out if this is true?

I thought in the police report LE indicated there was no record of any legal custody. I would think any documents like that would be easy for them to find. As far as I can tell Amber and the biological father would be the only ones who had legal custody.

I'm not sure what you mean by unapproved sources, but the only way to know for sure is if there is a legal document stating who has custody. If anyone else besides the birth parents had custody I would think LE would have known from the beginning.

King may have been in the custody of the stepfather and babysitter for a long period of time, but that doesn't mean he actually filed for and was given legal custody. All he would need is permission from the mother. Imo

 

[Acorunadepor]

i don’t doubt there’s probably a mental health issue here, possibly a psychiatric situation, but fwiw bipolar is not a condition attached to murder/homicide outcomes. Untreated or undiagnosed bipolar results in harm to the person experiencing or managing the condition, not third parties.

what we can see publicly is inappropriately hypersexualised behaviour, delusion, poor recognition of boundaries....and huge immaturity.

There are millions of people whom behave in that manner. That's one thing social media has made clear about the world we live in.

Something must have transpired in the years she took care of him. Its either a sudden psychosis (which could have occurred before) or something that took a hold of her during those years she took care of him. Which had built up and bursted out resulting in his murder. Also suggesting a disorder of any kind being there previous to her being his babysitter.

Any escalation of this kind is horrible. And her lying made it even worse.

 

[Leader6518]

Agree. The additional stuff I am noting comes from neither TP family nor AH family. Acknowledge that Doesn’t mean it’s accurate.

What LE did confirm in the 2nd press conference was that babysitter had cared for King for approximately two years AND that bio mom had no knowledge of the babysitter. That’s confirmed.

ETA: 2:20 mark of the 2nd press conference (July 13) “at least the last two years” and then about 4:05 LE asked so you’re saying mom doesn’t know babysitter despite her being caregiver the last two years? LE: Yes, that’s correct.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=656561371604090

It may come out that the sitter had the baby primarily for 2 years. However, I looked at it as the sitter cared for the baby for a 2-year timeframe off and on. I sent my grandbaby to a sitter for 3 years, but I dropped her off and picked her up everyday. Who would just take a child for 2 years without compensation? Given the situation, I don't believe it was out of love and concern for little King.

ETA: Fixed typo

 

[Leader6518]

I wished I could share the rather long live Facebook video that has now been deleted It shows TP interacting with King and I know I've mentioned it a lot but she comes across as very motherly towards King. Almost obsessive. She does not talk about anything but King. That's why I kept hoping she was hiding him somewhere. There are so many rumors she could not have children and tried to keep someone's child before. It makes me wonder about the charge about interfering with custody of "children" not a singular child.....then I thought it must have been accidental but the evidence seems to point to something far more sinister. It seems like there was seriously something very mentally off with TP and I'm afraid to find out the details...I do believe it was obsessive and a matter of "if I can't have him no one will"
I don't think this is the unfortunately "usual" case where a child was neglected and abused and then just disposed off,sad to say we see it here all the time.
I do believe what we heard from mostly unapproved sources that stepdad thought AH was unfit as a mother and he stepped up to take care of him. She knew he worked but it seems like she simply didn't check who was taking care of King most of the time. I don't think stepdad kept TP secret .I don't understand for the life of me why he kept his biological child in AH care if he felt that way about her, there are so many things in this case I do not understand

In my experience, what you see on social media about relationships/children/etc, are often not true. It is what a person wants others to believe of a less than stellar situation. Mommies posting loving messages about kids and hubby and all the while they are resentful, neglectful, and sometimes being abused by the husband they "adore".

 

[Leader6518]

No idea how he obtained them but agree... a couple points:

• just two pages of the police report were posted and we can tell that what we see is not complete. Moo: there were clearly further interviews
• the conclusions and statements are a snapshot in time and it is possible those changed.
  
  My opinion only (speculation follows):

In a case like this where dates and times are so critical, I find it hard to believe there were LE errors.

My guess is that sometime after stepfather updated his statement on timeline and before the July 9th press conference where they announced babysitter last seen date/time, babysitter Updated her timeline as well.

I find it quite interesting that babysitter apparently went to the police first.
—- If a murderer was going to do that, I would think they would have prepared a story that was not so easily refuted and contradicted by phone data and witness testimony.
—- I also can’t help but wonder how long it would have taken stepdad or mom to file a police report if babysitter hadn’t initiated police involvement.

Unfortunately, LE is human just like us. I've seen many warrants, etc. from LE with typos. I don't get hung up on that stuff because it happens. As they go along and add info (getting additional warrants, etc., it usually gets corrected.