Just a thought, but maybe one boy was actually hit by the car and the other boy injured in some other fashion because he was a witness?
complete speculation, imo.
PA PA - Shawn Baur, 15, & Scott Fosnaught, 15, Butler County, 17 July 2002
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complete speculation, imo.
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That could be a real possibility as well, I think the boys knew the person responsible for their death that would be a big motivator for not leaving any witnesses. I know some have speculated that maybe the person was intoxicated and it was an accidental hit and run but I'm not sure that a hit and run would get out of the car to check on either of the boys or do more harm to them most likely they would have just drove off and never looked back. These are all just my opinions though.
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New article. The reward is up to $10,000 now. I hope someone comes forward with info. Cold Case: Was it a hit-and-run or something more sinister?
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Certainly possible, especially given that the most recent article says:
Fosnaught’s injuries were consistent with being hit by a vehicle. Bauer had an injury to the top of his head.
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Cold Case: Was it a hit-and-run or something more sinister?
February 18, 2021 rbbm.
''Fosnaught’s injuries were consistent with being hit by a vehicle. Bauer had an injury to the top of his head.
Rausch believes it was made to look like a hit-and-run.
“I believe that it was no accident. I believe the boys got somebody angry, maybe, and it was a plan for them to leave that house. And it was setup. I had people look at his autopsy report, and they all say it’s consistent with a car but my gut feeling I think he was beaten and ran over. I mean, I can’t get rid of that feeling again. I mean it’s in my head,” said Rausch.
No skid marks or car parts were found.''
''Rausch said her son went to a party that July night at an abandoned farmhouse and hung out with friends. He ended up at a friend’s house on Cashdollar Road, near Evans City. But according to another friend, early the next morning, Fosnaught and Bauer decided to leave the house and walk to their homes about a mile away.''
''An autopsy revealed the cause of death as blunt force trauma for both teens. While the death certificates do not list a manner of death, police told Earle they are treating it as a double homicide.
If you have any information on the case, you can contact the Butler State Police Barracks at (724) 284-8100.''
February 18, 2021 rbbm.
''Fosnaught’s injuries were consistent with being hit by a vehicle. Bauer had an injury to the top of his head.
Rausch believes it was made to look like a hit-and-run.
“I believe that it was no accident. I believe the boys got somebody angry, maybe, and it was a plan for them to leave that house. And it was setup. I had people look at his autopsy report, and they all say it’s consistent with a car but my gut feeling I think he was beaten and ran over. I mean, I can’t get rid of that feeling again. I mean it’s in my head,” said Rausch.
No skid marks or car parts were found.''
''Rausch said her son went to a party that July night at an abandoned farmhouse and hung out with friends. He ended up at a friend’s house on Cashdollar Road, near Evans City. But according to another friend, early the next morning, Fosnaught and Bauer decided to leave the house and walk to their homes about a mile away.''
''An autopsy revealed the cause of death as blunt force trauma for both teens. While the death certificates do not list a manner of death, police told Earle they are treating it as a double homicide.
If you have any information on the case, you can contact the Butler State Police Barracks at (724) 284-8100.''
I've had a lot of time to think about this case and there are a lot of questions that I've come up with that may be able to be answered now with todays forensic technology, I wish I knew where to ask them, I'm sure not all of the questions that I have are answerable or if they are even logical, but I think with the advances in forensic science that there may be answers hidden in plain sight, I don't know maybe none of it makes any sense, but I live in the area where this crime occurred and I have an interest in wanting this crime to be solved, and if maybe someone out there reads the questions I have may help provide new evidence I want to help.
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I’m so sorry. It must be horrible on the families. Every year I see this on our local news. Never knew any of the people but my heart hurts for them
I have a huge list of questions that I would like to ask the people investigating this case or have investigated this case, because there are a lot of factors that I feel given the newest developments in forensic sciences maybe there are clues that are present that were not even considered back when this happened. I wanna know what agency I need to direct these questions to, I am obviously not a scientist or professional but I feel like if I can find someone to look at the list of questions I have and can tell whether or not these questions could yield new evidence then its worth a shot. If anyone knows where in PA I can send this list of questions to, let me know.
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And now it's been 20 years… Sad that nothing ever happened.
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I recently had the same thought.
My initial thoughts.
Maybe the boy with the obvious auto related injuries was hit first and intentionally. The second boy, maybe not knowing / realizing that the act was intentional, is checking on his friend and the car turns around and hits the second as he is stooped over. A truck etc. with a sturdy brush guard could have hit the boys and left little to no damage possibly. I wonder if any suspects have a vehicle equipped with this?
Or it could have been that one boy was further off the road and tying his shoe or something.
Maybe the boy with the obvious auto related injuries was hit first and intentionally. The second boy, maybe not knowing / realizing that the act was intentional, is checking on his friend and the car turns around and hits the second as he is stooped over. A truck etc. with a sturdy brush guard could have hit the boys and left little to no damage possibly. I wonder if any suspects have a vehicle equipped with this?
Or it could have been that one boy was further off the road and tying his shoe or something.
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My thoughts about that, is that the one boy whos injuries were consistent with being hit by a car was, obviously hit by a car, but my thoughts are that once the other boy saw his buddy get mowed down by a car, he took off running and then the car gave chase and the passenger in the vehicle leaned out the window and hit him in the head with a baseball bat or something similar, because his injuries were mainly blunt force trauma to the head without having any injuries that were consistent with being hit by a car.
To follow up on my reply, the boy that was hit by the car, I would like to know specifically what areas of his body were injured, I believe that could potentially be used in some way to determine the height of the vehicle that struck him, also I find it a little curious that they didn't find any paint or any type of evidence from the vehicle on his body. I mean if there was a paint fleck, couldn't it be analyzed and find out what car company used that type of paint. I don't know, maybe that's outlandish, but there are new forensic methods that may be able to make a break through.
So, Just gauging interest, but if I were to post my list of questions on here, would anyone want to read it? Would anyone know where to send them where they might get to the right people? I know I asked before. I really would like to get a conversation started about this and maybe end up getting somewhere new with it.