That is a sad, sad truth, which is precisely why these videos need to be shown.narlacat said:For every kitty, there's a million people that think just like her, and that scares me.
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That is a sad, sad truth, which is precisely why these videos need to be shown.narlacat said:For every kitty, there's a million people that think just like her, and that scares me.
Along with judgement and hatred comes hypocrisy.IrishMist said:So... Your opinions are actions.
Yes, it makes me really sad as well as scared.Dalilah said:That is a sad, sad truth, which is precisely why these videos need to be shown.
Just trying to reconcile this post with:Kitty5001 said:So... Your opinions are actions.
When your actions cause me to react or respond then YES they are. Right now as it relates to this topic they are just opinions.
kitty5001 said:What part of my beliefs would possibly be immoral-my opinions are not actions. Your actions are not opinions. there lies the difference.
Please don't believe you have the market cornered on moral values.Kitty5001 said:That is a sad, sad truth, which is precisely why these videos need to be shown.
Yes, it makes me really sad.
I know, having some moral values makes me want to cry too.
lol - I was referring to a homosexual couple showing affection to each other in front of your children (e.g holding hands). Not surprising that you would think I meant something different.Kitty5001 said:lol - right. But no judgment or intolerance. Because - GASP - what if those deviant homosexuals start performing unnatural acts in front of your children.
then you'd be a child molester wouldn't ya?
Eve - just to say - I would never assume such a thing.eve said:The funny thing is, every time someone has made a revelation to me about their sexual preference, I already knew, and I felt so terrible that they even worried about my reaction! My one friend used to joke that I "couldn't be a Republican" (we always argued politics). (Kinda like kitty saying an atheist can't be a Republican). HUH?
My ex had a little trouble dealing with his brother coming out and how it would affect our kids and I just knew everything would be fine and it has been. He's the one I miss after the divorce (my bil), in fact.
I guess once you experience a good friend or family member being gay, all the stereotypes and worries go out the window.
Now if people would just stop assuming that I'm an anti-Gay intolerant redneck bigot because I am a Republican.
Oh well, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Eve
You took the words right out of my mouth Dalilah.Dalilah said:I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting a troll vibe from Ms. Kitty. It appears she's simply attempting to ruffle feathers with her inane, ignorant comments. She's simply not worth responding to, IMO.
As with any bigotry, the root cause is ignorance and fear, IMO. Once you put a face to it, you are no longer ignorant or fearful of it. You can realize that people are just that- people.eve said:The funny thing is, every time someone has made a revelation to me about their sexual preference, I already knew, and I felt so terrible that they even worried about my reaction! My one friend used to joke that I "couldn't be a Republican" (we always argued politics). (Kinda like kitty saying an atheist can't be a Republican). HUH?
My ex had a little trouble dealing with his brother coming out and how it would affect our kids and I just knew everything would be fine and it has been. He's the one I miss after the divorce (my bil), in fact.
I guess once you experience a good friend or family member being gay, all the stereotypes and worries go out the window.
Now if people would just stop assuming that I'm an anti-Gay intolerant redneck bigot because I am a Republican.
Oh well, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Eve
You may be right. Though she could be legit. There's a fine line between the two in a case like this. IMO.Dalilah said:I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting a troll vibe from Ms. Kitty. It appears she's simply attempting to ruffle feathers with her inane, ignorant comments. She's simply not worth responding to, IMO.
Kitty5001 said:So you would be ok with your son playing at Johnny's house, with Johnny's two dads there?
Nope- my son doesn't need to be exposed to that in order to he Johnny's friend. Johnny is welcome at my house though -anytime....
Linda7NJ said:The way I see it, the school must do it because many of the parents don't. It has nothing to do with religion. If anything that was to be discussed was against your personal morals fine. Have something against homosexuals, good for you...don't be one. I am sick of people belittling other people for what they may do behind closed doors in their own houses. No one was explaining the intricacies of homosexual sex to these 3rd graders. They were simply explaining that families come in many forms. You and everyone else needs to respect that even if you don't share in the belief that it's ok.
I very recently had a disturbing interaction with a neighbor & mother of one of my son's friends. The boys were wrestling around while we were talking when her son called mine a "*advertiser censored*" my son returned the comment. I spoke up and said if you don't know what a word means you shouldn't use it. Knowing my son had absolutely no idea what it meant, I was comfortable with leaving it at that.
Then my neighbor, being the "good" Christian woman that she, is proceeded to tell them that's what you call those freaks. They will all burn in hell. Blah Blah Blah....I was shocked and stunned. I had to loudly interrupt her and inform her that not everyone was that hateful and small minded or shared her opinions. I cautioned her not to talk like that in front of my son. I don't care what she tells hers. That's her business. But at least her son should have the opportunity to hear a rational film explaining that yes it happens and they are no less because of it.
Due to her inappropriate comments in front of my son I was forced to have a conversation with him not only explaining that families come in different forms, but that some people simply can't handle that. They don't have respect for others who may be different than themselves. I also explained just how dangerous that way of thinking is.
I had to be sure and elaborate fully as our familiy also looks different. I wouldn't want him to EVER feel less because of it.
If children aren't being beaten, abused or neglected and are simply being loved by "unconventional" parents they have EVERY right to be proud of their family.
Melisinde said:Aww, Nova. I'm really sorry! I didn't mean it that way and I'm sorry I offended you. I guess basically what I meant was that if another person's choice does not directly affect me, I shouldn't worry about it.
Kitty5001 said:Not really. I promise you I find your beliefs just as immoral as you find my actions.
But I don't feel a need to hide you from children, to pretend you don't exist.
What part of my beliefs would possibly be immoral-my opinions are not actions. Your actions are not opinions. there lies the difference.