Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #19

[Bobarino]

Not much, but here's another:

Translated: Joran van der Sloot was wearing a black polo long sleeve hooded beige trousers at the time of his arrest this morning in Chile. According to the images broadcast by Channel 13 in the country, the alleged murderer of Stephany Flores also looked very short hair, as shown in photos circulated on the Internet. The young Dutchman, who has a history of crime in Aruba, Thailand, offered no resistance when captured, according to police source told to Emol. Joran van der Sloot was arrested when he went to board a taxi, he had rented, due to Viña del Mar. At this time of day, it remains on the premises of the Department of Immigration Police Investigations Based in Santiago Chile.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489302/vea-como-fue-captura-holandes-joran-van-der-sloot-chile

If true, this does imply, that for whatever reason, he picked Vina del Mar to go to--presumably as part of his final escape plan? And that seems to have changed in later reports to Valparaiso.

 

[hollyblue]

Thank you.

Finally some details!!

"Joran van der Sloot was arrested when he went to board a taxi, he had rented, due to Viña del Mar. At this time of day, it remains on the premises of the Department of Immigration Police Investigations Based in Santiago Chile."

I guess this is a "robot translation"?

But what does it imply, if anything? Joran called a cab, and the call was intercepted by police, interpol, FBI, someone else?? And they went and "met" him when he went to board the cab?

Does the above indicated they intercepted his call to the cab? Was he stupid enough to use his cell phone???

Maybe didn't have Chilean coins or such?

Not sure if the timeline in the no discussions thread would be of any help, but you could try. The only other thing I remember hearing/reading about was the taxi cab driver had a relative in the police dept that JVS could turn himself into---he said he wanted to. One story was he turned himself in and they turned him away, saying to go to another police dept. Seems every little detail in this case has 4, 5 or more versions; and of course then we have the Peruvian, the Netherlands and the US media to try to remember where we read/saw it. Nough to drive you goofy.

 

[FLNY]

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Thanks again. And to everyone else who has posted links!

I was wondering if there is a discrepancy?


From here:
http://www.thepulse.cl/2010/06/03/fleeing-dutchman-arrested-near-santiago/
"Flores was arrested in Curacaví by the PDI (Policía de Investigaciones de Chile It is believed that he was making his way to Viña del Mar as he was traveling on Route 68."

From here:
http://abcnews.go.com/International...oran-van-der-sloot-arrested/story?id=10817535
"Chilean media reports that van der Sloot was captured by police while travelling in a taxi on the highway between Santiago and Valparaiso "

So one piece involves Vina del Mar, and the other Valparaiso. But those seem to be in the same area according to Wiki. But then the one piece cites Curacavi where he was allegedly nabbed, and this may be a discrepancy (or not) and that is said to be in the Santiago district. But I guess they could have nabbed him just out of Santiago and not near the final destiantion--whatever that was.

But I sure wish they had more details like--"police in a car riding alongside his taxi recognized him and pulled it over" or such. It wasn;t a any kind of checkpoint. And look a thow far this region is from the Peruvian border! If he had no money left--how did he pay for such a long ride?

They apprehended him in Curacavi, which on a map of Chile, appears to be about half way between Santiago and Vina del Mar.

 

[Bobarino]

no one there sets out to trap anyone for kicks.
I am from Chile and can assure you they don't go after foreigners to destroy them or put them in Peruvian jails.

No where did I say any of that!

 

[hollyblue]

If true, this does imply, that for whatever reason, he picked Vina del Mar to go to--presumably as part of his final escape plan? And that seems to have changed in later reports to Valparaiso.

Apparently Vina del Mar had a poker tournament the week prior (?) and it was cancelled; but this seaside resort is known for gambling....I read..anyway.

 

[Bobarino]

Not sure if the timeline in the no discussions thread would be of any help, but you could try. The only other thing I remember hearing/reading about was the taxi cab driver had a relative in the police dept that JVS could turn himself into---he said he wanted to. One story was he turned himself in and they turned him away, saying to go to another police dept. Seems every little detail in this case has 4, 5 or more versions; and of course then we have the Peruvian, the Netherlands and the US media to try to remember where we read/saw it. Nough to drive you goofy.

Thanks but I thought the above is just part of the lies from Joran about turning himself in, that are totally lies.

 

[Bobarino]

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They apprehended him in Curacavi, which on a map of Chile, appears to be about half way between Santiago and Vina del Mar.

OK. You have found better maps than I did!
What's the distance between Santiago and Vina Del Mar?

 

[Bobarino]

Apparently Vina del Mar had a poker tournament the week prior (?) and it was cancelled; but this seaside resort is known for gambling....I read..anyway.

Thanks.
But again as I noted, he supposedly gave away all money had to the drivers, even his watch. So what's he gonna gamble with?
And would he be gambling publicly then? I would think escape to Arruba, woul be the ony thing on his mind at that time.

 

[mlefey]

No where did I say any of that!

Not directly, but I did see the movie missing.
I do understand your concerns but that is not applicable to this case and Missing is a Movie that talks and brings forth a part of Chile political past.
It does not apply in this case at all.
Vina Del Mar is a resort beach town that has a casino , is located about 20 minutes away from Valparaiso. Valparaiso is mayor port with ships arriving and leaving daily.
Could he had been trying to get to Valparaiso so he could leave South America by ship?

 

[Cottages]

However, since she stated that he is/may be bi-polar.....

That's a good one. AVS probably had psych docs ROTF with that one. Bi-polars don't go into psych wards, they take meds.

 

[Bobarino]

I only mentioned the movie Missing because you brought it up as an example of Chilean actions and behaviors. I by myself would have never thought of it. Sorry if it upset you I answered about that, it was only my intention to clarify the differences between the movie and life in Chile.
I would never pretend to dictate to you or anyone else. i apologize if you feel I did, and assure you again, i just wanted to point the difference of the Chilean reality.

Thank you, and I am sorry too if I misinterpreted what you said.

I have no doubt that the Chilean people are wonderful, and had suffered immensely with that dictatorship. I am American and feel bad that my country was involved in bringing that torturing dictatorship to power.

I was trying to imply that perhaps Vina del Mar is still active in some ways. As America often doesn't go away from a place they have been involved in--think Guantanamo...

But regarding making his way out via ship. I thought of that.

But Chile looks looks like one long, thin country.

Coming from Peru--he couldn't have found a closer place (from where he entered) to sail from?!

 

[FLNY]

OK. You have found better maps than I did!
What's the distance between Santiago and Vina Del Mar?

120 kilometers or about 72 mi.

 

[hollyblue]

Here link to info about arrest warrants, extradition, explusion, etc. shortly after his being detained in Chile.

http://www.livinginperu.com/news-12...ot-arrested-chile-as-main-suspect-lima-murder

 

[georger]

yeah - i guess he must be figuring this will excuse his part in the extortion...this kid is unbelievable... he must really believe that if he says it then it is the truth and everyone will just believe him...i know that this is typical behavior for pathological liars... can he really not comprehend the fact that stephany is dead? he is so narcissistic that this is only about him and not her death and justice being served...i know that he understands that she was murdered, but its like just a minor side issue for him...kwim?

I think its all tactics with him to get his way. He thinks somebody will believe him and if that sets up a confused chaotic situation, then there
is doubt and that is all he needs - he can escape through the cracks of a technicality.
Isnt that how he escaped in Aruba? Mass chaos. I have seen a lot of people use this tactic especially in financial matters ... you create so much chaos that nobody can figure out what happened then you escape
censure, if only on a 'technicality'.

It's a real technique and it often works ... but it wont work in this matter in Peru.

 

[Bobarino]

120 kilometers or about 72 mi.

Thank you!

But I think you also noted above that he got so far into Chile, yes?

Does it make sense to you, that if he planned to sail away from some seaport, that he would have tried that closer to the Peruvian border??

 

[mlefey]

Thank you, and I am sorry too if I misinterpreted what you said.

I have no doubt that the Chilean people are wonderful, and had suffered immensely with that dictatorship. I am American and feel bad that my country was involved in bringing that torturing dictatorship to power.

I was trying to imply that perhaps Vina del Mar is still active in some ways. As America often doesn't go away from a place they have been involved in--think Guantanamo...

But regarding making his way out via ship. I thought of that.

But Chile looks looks like one long, thin country.

Coming from Peru--he couldn't have found a closer place (from where he entered) to sail from?!

No, Chile manages its own affairs and has done so for very long. The only involvement was at the time of Allende's fall and we are not Cuba.
There are ports on the north of Chile, but Valparaiso is one of the biggest ones with ships arriving from Europe and other countries every hour, and leaving every hour. It is a very busy port.

 

[Bobarino]

And what about my question above.

Does the fact that the Chilean police intercepted him as he was boarding a taxi

"when he went toboard a taxi that he had rented"

Does this not imply that he called for a taxi, and his call was intercepted?

 

[FLNY]

Thank you!

But I think you also noted above that he got so far into Chile, yes?

Does it make sense to you, that if he planned to sail away from some seaport, that he would have tried that closer to the Peruvian border??

IMO, he was just going to Vina del Mar because it had tourists and a casino...that seems to be his comfort zone. Maybe he felt he would blend in more there and not be found.

 

[mlefey]

And what about my question above.

Does the fact that the Chilean police intercepted him as he was boarding a taxi

"when he went toboard a taxi that he had rented"

Does this not imply that he called for a taxi, and his call was intercepted?

Or could be that the cab communicated by radio with his dispatcher and let them know needed the police?

 

[Bobarino]

Or could be that the cab communicated by radio with his dispatcher and let them know needed the police?

OK.

Just that the way the article says they intercepted him as he was boarding implied to me that they were there waiting for him. He would not likely have given his true name to a taxi dispatcher. So again IMO, it seems like they may have known it was him and were there waiting.