Thanks for all the information. I am having to sporadically log in and check things out. I hope Beth doesn't believe for one minute that anything she did contributed to the unfortunate murder of Stephany. He would have gotten there one way or another. Had it not been stephany, it would have been some other unfortunate girl, and I am sure there is a trail....probably some of his victims were impoverished and didn't dare go against the Dutch government, or possibly were afraid for their lives and their children's lives, or other family members. JVDS had a lot of friends in high places. They won't be able to help him now nor do I think they will try. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out this boy has some major problems. I pray for his mother and brother. As an outsider looking in, knowing very little of JVDS, having little or no knowledge of psychological profiling, I still know he has something very wrong with him.