Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #5

[krowdkat]

There is one thing that bugs me about this situation. If the murder weapon was a baseball bat then where did it come from. Who packs and brings a bat with them on vacation. Did Joran go and buy a bat and if so then he planned the murder.

I think that baseball bat was lost in translation. All the news articles since Mizz Nancy's BOMBSHELL have backed off that story and are now saying Tennis Racquet being tested for DNA. But that's JMHO.

 

[marmar]

Yes, I think we all want to see that video.

In fact I am to the point that I want to see ALL the video from time they stepped into his room until her body was found....yes, all 3 days of it.

Oh I would so sit there and watch 3 days worth of video, looking for anything. My family would probably think I've lost my mind, but I would do it. :crazy:

 

[sunsetbeach]

i think it has been determined that the "bat" is actually a tennis racquet (sp?)

Yeah it is. Wouldn't it be something if that was his Dad's. Ya know they used to play tennis together and when PVS died it was on a tennis court I believe. Maybe that was the one thing he took of his Dad's when he left Aruba.

 

[nervous_nellie]

have there been any updates in regard to the albainian guy that had the hotel check jvds hotel room? did he know stephany prior to the night in question? is this the man that is said to have lost money to her that night?

 

[Dreya]

Weather in Lima, Peru on 5/30/10:

Hi 68°F
Lo 64°F


Precip (in)
0

http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/golf/monthly/PEXX0011?month=-1

Not sure how these weather conditions relate to the rate of decomposition. I'd also wonder if there was an air conditioner in the room. The colder it is, the slower the decomp.

Thoughts.

Mel

ps: another disturbing article. Not for the weak of heart -- and I don't think I would wish this on anyone.

http://www.gambling911.com/poker/“law-donkey”-could-be-applied-joran-van-der-sloot-060610.html

“Law Of The Donkey” Could be Applied to Joran van der Sloot

I kept reading 'law of the donkey' in the reader comments on the Peruvian news sites and thought it was an amusing translation error!

amusing? not so much....

 

[Cher352]

Here is some information and pics of the Hotel Tac in Lima. It looks like the most expensive room is $40 a day and includes a bathroom, king size bed and a 29" television. The next room (pricewise) down is $35 and doesn't have a bathroom per se, but does include a jacuzzi tub in the room. The hostel is 7 stories high and has 80 rooms.

http://www.guiahostal.com/lima/hotel_tac.htm

Thanks for the link, I was searching the other day for one. Really cheap isn't it and the picture of the lobby looks so much nicer that what we saw on the video clip.

One thing I dd notice is that one picture of one of the rooms showing a fan in the room and the fact that no air conditioning was listed. That would blow the theory that he turned down the air to slow decomposition.

 

[krowdkat]

This is a good video because it shows Stephany parking her car at the casino and a clear shot of her walking in pants, shows them both walking out of the casino, and also Joran with his shirt off during his physical.

If you full screen this video and pause it at 1:29 mark (during his physical exam) it looks like the female medical person is measuring a large bruise on the top of his right shoulder.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/37550183#37550183


ETA: it also appears that Joran has a tattoo of some sort under his left peck.

 

[Cher352]

have there been any updates in regard to the albainian guy that had the hotel check jvds hotel room? did he know stephany prior to the night in question? is this the man that is said to have lost money to her that night?

Was that the guy Geraldo had on last night? I must admit I have forgotten most of it but there are so video clips of it a few pages back.

 

[cat thief]

I also think she was dead before he left for coffee. We definitely need to see how he acts/what he looks like when he leaves the room for coffee. Im wondering, was he nervous? scared? worried? did he looked shocked, angry, anxious as he walked out of his room?? I want to see the tape!

I think Joran felt if he went out for 2 cups of coffee then it would give the impression that Stephany was alive, then he could say she was killed AFTER he left the room the last time.

It would be somewhat significant to see if any coffee was ingested by Stephany.

 

[Cher352]

If you full screen this video and pause it at 1:29 mark (during his physical exam) it looks like the female medical person is measuring a large bruise on the top of his right shoulder.

Oh I need to go rewatch it again! Thanks!

 

[marmar]

Snipped from CNN article "Van der Sloot remains jailed as murder investigation continues"



So the Netherlands is uncomfortable huh? How about the way Joran has presented HIMSELF to the media and the world in general over these years that NH has been missing? When is the Netherlands and Aruba going to hold this guy accountable for his own actions?? Big deal, they paraded him in from of the camera's at least they gave him a bullet proof vest.

I'm kind of with you on this one sunset. Not only did he get away with murder, he continued to taunt and mock not only Natalee's family but the mainstream media for the past 5 years. He thought it was a big joke that any time he needed cash, he would call them up and spin another tale of what happened to her, only to recant what he said immediately afterwards. This went on for 5 long and grueling years.

If making him stand in front of the media and be humiliated is the worst he encountered, then I'd say he's a lucky man. He raised the ire of so many people over those 5 years that I'm surprised someone didn't take it upon themselves to take a bat (racquet) to his head before now, while he was jetsetting around the country gambling off of the money he made by torturing Natalee's family over and over again.

 

[Lexington]

Was that the guy Geraldo had on last night? I must admit I have forgotten most of it but there are so video clips of it a few pages back.

No. The man on Geraldo's show was a singer from Puerto Rico who was gambling in the casino and recognized Joran from the Natalie case. He gave a head's up to casino security as to his presence in the casino.

 

[nervous_nellie]

Was that the guy Geraldo had on last night? I must admit I have forgotten most of it but there are so video clips of it a few pages back.

i think the guy on geraldo was the "entertainer" at the hotel that says he tried to tell the hotel management about jvds's history... his name blades or something... i think?? anyone know for sure what his name is?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

i think the guy on geraldo was the "entertainer" at the hotel that says he tried to tell the hotel management about jvds's history... his name blades or something... i think?? anyone know for sure what his name is?

Yes his name is Blades. If you go back a few pages Patty posted GR's segment - you can see him there.

 

[passionflower]

I also feel the reason Stephany was walking with her head down is because she was embarrassed walking into a hotel room at 5:00 AM with Joran especially since she might get recognized because of her father's status.

ITA, and in such a 'cheap' hotel when she was used to the best!!!!
and with a creepy looking guy and not a stud.

 

[froginTtown]

Oh I would so sit there and watch 3 days worth of video, looking for anything. My family would probably think I've lost my mind, but I would do it. :crazy:

I would too...but its too late for me...even my 11 year old son is getting mad at me cuz he wants to play his games, and I'm always on here...I beginning to think there is ALOT more on those 3-4 days worth of tapes..Heck...I would like to see all of the activity that went on in those tapes from the day he arrived to the day they removed her body...:waitasec:

 

[nervous_nellie]

i dont have the link...but the abanian made a few references to his being worried that they may have both been kidnapped. why would it have been likely for them to have been kidnapped? he says that he feared this because jvds missed an appointment with him and then another dinner appointment as well ... but this man claims that he is in NO way "friends" with jvds... so.... if he was not friends with jvds, then it seems that he may have known stephaney in some way??? moo

 

[Patty G]

Part 1 -
Joran van der Sloot: Geraldo 6/6/10 Part 1 on Yahoo! Video

Part 2 -
Joran van der Sloot: Geraldo 6/6/10 Part 2 on Yahoo! Video

Part 3 -
Joran van der Sloot: Geraldo 6/6/10 Part 3 on Yahoo! Video

Bumping Up.

 

[Cher352]

If you full screen this video and pause it at 1:29 mark (during his physical exam) it looks like the female medical person is measuring a large bruise on the top of his right shoulder.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/37550183#37550183


ETA: it also appears that Joran has a tattoo of some sort under his left peck.

Went back and rewatched, from what I could tell that was a large bruise right at the top of his shoulder. Maybe she used the racket on him...if she did it is too bad she hadn't hit him upside the head and knock him out so she could escape.

Noticed too how he has his eyes rolled up right then.

 

[marmar]

I am having a heard time seeing the coffee cup in his hand when he exists the room. Although I see what appears to be a coffee cup in his hand as he is leaving the hotel lobby. Could he have left one of the cups of coffee in another area and then picked it up as he left the room and out of sight of the camera?

I definitely do not see a cup of coffee in his hands either Patty. In the video of him leaving through the lobby, his right hand is holding onto the bag that he was carrying, I guess the duffel bag and his left arm is hanging down at his side and swinging as he walks.