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"Francis, rebuild my church!"
Pope Benedict XVI resigned-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina has been elected
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LOL now he'll get his dinner and they'll break out the spirits! The cardinals started without him.
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Ditto.
My neighbors a few houses down are out with the kids, and they are thrilled. The mom has tears. They are Brazilian.
Thankful to be in my neighborhood today. People are out and about, and excited.
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Not a Catholic, but I am sitting here with tears in my eyes. I really like him and all are saying he is a humble man with a heart of love. We all need to strive for that. I will miss Pope Benedict as I liked him too. He spoke often of Jesus and I believe only in Jesus.
So, congrats to eveyone of the Catholic faith. I think you have a winner. jmo
So, congrats to eveyone of the Catholic faith. I think you have a winner. jmo
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The Cardinals around him looked quite happy. Are they his new right hand men?
Meanwhile my mom is going over Vegas odds, and talking about her old boyfriend Gustavo the diver from Argentina. Miss G is none too amused.
Wish I had some spirits here we could all toast to Pope Francis. If that is allowed.
I'm liking him.
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Thank you. That means so much.
Filly will be going to Church faithfully from here on in.
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My family came from Portugal via Brazil, so I was also hoping for a Brasilian like your neighbors, Filly, but am glad to have a south American of any nation!
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Prayer of St Francis... We had this on my mom's mass card when she died, it's one of my favorites:
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace,
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
Where there is injury, pardon;
Where there is doubt, faith;
Where there is despair, hope;
Where there is darkness, light;
Where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master,
grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled, as to console;
to be understood, as to understand;
to be loved, as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive.
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to Eternal Life.
Amen.
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace,
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
Where there is injury, pardon;
Where there is doubt, faith;
Where there is despair, hope;
Where there is darkness, light;
Where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master,
grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled, as to console;
to be understood, as to understand;
to be loved, as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive.
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to Eternal Life.
Amen.
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About St. Francis of Assisi:
Founder of the Franciscan Order, born at Assisi in Umbria, in 1181 or 1182 the exact year is uncertain; died there, 3 October, 1226.
His father, Pietro Bernardone, was a wealthy Assisian cloth merchant. Of his mother, Pica, little is known, but she is said to have belonged to a noble family of Provence. Francis was one of several children. The legend that he was born in a stable dates from the fifteenth century only, and appears to have originated in the desire of certain writers to make his life resemble that of Christ. At baptism the saint received the name of Giovanni, which his father afterwards altered to Francesco, through fondness it would seem for France, whither business had led him at the time of his son's birth. In any case, since the child was renamed in infancy, the change can hardly have had anything to do with his aptitude for learning French, as some have thought.
Francis received some elementary instruction from the priests of St. George's at Assisi, though he learned more perhaps in the school of the Troubadours, who were just then making for refinement in Italy. However this may be, he was not very studious, and his literary education remained incomplete. Although associated with his father in trade, he showed little liking for a merchant's career, and his parents seemed to have indulged his every whim. Thomas of Celano, his first biographer, speaks in very severe terms of Francis's youth. Certain it is that the saint's early life gave no presage of the golden years that were to come. No one loved pleasure more than Francis; he had a ready wit, sang merrily, delighted in fine clothes and showy display. Handsome, gay, gallant, and courteous, he soon became the prime favourite among the young nobles of Assisi, the foremost in every feat of arms, the leader of the civil revels, the very king of frolic. But even at this time Francis showed an instinctive sympathy with the poor, and though he spent money lavishly, it still flowed in such channels as to attest a princely magnanimity of spirit.
When about twenty, Francis went out with the townsmen to fight the Perugians in one of the petty skirmishes so frequent at that time between the rival cities. The Assisians were defeated on this occasion, and Francis, being among those taken prisoners, was held captive for more than a year in Perugia. A low fever which he there contracted appears to have turned his thoughts to the things of eternity; at least the emptiness of the life he had been leading came to him during that long illness. With returning health, however, Francis's eagerness after glory reawakened and his fancy wandered in search of victories; at length he resolved to embrace a military career, and circumstances seemed to favour his aspirations. A knight of Assisi was about to join "the gentle count", Walter of Brienne, who was then in arms in the Neapolitan States against the emperor, and Francis arranged to accompany him. His biographers tell us that the night before Francis set forth he had a strange dream, in which he saw a vast hall hung with armour all marked with the Cross. "These", said a voice, "are for you and your soldiers." "I know I shall be a great prince", exclaimed Francis exultingly, as he started for Apulia. But a second illness arrested his course at Spoleto. There, we are told, Francis had another dream in which the same voice bade him turn back to Assisi. He did so at once. This was in 1205.....
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06221a.htm
Founder of the Franciscan Order, born at Assisi in Umbria, in 1181 or 1182 the exact year is uncertain; died there, 3 October, 1226.
His father, Pietro Bernardone, was a wealthy Assisian cloth merchant. Of his mother, Pica, little is known, but she is said to have belonged to a noble family of Provence. Francis was one of several children. The legend that he was born in a stable dates from the fifteenth century only, and appears to have originated in the desire of certain writers to make his life resemble that of Christ. At baptism the saint received the name of Giovanni, which his father afterwards altered to Francesco, through fondness it would seem for France, whither business had led him at the time of his son's birth. In any case, since the child was renamed in infancy, the change can hardly have had anything to do with his aptitude for learning French, as some have thought.
Francis received some elementary instruction from the priests of St. George's at Assisi, though he learned more perhaps in the school of the Troubadours, who were just then making for refinement in Italy. However this may be, he was not very studious, and his literary education remained incomplete. Although associated with his father in trade, he showed little liking for a merchant's career, and his parents seemed to have indulged his every whim. Thomas of Celano, his first biographer, speaks in very severe terms of Francis's youth. Certain it is that the saint's early life gave no presage of the golden years that were to come. No one loved pleasure more than Francis; he had a ready wit, sang merrily, delighted in fine clothes and showy display. Handsome, gay, gallant, and courteous, he soon became the prime favourite among the young nobles of Assisi, the foremost in every feat of arms, the leader of the civil revels, the very king of frolic. But even at this time Francis showed an instinctive sympathy with the poor, and though he spent money lavishly, it still flowed in such channels as to attest a princely magnanimity of spirit.
When about twenty, Francis went out with the townsmen to fight the Perugians in one of the petty skirmishes so frequent at that time between the rival cities. The Assisians were defeated on this occasion, and Francis, being among those taken prisoners, was held captive for more than a year in Perugia. A low fever which he there contracted appears to have turned his thoughts to the things of eternity; at least the emptiness of the life he had been leading came to him during that long illness. With returning health, however, Francis's eagerness after glory reawakened and his fancy wandered in search of victories; at length he resolved to embrace a military career, and circumstances seemed to favour his aspirations. A knight of Assisi was about to join "the gentle count", Walter of Brienne, who was then in arms in the Neapolitan States against the emperor, and Francis arranged to accompany him. His biographers tell us that the night before Francis set forth he had a strange dream, in which he saw a vast hall hung with armour all marked with the Cross. "These", said a voice, "are for you and your soldiers." "I know I shall be a great prince", exclaimed Francis exultingly, as he started for Apulia. But a second illness arrested his course at Spoleto. There, we are told, Francis had another dream in which the same voice bade him turn back to Assisi. He did so at once. This was in 1205.....
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06221a.htm
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So he is Italian yet born in south America? Interesting.
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Yes. Argentina has quite a varied European immigrant community, Germans as well as Italians represented in good number.
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Argentina had a policy of attracting European immigrants in the 19th and 20th century. This also applied to Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay. Chile has a large Croatian population. Brazil has the largest Japanese population outside of Japan. Latin America is an interesting part of the world.
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He's a Jesuit, babe. It's totally allowed. Even twice.
I have to say I'm quite pleased. Francis is an amazing choice of name and guide...I've always worked to be more like St. Francis (and fall short each and every moment of each and every day), and feel a huge affinity for this Pope.
God be with the Pope, now and always.
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I notice we also have a bright comet, PANSTARRS. No great or bright comets have occurred during a Papal conclave. The closest was in 1264 with the Great Comet of 1264 and a conclave that happened once the comet faded.
Great Comet of 1264 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Great Comet of 1264 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Over 50% of Argentinians have some degree of Italian descent.
I remember being surprised when my Mom had told me that those in her family who did not come to the US, immigrated to Argentina.
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We overlooked another Francis! St Francis Xavier, co-founder of the Jesuit order along with St Ignatius:
http://www.americancatholic.org/features/saints/saint.aspx?id=1218
http://www.americancatholic.org/features/saints/saint.aspx?id=1218