To Kill a Mockingbird
Karma Will Get LISK!!!
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There are at least 3 times where Mari's recounting of conversations can be questioned.
1) The entire "home for wayward girls" saga.
2) The discussion of the tox screens by the Suffolk ME
3) This truck issue we are discussing.
I think we have to tread carefully when dealing with "facts" emanating from her. Especially now that we have a really good look at what kind of person/lawyer Ray actually is. I think the poor woman was in shock and grieving and a lot of her public comments were shaped by Ray as well as her hatred of the police.
This timeline is from Seaslug44 on April 7, 2012
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> Seaslug44 puts the timeline in perspective as to when Mari & Sherre first stated when the call was rec'd by CPH. This is from Websleuths.
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> 04-07-2012, 07:29 PM
> Seaslug44
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> Let's look at what we really know (and do not know) about this 1st phone call.
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> Mari's interview with NY Magazine a year after SG went missing is the most accurate and detailed first-hand response from Mari regarding that 1st phone call;
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> The day after Shannan went missing, Mari says, she received a phone call from a man claiming to be Hackett. The man said he ran a home for wayward girls where Shannan had been staying and was calling because she had left unexpectedly. He asked Mari if she knew where Shannan was. It was the first time Mari had heard Shannan was missing.
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> Mari didnt know what to make of the call. Looking back, she cant even be sure it was Hackett on the phone. If it was him, was he fishing to see if Shannan was all right? Was someone else doing that, using his name?
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> From this interview with Mari, we know the following;
> She claims the call was made to her the very next day after SG went missing (so the call was made to her on Sunday May 2nd).
> She cannot prove that the caller was indeed CPH (which implies that she doesn't have phone records to prove it)
> She claims that this phone call is how she learned that SG was missing.
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> There is something that doesn't add up here.
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> Here we have Mari stating that she first learned about SG going missing on Sunday May 2nd.
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> However, according to her daughter Sherre, they did not learn that SG was missing until Monday May 3rd;
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> The mystery of Shannan's disappearance began on May 3, 2010. Sherre Gilbert got a phone call from her sister's boyfriend reporting that Shannan hadn't come home in two days.
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> "Immediately, I started to panic ... I knew when he called me that it was something serious..." she says."I could hear the fear in his voice...
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> The Gilberts say they immediately filed a missing persons report, but with no news, they drove 140 miles from their home in upstate New York to Oak Beach, Long Island, to look for Shannan themselves. By then, she had been missing for eight days..."
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> And this tends to be supported by the fact that according to the New Jersey City police, the first missing person's report was filed by Gilbert's parent the on Tuesday May 4th (the day after Alex called Sherre (Source).
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> And eight days later would have put their first visit to Oak Beach to look for her as Sunday May 9th, Mothers Day (more about that day in a moment).
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> Back to Monday May 3rd...
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> That is also the day that Joe Brewer learned that SG was missing;
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> Pak, the driver, and Diaz, the boyfriend, dialed him on a three-way call to discuss what happened.
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> Brewer said he tried to join Diaz to file a missing persons report in Suffolk County, but was told that he was not close enough to Gilbert to do so. Her family later filed the report.
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> That is also the day when CPH claims to have met Alex and Michael "by chance" as they were going door to door asking neighbors for assistance. Whether or not you want to trust that the letters faxed to 48 Hours are authentic, you can trust that the story about Alex & Michael and the May 6, 2010 call to Mari from CPH took place because Jim Jones heard it repeated by CPH himself when he spoke to Mari;
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> Mari informs the doctor that she wants to know first hand what happened.
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> I never saw her. I never met her, is his reply.
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> Yeah but this is my question, Mari says. You called me. And for over a year you denied it.
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> I didnt deny it. I he says.
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> Its been widely reported in the media that the doctor lied about having ever called Mari. But to be fair, I have yet to see any footage of this or even any quotes that provide context. All I have seen is footage of him denying ever seeing Shannan and saying that he hadnt even heard her name until a week or so after the night she went missing.
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> And when there was proof that you called me, you admitted it, Mari adds.
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> I had long since told the police that I called you. Because Alex (Shannans boyfriend) asked me to call you, the doctor responds.
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> The doctor goes on to tell us that he gave Alex his card to give to Mari and everyone else.
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> But you called me on the second not the sixth. Way before anyone knew Shannan was missing.
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> Its an important point because if he called her on the 2nd it could suggest that he got the number from Shannan or from her phone, rather than from Alex. Though I personally have never seen the record that Mari cites.
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> I didnt call you on the second. How could I call you on the second? he says, walking away a few steps in apparent aggravation.
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> Thats what I wanna know , Mari states.
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> Well, I dont no one has any proof of that, he says, returning to us.
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> The phone records are proof.
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> Youll have to Show them to the police, please, he says.
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> They have them, Mari replies.
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> The doctor goes on to tell us that all he did was meet Alex and the driver as they were coming down the street asking questions and that he invited them in to talk. He says he told them to contact Suffolk County police as well as the Jersey City police and that he also told them to check with Shannans family to make sure that her phone was turned on. He also says that he met Shannans sisters the following week when they came that Mothers Day. And that he returned the phone calls that Alex asked him to make but that was it.
> All this stuff about a rehab or something, he adds. I dont have any rehab. I dont do rehab.
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> So why would you say that to me? Mari asks.
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> I didnt, he says.
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> As far as Sunday May 9th, that is the day that SG's mother, sister and friends finally went to Oak Beach to look for SG (no offense, but when you find out on a Monday that someone in your family went missing, why do you wait until almost a week later to get in the car and go look for her???).
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> That is also the day that they went to CPH's home. Incidentally, what we don't know are the details of why CPH called Sherree for 4 minutes at 12:06pm on that day (Mother's Day) -Source I suspect that he was returning her phone call because she may have called him to let him know that they were in the neighborhood and would like to meet with him).
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> Now here are the things that also don't add up for me;
> If Mari received a phone call on May 2nd as she claims, then when Sherre received the startling phone call from Alex, why didn't Sherre tell Alex that SG was okay because she was in a rehab?
> When Mari went to Jersey City to report SG missing, why didn't she make any mention of the May 1st phone call??
> Why does Sherre later change her story and start saying that she was standing next to her mom when she received the May 2nd phone call about rehab?" If that was true, then why did she first go on record by saying that it was AD's May 3rd phone call first alerted her to the fact that SG was missing?
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