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conceding a 'maybe', leaves only one option, that there was an argument, but the defence are hoping that no-one heard it [at the bail stage].
The sentence of 5 years imprisonment in terms of Section 276 (1)(i) of Act 51 of 1977 for the murder of Reeva Steenkamp...
~rsbm~
I'm certain they must've known there was one, what with what you have said there plus the fact that they never disputed that EVDM heard an argument, all they said is that she must've been mistaken as to where it was coming from .. in other words, they accepted she had actually heard an argument.
Hi Zwiebel, nice to have you back on board. Even though it was stated that it was 14 days, the NPA came out on Monday and said that wasn't the case. In any event, yesterday, they said they'd done the application and were just "polishing it off". Lots of happy people here tonight.
O/T I haven't been following Dewani live via twitter, just reading articles. I've read where VZ is doing well and that the PT advocate is very weak. Is that correct or a bad opinion on someone's part?
I believe it was Uncle A who asked for the ban to be lifted. Why would Roux make that decision without any family input? And since OP wasn't tested for alcohol until such times as there would have been none left in his system, no one could be absolutely sure it wasn't alcohol related. As I said before, why ask for a restriction on alcohol to be lifted if the killer supposedly didn't drink alcohol?
It was Uncle A. who incorrectly thought OP never drank. Roux and OP knew better. I believe that the reason behind Roux asking the Court to remove the restriction was twofold. #1 It was an unreasonable restriction due to neither the DT nor the PT claiming that OP was drinking the night he killed RS. #2 The restriction could imply that alcohol was involved.
RSBM
It could also have been because they knew OP's previous history of heavy drinking bouts, and wanted the restriction lifted to reduce the possibility of him being in breach of bail conditions during the trial.
~snipped~BBM - I still don't believe it was Uncle Arnold who asked for the restriction on alcohol to be lifted.
It makes sense that it was Uncle A who asked for the restriction to be lifted, as he's the one who said it was unfair to impose it in the first place.
Arnold says banning Oscar from having alcohol is not fair.
Its not relevant because he doesnt drink alcohol at all, Arnold said.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/oscar-s-uncle-wants-to-take-him-to-moz-1.1484657
Ohhh... I totally accept that as being one of the reasons !!
O/T question: R[? ] Snipped By Me
BBM That's quite possible, someone had posted one of the Prof's tweets asking for a translation for an article awhile back and it mentioned he had some homework(or some such description) to do for him.
What I would like to know is whether anyone has taken note of the books and what they were in one of the pics of OP's kitchen? From the titles I could read there was more than one that was all about forensics, detectives, profiling, psychology, narcissists and mind games kind of stuff(that being gleaned from doing simple searches for book reviews on the titles/authors). Looks like OP was doing his own homework since his supposed interests were running and architecture...
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This seemed like a strange title for a book for OP to have and I was curious. I googled a review of it and found the first chapter. One screen's worth was more than enough for me. Why would a man have such a book. Indeed, why would he have some of the others. He's one very, very strange individual IMO.
Love Sick: One Woman's Journey Through Sexual Addiction (entire first chapter)
http://www.suewilliamsilverman.com/..._addiction__now_available_in_paperb_12175.htm
~snipped~
It makes sense that it was Uncle A who asked for the restriction to be lifted, as he's the one who said it was unfair to impose it in the first place.
From the same article: "Oscar also feels reporting to the Brooklyn Police Station twice a week is an unreasonable bail condition". This is the same guy who said he would respect his bail conditions.
Thanks for this, CM .. I don't remember this bit at all (possibly one of the times where I was faffing about trying to find a live video streaming link that would actually work .. there were many such times throughout the trial, and very annoying they were, too!). Could you give a rough time on that vid (and the remind me which day it was, pls) so that I can check it out .. TIA!
Edited to say I've just seen the date (15 April) .. so it would've been that vid and the day before's vid, so it would be great to have the times in the vids for both of them, thanks![]()
It makes sense that it was Uncle A who asked for the restriction to be lifted, as he's the one who said it was unfair to impose it in the first place.
From the same article: "Oscar also feels reporting to the Brooklyn Police Station twice a week is an unreasonable bail condition". This is the same guy who said he would respect his bail conditions.
I'm still amazed at how two people were supposedly able to leave a bed looking like only one person had spent any time on it...
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Or how someone would leave something like this out while claiming to be sooo in love with someone else, heck even if just dating someone you don't leave pics of "ex" gf's on display, it's called respect. Methinks that call to this "ex" as OP was entering the complex had quite a bit to do with what happened later that night.
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Also, why would anyone keep a cheque like this on their kitchen counter? Weren't the London games months before or was this just a display copy(trophy)?
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Or how anyone, let alone a judge, could possibly think that shots like this weren't meant to hit someone sitting on the loo....
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