Questions For Websleuthers Part 4

[msinformed]

I don't know where else I could post this, therefore, here goes.

I was reading, again, KC's written statement from 7/16/08, and noticed things I obviously had previously overlooked.

Document link:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/0825-Casey-Anthony-Documents-released-part-1

Her statement is on pages 31-34.

To begin with ...... she states twice in the statement, she dropped Caylee off between 9am and 1pm. A FOUR hour window? Unbelievable! Couldn't EVEN narrow down the time SHE LAST SAW HER BABY????? :furious:

However, what really stood out this time, was on page 33, she states, "I have not had any contact with Zenaida since Thursday, June 12, 2008. I received a quick call from Zenaida." (This statement was written, of course, when 'they' were all throwing the June 9th date out there.)

Then, on page 34, she once again states, "With many and all attempts to contact Zenaida, within the one short conversation, on June 12, 2008, I was never able to check on the status or well-being of my daughter. Zenaida never made an attempt to explain why Caylee is no longer in Orlando, or if she is ever going to bring her home."

Bolding is mine ..........

I just did not remember ever hearing KC tell of any telephone communication between her and the nanny (after the "kidnapping"). I only recalled the phone call KC claimed to have received from Caylee on 7/15/08.

Furthermore, that last sentence I quoted from her statement blew me away, considering she maintained, in her "gut," she felt Caylee was "close."

This just has me :waitasec:

Just another way KC has, for sure, sealed her own fate in this case.

JB, in his attempts to defend her, will NEVER be able to overcome KC's own stupidity (or his own, for that matter)!

 

[strach304]

I have a question that bothers the hell out of me. Maybe it has been discussed and I missed it. I just cannot wrap my mind around Casey's line of thinking about much of anything anyway.

Exactly what was the plan for her up till the point that Cindy tracked her down? I do believe that Cindy is the one who gave her the out after she said, "What have you done" and then immediately said "Who took her?"

That's the part I don't get. The whole nanny shenanigan originated with the lies about working, trying to sound like she could afford better than a babysitter and an excuse to stay away from home at night without telling Cindy she was shacked up with some guy or taking Caylee to late night parties.

Therefore, the whole thing was off the fly. No advance planning and she's as dumb as a door nail. She had a month to come up with something but didn't. One more day? What would that have accomplished for her?

 

[RR0004]

I don't know where else I could post this, therefore, here goes.

I was reading, again, KC's written statement from 7/16/08, and noticed things I obviously had previously overlooked.

Document link:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/0825-Casey-Anthony-Documents-released-part-1

Her statement is on pages 31-34.

To begin with ...... she states twice in the statement, she dropped Caylee off between 9am and 1pm. A FOUR hour window? Unbelievable! Couldn't EVEN narrow down the time SHE LAST SAW HER BABY????? :furious:

However, what really stood out this time, was on page 33, she states, "I have not had any contact with Zenaida since Thursday, June 12, 2008. I received a quick call from Zenaida." (This statement was written, of course, when 'they' were all throwing the June 9th date out there.)

Then, on page 34, she once again states, "With many and all attempts to contact Zenaida, within the one short conversation, on June 12, 2008, I was never able to check on the status or well-being of my daughter. Zenaida never made an attempt to explain why Caylee is no longer in Orlando, or if she is ever going to bring her home."

Bolding is mine ..........

I just did not remember ever hearing KC tell of any telephone communication between her and the nanny (after the "kidnapping"). I only recalled the phone call KC claimed to have received from Caylee on 7/15/08.

Furthermore, that last sentence I quoted from her statement blew me away, considering she maintained, in her "gut," she felt Caylee was "close."

This just has me :waitasec:

Just another way KC has, for sure, sealed her own fate in this case.

JB, in his attempts to defend her, will NEVER be able to overcome KC's own stupidity (or his own, for that matter)!

Well, then I guess it's a good thing that 'ole George remembers them leaving at 12:50pm...she had 10 minutes to make her statement factual. (Not that I believe any of it!!!)

 

[msinformed]

Well, then I guess it's a good thing that 'ole George remembers them leaving at 12:50pm...she had 10 minutes to make her statement factual. (Not that I believe any of it!!!)

Great thinking! I hadn't even incorporated THAT in the mix. Too many lies from all to consider when approaching this from a "normal" perspective!

 

[msinformed]

I have a question that bothers the hell out of me. Maybe it has been discussed and I missed it. I just cannot wrap my mind around Casey's line of thinking about much of anything anyway.

Exactly what was the plan for her up till the point that Cindy tracked her down? I do believe that Cindy is the one who gave her the out after she said, "What have you done" and then immediately said "Who took her?"

That's the part I don't get. The whole nanny shenanigan originated with the lies about working, trying to sound like she could afford better than a babysitter and an excuse to stay away from home at night without telling Cindy she was shacked up with some guy or taking Caylee to late night parties.

Therefore, the whole thing was off the fly. No advance planning and she's as dumb as a door nail. She had a month to come up with something but didn't. One more day? What would that have accomplished for her?

Yep, home girl was "wingin' it" from "day one!"

 

[tehcloser]

Well, then I guess it's a good thing that 'ole George remembers them leaving at 12:50pm...she had 10 minutes to make her statement factual. (Not that I believe any of it!!!)

I thought George said the 16th, not the 15th??? :waitasec:

 

[countzero]

A thought about JB wanting the trial moved to another jurisdiction. I suppose that Miami would be out since the recent arrest of the gal that claimed her son was kidnapped by the nanny. Only there wasn't a baby or a nanny.

Nothing like having copy cats running around. The only good thing about this one was there wasn't a kidnapping and there wasn't a death of another baby.

This gal even had two phones and was texting herself posing as the nanny. KC didn't consider she should have done that.

I hope the LE in Miami gets the money they are asking for to recover the costs of the man hours expended. Hope OC does the same to KC and the A's eventually.

 

[Chilly Willy]

A thought about JB wanting the trial moved to another jurisdiction. I suppose that Miami would be out since the recent arrest of the gal that claimed her son was kidnapped by the nanny. Only there wasn't a baby or a nanny.

Nothing like having copy cats running around. The only good thing about this one was there wasn't a kidnapping and there wasn't a death of another baby.

This gal even had two phones and was texting herself posing as the nanny. KC didn't consider she should have done that.

I hope the LE in Miami gets the money they are asking for to recover the costs of the man hours expended. Hope OC does the same to KC and the A's eventually.

Isn't that something? I mean, if you're going to copycat a crime, shouldn't you pick one that was successful?

 

[BonKai]

Just out of curiosity, I'm not going anywhere with this line of thought but...How common is it for the court to seal a psych eval? Once sealed are they ever unsealed? What are the various reasons that a psych eval is sealed and is there one reason that stands out more than others? TIA for answering my questions.

I believe it would be in violation of HIPAA.

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacysummary.pdf

 

[BonKai]

Yep, home girl was "wingin' it" from "day one!"

"Absolutely"! :floorlaugh:

 

[Lanie]

Here is my question/thing that has irked me. I have read time after time after time Casey's car was backed into the space at Amscot. I could have sworn that is not what I read in the documents, but since there is so much info, I thought, hey, maybe I remembered incorrectly.
Today, I actually came across the interview with the tow truck driver.

"Mr. Ridgeway recalled the white Pontiac was parked next to the dumpster. The white Pontiac was parked with the front of the car towards the curb."

Now, wouldn't that be parked as in pulled in, not backed in? Am I just totally misunderstanding this statement?
TIA
Lanie

 

[debs]

Here is my question/thing that has irked me. I have read time after time after time Casey's car was backed into the space at Amscot. I could have sworn that is not what I read in the documents, but since there is so much info, I thought, hey, maybe I remembered incorrectly.
Today, I actually came across the interview with the tow truck driver.

"Mr. Ridgeway recalled the white Pontiac was parked next to the dumpster. The white Pontiac was parked with the front of the car towards the curb."

Now, wouldn't that be parked as in pulled in, not backed in? Am I just totally misunderstanding this statement?
TIA
Lanie

You aren't wrong. I've noticed it many times that people insist the car was backed into the parking spot though the testimony is that it was in the slot front-end first. Wutaya gonna do?

 

[gardenhart]

I believe it would be in violation of HIPAA.

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacysummary.pdf

I've heard information from a psych evaluation used by the defense during both the trial itself and the sentencing phase on capital cases. You might see the same here. None of them, btw, were ever successful in getting the jury not to recommend the death penalty.

There are also exemptions in HIPAA to remove privacy provisions in court cases involving, for example, child abuse, or for court ordered evaluations.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I just received a google alert saying that Casey has been denied attending the funeral. Did we already know this?

 

[BonKai]

I've heard information from a psych evaluation used by the defense during both the trial itself and the sentencing phase on capital cases. You might see the same here. None of them, btw, were ever successful in getting the jury not to recommend the death penalty.

There are also exemptions in HIPAA to remove privacy provisions in court cases involving, for example, child abuse, or for court ordered evaluations.

That is true, but I doubt that we, the public, will be privy to that info until the trial (if it is used).

 

[technicalconfusion]

I just received a google alert saying that Casey has been denied attending the funeral. Did we already know this?

Yes we knew it last week I believe. It's in the thread titled Funeral.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Yes we knew it last week I believe. It's in the thread titled Funeral.

Figures. I'm always a day late and a dollar short. I recalled that we speculated about whether she would be allowed to attend but was unaware that she'd made the request and been denied. Thanks.

Grape, please.

 

[msinformed]

Figures. I'm always a day late and a dollar short. I recalled that we speculated about whether she would be allowed to attend but was unaware that she'd made the request and been denied. Thanks.

Grape, please.

Actually, I believe it is the policy of OC Corrections to not allow an inmate to attend a funeral.

However, the inmate can petition the Court, requesting permission to do so.

Therefore, I assume (I know, my bad), JB filed a Motion and the Court denied said Motion.

She HAD to at least make the effort , imo, so as to "look" like she wanted to attend.

 

[reeseeva]

If there was a motion filed by the defense, why haven't we heard of it. It seems that anything filed before the court, as well as any news at the jail was front & center up until a week ago.

The sources that be must be on Holiday break?

 

[passionflower]

any info on a date of burial yet??? 2009???