9 LOU SMIT: Can I touch just
10 a little bit before you move on. It's the
11 nightgown. JonBenet, did she own a life-
12 sized Barbie nightgown -- life-sized
13 Barbie doll?
14 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah.
15 LOU SMIT: She did, big one?
16 JOHN RAMSEY: It was about that
17 tall maybe.
18 LOU SMIT: Did she used to
19 dress this Barbie nightgown in any type of
20 -- I keep saying nightgown, Barbie doll in
21 any type of clothing?
22 JOHN RAMSEY: She probably did
23 when she first got it. I don't remember that
24 she played with it much. I mean I can remember
25 the thing just sitting in the corner or
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1 something.
2 LOU SMIT: Where is the
3 Barbie doll kept normally, if you could
4 show us?
5 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, my memory of
6 is that -- oh, man, I can't find where we are at
7 here. Where is the second floor? I remember it
8 kind of sitting against the wall back here in
9 her room.
10 LOU SMIT: In her bedroom?
11 JOHN RAMSEY: In her bedroom.
12 I think that's the last time I remember seeing
13 it, which might have been, you know, months
14 before. I don't know.
15 LOU SMIT: We have heard
16 that a Barbie nightgown was one of her
17 favorite nightgowns. What can you tell us
18 about that?
19 JOHN RAMSEY: I think she had a
20 Barbie nightgown, yeah, as I recall. Pink,
21 maybe.
22 LOU SMIT: The night you put
23 her in bed, do you remember anything about
24 a Barbie nightgown?
25 JOHN RAMSEY: When I put
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1 her to bed she had on, when I laid her
2 down in the bed, she had on what she had
3 worn to the Whites. She had that same
4 shirt on when I found her.
5 LOU SMIT: What I am trying
6 to say, John, is where would that []Barbie[/b]
7 nightgown have been?
8 JOHN RAMSEY: It would have either
9 been in her bathroom drawer here, which a lot of
10 them were kept.
11 LOU SMIT: Under the sink?
12 JOHN RAMSEY: By the sink, I
13 believe. It could have been on the floor or it
14 would have been in the washing machine. That's
15 probably only three places it would have been.
16 LOU SMIT: I would like to
17 show you photograph number 145, and this
18 is a photograph of the wine cellar and it
19 was taken at after the body was found.
20 But John, I would like you just to take
21 look at this, and again difficult
22 photograph, but tell us what you see.
23 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, that's looking
24 in the room from the door, I see the blanket
25 that looks like the one that was around her.
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1 There is a pink something, pink -- I think
2 that's the nightgown or.
3 LOU SMIT: That's what I was
4 going to inquire about. It is a
5 nightgown, it is a pink one, it is a
6 Barbie nightgown?
7 JOHN RAMSEY: It looks like
8 it's a shinier material than I remember.
9 (INAUDIBLE). That looks more like what I
10 kind of remember was on the Barbie doll
11 itself.
12 LOU SMIT: That one does?
13 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. If I had to
14 speculate, that looks too shiny, the material,
15 but it seems to me I remember that Barbie doll
16 had a shiny pink nightgown thing on it.
17 LOU SMIT: Why do you think,
18 John, that that's down here? I mean --
19 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah, I don't.
20 It certainly should not be. I don't
21 remember seeing it. But I was pretty
22 focused, I guess, at that time.
23 LOU SMIT: Again, you had mentioned
24 the fact that the blanket had been wrapped
25 around her almost like, what did you describe it
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2 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, she looked
3 very, like someone had very carefully placed her
4 on the blanket, wrapped the blanket around her
5 to keep her warm.
6 LOU SMIT: And then we have a
7 Barbie or a nightgown. There is just
8 suggestions that are made to that, and
9 what's your opinion of that, and what's
10 your impression?
11 JOHN RAMSEY: God, I can only
12 imagine it. That that was something very
13 perverted.
