Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #1

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As far as I know, as of yesterday there was only ONE woman who got money in a settlement of a law suit, right? And yet, in discussing this topic on "The View" this morning, Whoppi was back on her soapbox beating the "why did they wait 30 years" drum. In addition, someone, I am not sure who as I had glanced away from the TV, chimed in with "well they got SETTLEMENTS out of it" - implying that ALL of the women who have made the accusations have received settlements.

Now, how is it that people whose job it is to be up on current affairs would not have correctly read any of the numerous articles that are on the internet at this point? And that such a piece of misinformation would be broadcast as truth?

If the ladies of The View are going to discuss this topic, they need to be stating the FACTS! Whoppie won't believe any of this "without solid proof" she says. Okay, fine. But DON'T be making false statements on national television - because it kind of looks like someone may be trying to perform a whitewash.


Yeah that's not even logical and internally consistent.

Either you criticize them for not coming forward and complaining earlier... or you criticize them for getting a settlement earlier. But you can't throw both balls at them at the same time because people who got settlements years ago must have come forward and complained years ago.
 
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/shielded-bill-cosby

If the damning charges swirling around the comedian are true, then we lack a proper metric to detail the scale of the hypocrisy that he represents. It is one thing to wear one face in public and another in private, a dichotomy that we all practice to some degree or another, though usually not to cloak serial predation upon semi-conscious women. But it’s quite another to do so while stridently, consistently, angrily denouncing those who have failed to meet your own moral standards. Yet in the past month we’ve learned little about Cosby that was not already known, which is that more than a dozen women have accused him of sexual assault. More of these women’s names have been made public now, but enough of their stories were out there already. In 2006, Andrea Constand, who worked with the Temple University basketball program—Cosby is a Temple alumnus and, even now, a university trustee—filed a civil suit alleging that Cosby had sexually assaulted her, and that thirteen other women were prepared to testify on her behalf about their own similar experiences. Two of them, Tamara Green and Beth Ferrer, had already come forward. Cosby settled the suit. Barbara Bowman, one of the women who’d been prepared to testify, spoke out soon after, giving interviews under her full name to Philadelphia and People. She described how, when she was a young actress, Cosby drugged and raped her—a story similar in detail to those of other women. If we didn’t know this about Cosby it’s because we chose not to recall it, because the storyline was too appealing, the persona too charismatic. The hypocrisy in this situation is vast, but it does not solely belong to Cosby.

The accounts of these women have garnered outrage now thanks to the open commentary and social networks of the Internet, and the renewed attention to a routine, from October, in which the comedian Hannibal Buress referred to Cosby as a rapist. Bowman wrote, in the Washington Post, that her story had not been considered credible until a man repeated it onstage. But this is only part of what stirred a response to the Cosby allegations. Hannibal Buress, like Cosby, is a black man, a common heir to the body of stereotypes about sexual predation and the tormented history that accompany it. Cosby was insulated from the long trail of allegations not only by his wealth and power but by the lurid history of black men brought low by accusations, specious or not, of sexual contact with white women. African-Americans have cultivated an immune response to such matters, which is part of why the idea that this scandal is a digital lynching has gained traction in some sectors of black America. When Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote about the damning nature of the charges and his regret for not having dug deeper into them when he profiled Cosby in 2008, the writer Ishmael Reed responded with a Facebook post declaring that Coates had joined a lynch mob. For his part, Buress saw the lurid stories around Cosby not as evidence of a prominent black man being brought low but as the exposing of a serial rapist who had masterfully manipulated both the white desire for an icon of post-racialism and the black desire for the type of dignified success that Cosby represented. And in publicly voicing this sentiment, Buress effectively made it safe for others, particularly white people, to do the same. In short, this is not the conversation we would be having if Bill Maher or Jimmy Kimmel had called Cosby a rapist.

Oh and yet another woman, Phyllis Lane from Phoenix, tells her story: (she was not raped or drugged, thankfully)

http://ktar.com/22/1785976/Phoenix-woman-Bill-Cosby-pursued-me-when-I-was-16

Lane, now an artist and author, recounted how, as a 16-year-old girl with a budding modeling career, she was selected out of a crowd at one of Cosby's New York City show tapings so the comedian could meet her. Lane claimed Cosby offered to help her with an acting career.

A few nights later, Cosby took her and a roommate to a brownstone house, where he offered Lane alcohol. She did not accept.

"When we walked away, we were both like, 'Something's not right here,'" she said.

And another:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...aims-bill-cosby-kiss-fondle-article-1.2020517

Playboy Bunny claims Bill Cosby tried to kiss, touch her breasts during Christmas Eve dinner with his family
Sarita Butterfield, now 59 and living in the Bronx, said the married Cosby came on to her in his Massachusetts home with his wife and their five kids in the house. The former Playboy Bunny claims the actor tried to kiss her and touch her breasts during the Christmas Eve encounter.
 
From Daily Beast link:

Ruehli claimed she kept the story to herself because she was “embarrassed,” and only decided to come forward when Constand filed her lawsuit against Cosby, serving as one of her Jane Doe’s. “I don’t need money or aggravation,” she said. “I’m very wealthy, so I have nothing to gain. But I wanted to come forward to tell the truth to back up other people.”
 
From Daily Beast....

Many of the women also claimed they were in emotionally vulnerable states when Cosby allegedly set his sights on them. Ferrigno had experienced a rough breakup; Tarshis says she was an alcoholic; Valentino’s 6-year-old son had passed away one year prior; Green’s brother was terminally ill, and a Cosby fan; Dickinson was fresh out of rehab; Hill was a minor; Bowman’s father had died when she was a teenager; the list goes on
 
Shattering The Silence
11.24.14
How I Stopped My Rapist
My attacker wasn’t powerful or famous—but my testimony helped put him away so he couldn’t harm other women. Why we need to make it safe for victims to speak out.

According to the Justice Department, false reports are “estimated to occur at the low rate of 2 percent.” According to the FBI, only 24 percent of rapes lead to arrest. No doubt, there are wrongful convictions that result from misidentification and coerced confessions. But among the wrongfully incarcerated, you’ll rarely find someone rich, powerful, or famous. Instead you will find men like Timothy Brian Cole—his family and the victim, through the Innocence Project of Texas, sought to clear his name and eventually did so posthumously. The rich and the powerful have resources at their disposal that people like brave Mr. Cole do not.

If there is one thing you take from all of this, I hope you’ll give the benefit of a doubt to people who come forward and admit to being assaulted. It’s not easy to go public. It’s not easy going through a rape-kit examination. I hope you’ll recognize that rapists are a threat to public safety and that it is far from a rare occurrence. I’m not telling you what to believe and what not to believe, but every time you start debating this publicly and slamming people, victims are less likely to come forward for fear of ridicule. And rapists feel empowered knowing they can easily get away with it. And they prey on those that society will be least likely to believe.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/24/how-i-stopped-my-rapist.html
 
From Daily Beast....

Many of the women also claimed they were in emotionally vulnerable states when Cosby allegedly set his sights on them. Ferrigno had experienced a rough breakup; Tarshis says she was an alcoholic; Valentino’s 6-year-old son had passed away one year prior; Green’s brother was terminally ill, and a Cosby fan; Dickinson was fresh out of rehab; Hill was a minor; Bowman’s father had died when she was a teenager; the list goes on

Sounds like a list of problems we all could have. What actually makes someone vulnerable? A rough break-up? Father died when she was a teenager? These things happen to a lot of people everyday.
 
Sounds like a list of problems we all could have. What actually makes someone vulnerable? A rough break-up? Father died when she was a teenager? These things happen to a lot of people everyday.

I believe the idea is that BC chose females in vulnerable positions... but who ALSO had few to none resources they could turn to...

and/or he groomed/bribed the female's family into thinking he was a great person who wanted to help the female/family out...(jobs/money/Hollywood event tickets/etc)....so the female would not be believed if she reported his heinous actions....

all... JMO...
 
why is this done over and over? I just check in every now and then don't read every post and *I* know that two posts above this someone talks about tuition being paid, other settlements have been discussed, and someone claims to have made payments on cosby's behalf...it's not a secret that money has exchanged hands -

The poster implied that Cosby was paying off people for silence and when the checks stopped they came forward. I think if one is going to make claims like that, one should back it up with sources and specifics rather than just pulling it out of thin air.

None of the people who supposedly received tuition checks are now claiming Cosby raped them.
 
I believe the idea is that BC chose females in vulnerable positions... but who ALSO had few to none resources they could turn to...

and/or he groomed/bribed the female's family into thinking he was a great person who wanted to help the female/family out...(jobs/money/Hollywood event tickets/etc)....so the female would not be believed if she reported his heinous actions....

all... JMO...

Jerry Sandusky preyed on boys from rough backgrounds who did not have a father figure in their lives. Singled them out with tickets to football games and so forth. Same MO.
 
The poster implied that Cosby was paying off people for silence and when the checks stopped they came forward. I think if one is going to make claims like that, one should back it up with sources and specifics rather than just pulling it out of thin air.

None of the people who supposedly received tuition checks are now claiming Cosby raped them.
and that could be a reasonable theory...just as yours that no one could possibly be making accusations that aren't true.
 
Some of the women say they did receive money or financial contributions at some point but I think some of it sounds more like grooming and making her dependent on his goodwill than payment for silence. The money orders to Angela Leslie were linked here but IIRC she said she got money for things like plane tickets before the assault, not after, and Barbara Bowman said he helped her get an apartment before and threw her out if it after the rape.

I wonder... if somebody had been paid silent and then decided to come out when the money stops would they say they've been paid? It might paint them as a golddigger but on the other hand, money orders throughout the years for no apparent reason might be considered a silent admission of guilt from the Cosby camp.
 
If Cosby was such a good guy, I think it would be helpful if all the young men he "helped" came forward to defend him. You know, the young men who were put up in apartments, invited to the Cosby home for dinner, whose tuitions were paid by Cosby. Surely ole Bill didn't limit his generosity to young women, did he?

JMO


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If Cosby was such a good guy, I think it would be helpful if all the young men he "helped" came forward to defend him. You know, the young men who were put up in apartments, invited to the Cosby home for dinner, whose tuitions were paid by Cosby. Surely ole Bill didn't limit his generosity to young women, did he?

JMO


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Cosby had 4 daughters (plus son who died). Maybe he just felt more comfortable with females.
 
If I were Cosby--and if I were innocent--I would take a series of polygraphs--one for each of the women who have come forward. Yes, I know they're flawed and inadmissible, but this isn't going to court. If he could "pass" a series of tests, perhaps he could help himself. Otherwise his reputation and his career are cooked according to plenty of people, myself included. If he's happy with the true believers he has left, and if he thinks his family believes him, then he can just keep denying what's been revealed.
 
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