Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #3

[Donjeta]

Oh for crying out loud.

Can the students opt out of the event?

As part of an initiative to bring awareness about the state of area schools near Selma, Ala., Cosby will speak to high school juniors and seniors from Demopolis, Ala. and Selma. Hosted by the Black Belt Community Foundation, a nonprofit working with citizens living in the 12-county “Black Belt” area, the events will include Cosby walking across the Edmund Pettus Bridge, famous for Martin Luther King Jr.’s Selma to Montgomery march, as part of a “March for Education.”

Cosby is scheduled to speak Friday morning at the Theo Ratliff Center in Demopolis, followed by a speaking engagement in the afternoon at Selma High School and the “March for Education.”

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/...Edmund-Pettus-Bridge.html#wPH8rM3E6hwKuXkq.99


http://snn.bz/cosbys-bogus-phd/
the link has a copy of Cosby's dissertation (and lots of opinions about its quality)

Personally I think the author makes a lot of claims of fact that are basically just his opinions and would need some scientific backing up. Also his spelling and punctuation are lacking.

An excerpt from page 7:

And so, children fail. They fail for a variety of reasons. All of which point to a lacksidasical attitude on the part of urban schools to change their process of education. Youngsters fail because they are afraid of failing and nothing weighs more heavily than when the right to fail is removed. Yet, this is not to say that failure is built into every effort before it is even undertaken. What it does say, however, is that every one of us should not fear failure if the effort expended has been legitimate. We must learn from our failures to achieve our successes.

Youngsters fail because they are bored. Teachers dispense sundry tasks that have only one purpose--to keep children quiet and controlled. Some teachers believe that learning is a by-product of controlled order. What is encouraged, however, is docility as the trivial tasks make no demands on children's intelligence and/or talents.

Finally children fail because most of what goes on in the classroom makes little sense. What they learn inside the classroom often contradicts what they have been told. Holt writes "it hardly ever has any relation to what they really know--to the rough model they carry around in their minds."14

The failure that minority children experience from the very outset can only reinforce the debilitating sense of worthlessness whites convey in a variety of ways and so feed the self-hatred produced by discrimination and prejudice.15 In order to achieve, schools must provide urban children with a sense of competence otherwise they will become self-limiting and defeating, and both their character and intelligence will be destroyed.

Chapter II promises a review of the related literature but first it meanders a bit (what has pass/fail grading got to do with Martin Luther King and the Vietnam war?), presents more opinions that are backed up by no literature and ends up having only a few literature references.

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/05/why_will_bill_cosby_cross_the.html

Bill Cosby is coming to Alabama this Friday. To talk with school kids. About morals and stuff. And he's going to march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma.

As a professional, I'm supposed to remain calm under the pressure of cartoon material. But sometimes I need a wingman. In this case, I need wing people. I'm throwing it out to y'all in a caption contest.

Write a caption to go with this drawing. Please make it a good one. Bill will be here Friday.

Clever and classy, please.

 

[kimi_SFC]

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/05/why_will_bill_cosby_cross_the.html

Bill Cosby is coming to Alabama this Friday. To talk with school kids. About morals and stuff. And he's going to march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma.

As a professional, I'm supposed to remain calm under the pressure of cartoon material. But sometimes I need a wingman. In this case, I need wing people. I'm throwing it out to y'all in a caption contest.

Write a caption to go with this drawing. Please make it a good one. Bill will be here Friday.

Clever and classy, please.

This is all I've got
:thud:


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[Donjeta]

Why did Bill Cosby cross the bridge?
To tell schoolkids about morals and personal responsibility.

Oh, wait...

 

[Inthedetails]

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/05/why_will_bill_cosby_cross_the.html

Bill Cosby is coming to Alabama this Friday. To talk with school kids. About morals and stuff. And he's going to march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma.

As a professional, I'm supposed to remain calm under the pressure of cartoon material. But sometimes I need a wingman. In this case, I need wing people. I'm throwing it out to y'all in a caption contest.

Write a caption to go with this drawing. Please make it a good one. Bill will be here Friday.

Clever and classy, please.

What comes to my mind is something about the ugly troll and the billy goats trying to cross the bridge. I don't know where to go with that, but maybe that will spark an idea in someone else.

 

[Donjeta]

Cosby was on Good Morning America and he spoke of the rape allegations, sort of. I can't figure out what his point is.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/bill-cosby-reality-situation-speak-31065157

http://defamer.gawker.com/rambling-bill-cosby-evades-rape-questions-in-bizarre-ab-1704688686

http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/15/bill-cosby-nightline-interview-sexual-assault-allegations-rape-video/

http://jezebel.com/watch-bill-cosby-incoherently-ramble-about-rape-allegat-1704691436

I am prepared to tell this young person the truth about life. I’m not sure that they will come like that. I think that many of them say, well, “You’re a hypocrite. You say one thing, you say the other.” My point is, okay, listen to me carefully. I’m telling you where the road is out. I’m telling you where, as you’re driving, you’re gonna go into water, and it looks like it might only be three inches deep, but you and your car are gonna go down. Now you wanna go here? Or you wanna be concerned about who’s giving you the message?

I guess he's saying that it doesn't matter that he's a serial rapist if he's giving the kiddos good advice... Or...?

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/15/bil...m_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_534822

“I have been in this business over 52 years and I have never seen anything like this,” Cosby said. “Reality is the situation. And I can’t speak.”

Cosby was joined by foundation president Felecia Lucky, who admitted the allegations made her think twice about reaching out to the comedian, but she said the most important thing is, “how do we make sure the world knows Black Belt children matter?” Today, Cosby plans to join students from Selma High School and march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge, where police attacked peaceful protesters during the famed march to Montgomery in 1965 for equal voting rights.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-years-and-ive-never-seen-anything-like-this/
So the train of thought was that having Bill Cosby attach his sordid name into their cause guarantees more widespread public attention than any less controversial person would have?

More of the interview with Linsey Davis will air on Nightline on Friday night.

http://time.com/3859968/bill-cosby-speaks-out/


http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/05/hey_hey_hey_its_the_top_10_bil.html
My people tell me marching across this bridge will improve my image. Most people think I should just jump off.

The winner might just win an inflatable pool full of Jello Pudding, suitable for fun dining or a sticky wrestling match.

https://twitter.com/LinseyDavis
Alabama students and teachers applaud and cheer Bill Cosby as he sits down to talk education @abc

http://thinkprogress.org/culture/20...-cosbys-incoherent-response-rape-allegations/

It is kind of amazing that, after all this time, Cosby still responds to questions about these allegations as if he is surprised and scandalized by their existence. Obviously, he knows this barrage of rape accusations is newsworthy and that any reasonable reporter will ask what, if anything, he wants to say in response. How does he not just have a boilerplate, go-to reply? He always appears to be scrambling for something vague and not-incriminating to say. His failure to have a clear dismissal-and-denial strategy calls to mind his sloppy written response to the revived allegations last fall: his ever-changing legal team, his contradictory statements.

 

[TTF14]

He was making no sense at all. Guilty. As. Sin.

 

[Donjeta]

I am just very surprised that there seemingly aren't any parents up in the arms because an alleged serial rapist was invited to speak to their kids about morals and values and good life and stuff.

I mean, I don't like ad hominem arguments so just because he allegedly raped dozens of women doesn't mean he is wrong when he says that kids should have an education... but can't anyone else tell them that?

How about inviting Charles Manson on a lecture tour? He could tell kids lots of valuable truths about the importance of eating healthily and exercising so why would you be concerned about who's giving the message...?

(I'll tell you why, IMO. Should some of the kids happen believe that this guy is a psychopath and a lying liar who lies, it might taint the good and wholesome message about the importance of education. If "they" can't find a honest man or woman to tell us that school is good for us, is it even true?

And which reasonable parents would want Cosby sharing space with their female child?

And because not being concerned about who's giving the message sends the message that while the Black Belt kids matter, the numerous women who were allegedly victims of rape by this man don't matter. Some of the Black Belt kids listening to this might get raped one day and then while they're deciding whether to report it or not you wouldn't like to have them remembering how everybody clapped and cheered at this alleged serial rapist because the victims are irrelevant.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeKozSjS_DU[video=youtube;PeKozSjS_DU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeKozSjS_DU[/video]


http://www.avclub.com/article/bill-cosby-responds-rape-allegations-incoherent-pr-219500

Submitting to an examination slightly less intense than Rudy faced on the average episode of The Cosby Show, Bill Cosby appeared on today’s Good Morning America, where ABC bragged he would at last “break his silence” on the more than 40 allegations of sexual assault he has refused to dignify with an answer, or anything approaching dignity. This promise proved to be true in that noise is the opposite of silence, and Cosby did indeed make noises in the general vicinity of the accusations. But for anyone expecting a direct response—or even coherence—they left disappointed.

The muddling began with ABC News’ Linsey Davis, who was formally there to talk to Cosby about his education reform campaign in Alabama. Likely wanting to avoid another NPR or Associated Press situation, Davis attempted to frame her question in the form of a hypothetical child who might want to know whether the accusations are true, because “my mom says you’ve done some bad things.” From the mouths of babes, and not ABC reporters, and so forth.

Though this resembled some sort of Voight-Kampff test to determine whether you have a conscience, the message was (sort of) clear: You should ignore the many rape allegations against Cosby, if you care at all about your car. Also, that the message is more important than the messenger, even if that message is total gibberish

http://www.vox.com/2015/5/15/8611729/bill-cosby-gma-interview

Good Morning America called this an "exclusive" interview featuring Bill Cosby's response to the more than two dozen allegations of sexual assault and misconduct against him. But that's a little misleading. While Cosby did say words in response to Linsey Davis's questions in this segment that aired Friday, he didn't answer them — at all.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...lt-claims-bizarre-interview-article-1.2223285
Bill Cosby dodges questions on sex assault allegations in bizarre interview

Accuser Angela Leslie said the remarks fell far short of what she wants to hear from the embattled comedian.

“The man was radically incoherent. He just strung together some words that had no meaning whatsoever,” she told the Daily News Friday.

“Cosby just needs to accept that he is a guilty party and he needs to apologize and seek help. He’s trying to move on as if nothing happened, and people know something happened,” Leslie said. “An apology is the only way he can redeem himself and become a better person and change the way he was.”

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Rape allegations aside, I have absolutely no idea why someone who dropped out of high school would have been invited to speak to high school students about the importance of education.

Shame on all who facilitated this event.

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...-cosby-finds-supportive-crowd-selma/27413985/

There was a fanfare planned to greet Bill Cosby as he entered Selma High School on Friday afternoon — before he arrived, the band, in uniform, blasted out a welcoming tune outside the auditorium, rehearsing. Cheerleaders looked out anxiously through the foyer glass.

Everyone at the event knew of the scandals. But many in this community Friday held steadfast to their admiration of Cosby, the man — not the tabloid fodder — saying they either did not believe the allegations made against him or that he has done so much good that it dwarfs the scandal.

Felicia Lucky, president of the Black Belt Community Foundation that invited him to Selma, acknowledged some critics of his visit had their say, but only via social media.

"We've had quite a few emails and Facebook postings about it," she said. "There are some who have had their personal opinions, but the majority of the folks in the community have embraced him."

It is quite heartwarming that a serial sexual predator can be received in a high school with so much cherishing and adoration, a true testament to the forgivingness and loving spirit of the country.

Yuck.


http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...-cosby-finds-supportive-crowd-selma/27413985/

John Harper is a Selma High School teacher from Virginia who works through the program Teach for America.
...

Like everyone else, he knew the visit wouldn't be without its critics. True or not, Harper said, the rumors are overshadowed by Cosby's legacy.

"Let's say it is true; let's say that he comes here and says something and it just blows up. That doesn't change the fact that he's impacted so many lives already," Harper said. "So yes, it is a negative thing, but it can't erase the positive that he's done. It can't erase the role he played in my life, and it can't erase the role he's trying to play in the lives of these children right now."

Sooo.... if you have designs to be a predator, be sure to embrace some charitable cause so the multiple crimes you commit will be overshadowed by the fact that you talked about pulling up your pants in high schools.

http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/05/cosby.html

"It's important for you to understand that your forefathers and foremothers, many of them, were treated so unmercifully bad because they wanted to know how to read," said Cosby. "The people who came here and then had black Africans as slaves, the first thing they nailed down in order to keep these people down was to refuse anybody, and threaten anybody's life, who wanted to try and teach them [the slaves] how to read, how to write, how to understand, how to think. Because when you do that, it frees you."

Cosby also implored attendees to recognize the importance of Selma in history, saying that while "Bloody Sunday" and the following march to Montgomery may have put it in the national spotlight, it was up to today's generation to continue pushing the city in the right direction.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Don't forget, a serial sexual predator who dropped out of high school.

Quite the ideal spokesperson to advocate education to high school students. :facepalm:

 

[Donjeta]

Yeah but he's right though... Everybody who thinks that someone must be a good person because he was on TV and you saw him speaking to high school students, desperately needs more education to teach them some critical thinking skills...

Too bad this school doesn't seem to really understand the concept.

I'm just blown away by that Harper person. If you talk to high school kids about some positive things, it can overshadow 40 sexual assaults you committed? What in the world?!!?

http://wiat.com/2015/05/15/bill-cosby-visits-alabama-speaks-to-high-school-students/

Cosby was invited to speak to the students by the Black Belt Community foundation. Cosby learned of the economic struggles facing schools in the region, and thought he could help.

“A celebrity, but not just any old celebrity. A celebrity, somebody who wants to talk about education, and I said, you go talk to everybody, make sure it’s alright, and then, I will be there,” said Cosby.

“Sometimes you may feel forgotten, but Black Belt Children matter, and I hope you value this moment- because you are in the presence of greatness,” said Felicia Lucky, Black Belt Community Foundation President.

IDK I just feel it's wrong to refer to someone who has been accused of raping multiple women as "the presence of greatness". I'm sure there's something that I'm not getting here.

 

[Donjeta]

Nightline 05/15/15: Bill Cosby Breaks Silence After Sexual Assault Allegations
The whole video here. I can't watch...
http://abc.go.com/shows/nightline/l...eaks-silence-after-sexual-assault-allegations

Bill Cosby still has nothing to say about the dozens of sexual assault allegations against him.

The embattled comedian continued dodging questions and rambling in his first interview about the accusations with ABC's "Nightline," hours after part of the pre-recorded sit-down aired on the network's “Good Morning America” Friday.

“I can’t speak on that,” the 77-year-old told reporter Lindsey Davis about his treatment in the media since women started publicly accusing him in mass last year. “I just don’t want to argue. I don’t want to talk about.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...ryptic-interview-accusation-article-1.2224486

Cosby apparently never had to worry about any such confrontation — “Nightline” interviewed several students at the Alabama schools who wholeheartedly support him. The show also filmed him giving encouraging speeches to rooms full of rapt pupils.

Black Belt President Felecia Lucky also defended her group’s choice to fall back on Cosby’s fame.

Cosby insisted he wants to sidestep all the rape talk and stay focused on his career.

That is so nice. Everyone should have a choice to sidestep all the distracting talk about the crimes they committed and stay focused on their career

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlhGjo5EYgs
[video=youtube;MlhGjo5EYgs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlhGjo5EYgs[/video]

 

[bexlex]

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...-cosby-finds-supportive-crowd-selma/27413985/






It is quite heartwarming that a serial sexual predator can be received in a high school with so much cherishing and adoration, a true testament to the forgivingness and loving spirit of the country.

Yuck.


http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...-cosby-finds-supportive-crowd-selma/27413985/


Sooo.... if you have designs to be a predator, be sure to embrace some charitable cause so the multiple crimes you commit will be overshadowed by the fact that you talked about pulling up your pants in high schools.

http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/05/cosby.html

I wasn't really baying for blood until now. Bring on the court cases, bring on the criminal/civil trial. This is a slap in the face to women everywhere.

 

[Inthedetails]

I wasn't really baying for blood until now. Bring on the court cases, bring on the criminal/civil trial. This is a slap in the face to women everywhere.

I agree (though I was angry before this incident).

What is the message to the young women in the audience?!?! You are not to be believed, you are available for the taking, you're stupid if it happens to you, you're a liar if you tell your story, you're a liar if you don't tell your story, you're a money-grubbing liar if you don't tell your story fast enough, you wanted it, you imagined it, you're naive if you think you can avoid it.

And the message to the young men: If you're successful and have money, you can do anything you want.

 

[nomoresorrow]

I have no doubt as to his guilt; 15 + woman don't just come out of the woodwork making claims such as this; claims they know - years past - will have no physical evidence to back them up and, as a result, be scrutinized and disbelieved by many. If this was about money, they could definitely find an easier path. And yeah, the fact that BC was referred to as being in "the presence of greatness" by the president of the BB foundation and continues to receive standing ovations at appearances is disturbing. It serves to further validate and emphasize the fact that we are a rape-culture and a culture that continues to devalue and disbelieve women over men in general, and especially wealthy powerful men. I applaud Netflix and NBC for their decisions and hope more will follow suit because that will be the only form of retribution likely ever seen - BC will never admit to his crimes - he would lose everything.

JMO ~

 

[Quiet Time]

Has anyone seen his wife standing by him denying these claims? and validating what a great and charitable person he is??

Sarcasm***

 

[wendiesan]

IMO, Felicia Lucky wanted to draw attention to her group and her aims in any way she could.
BC needed something to deflect the accusations and distract those people sitting on the fence about the allegations regarding his behaviour regarding the people with whom he worked, the people who thought he would mentor them. He wanted a public forum which would mean great photo ops, positive p.r., and an excuse to avoid questions about his past.

A perfect match.

She gets a huge public profile, and it costs her nothing except her reputation in some circles. BC might even have made a tax deductible donation to her organization.

BC can point to his concern and involvement with the community.

The has nothing to do with whatever may be the actual content of his presentation (or lack thereof). It is all about optics. Smoke and mirrors.

 

[Donjeta]

I think Cosby might be well on his way to being rehabilitated.

WTOK reporters had a chance to talk to him, and what did they ask him about?

BB King.
http://www.wtok.com/home/headlines/Bill-Cosby-Remembers-BB-King-304025621.html

 

[Donjeta]

Has anyone seen his wife standing by him denying these claims? and validating what a great and charitable person he is??

Sarcasm***

She did publish a statement saying he's Cliff Huxtable:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-cosbys-wife-camille-speaks-up/