Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #3

[cady]

Somewhere in that deposition, he remarked that he cut the drug into three because they were very long. A friend who ate Rorer Quaaludes back in the 70's told me that they were round and larger than M&M's and white. I suspect that BC's drug supply was NOT all prescription drugs, rather, street drugs. My friend said that she never lost consciousness and did consume alcohol with the drug. I really am thinking that there is more to BC's crimes than rape. I don't know what the DEA can learn, at this late date, but perhaps BC had his own personal chemist. JMO Also, I wonder about the statute of limitations on manufacture and sale and possession of unkosher drugs is......those drugs can still be out there to harm or kill 40 years after their manufacture!!!!

 

[bexlex]

Forty eight women. Forty eight women! That was a slap in the face to every woman walking around. Forty eight is NO coincidence! I sincerely hope, that if this happens again, women won't be afraid to come forward. I bet there are more than a dozen women holding back, because they seen the backlash for the one's that did come forward. SMH.

When my MIL said "Well, these women are always looking for a payout. We can't know if it's true or not" That said it all about the mindset of some people. I should note that her children are all male....so perhaps that is part of her perspective.....

 

[La Louve]

Somewhere in that deposition, he remarked that he cut the drug into three because they were very long. A friend who ate Rorer Quaaludes back in the 70's told me that they were round and larger than M&M's and white. I suspect that BC's drug supply was NOT all prescription drugs, rather, street drugs. My friend said that she never lost consciousness and did consume alcohol with the drug. I really am thinking that there is more to BC's crimes than rape. I don't know what the DEA can learn, at this late date, but perhaps BC had his own personal chemist. JMO Also, I wonder about the statute of limitations on manufacture and sale and possession of unkosher drugs is......those drugs can still be out there to harm or kill 40 years after their manufacture!!!!

BBM I have my suspicions too. I find it hard to believe with his 40+ years of being a drugging rapist that one of his victims didn't experience life threatening effects of the drugs.

ETA My hunch on where the quaalude prescriptions were coming from is through a Playboy Mansion connection. Interesting and disturbing article about a woman who was the daughter of Hef's physician and considered the Playboy Mansion her second home. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/3645512/My-Playboy-youth-sex-drugs-guns.html

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

I keep remembering how one of the ladies stated that there three or four men present when she arrived at BC's room and they were gone when she regained consciousness. Scary stuff.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

IMO they should apologize to the women they called liars or insane or said were in it for the attention and fame. Maybe don't apologize to being a good friend but apologize to the victims. Especially because right now rape victims go through hell after they've accused someone. Everyone (Bill's supporters included) made a huge deal about the girl in Virginia when she made false accusations and people need to be reminded that is more often the exception. Bill's friends coming forward and apologizing and saying the opposite of what they said (most accusations are founded) might just maybe help people not so harshly judge women when they do report rape.

If they called them names and such.. Maybe an apology is due. The truth is that we have a pattern of behavior but we don't have evidence that he participated in attacks on all the women. So there are still going to be people that doubt every single story. I still don't know what I think about each and every report but I do believe that in this case the smoke is from a fire he set. I don't know if he hurt each of these women, But I am pretty sure that by his own admission he admitted to doing this to at least a few women back then and he should be punished..

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

BBM I have my suspicions too. I find it hard to believe with his 40+ years of being a drugging rapist that one of his victims didn't experience life threatening effects of the drugs.

ETA My hunch on where the quaalude prescriptions were coming from is through a Playboy Mansion connection. Interesting and disturbing article about a woman who was the daughter of Hef's physician and considered the Playboy Mansion her second home. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/3645512/My-Playboy-youth-sex-drugs-guns.html

I just read the the first two paragraphs and my stomach is churning ......good Lord.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

EXCLUSIVE: Cops close in on Bill Cosby as they prepare to question woman who says he drugged and attacked her at Playboy Mansion in 2008 - within statute of limitations

Chloe Goins alleges the comic spiked her drink then launched a sex assault when they met at a party at Hugh Hefner's home

Los Angeles police have told her lawyer their investigation is 'open' and they are expected to speak to Goins

Development comes after court documents revealed Cosby admitted drugging a woman for sex

Goins tells Daily Mail Online: 'I'm very relieved everyone now knows I've spoken the truth.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ansion-statute-limitations.html#ixzz3fLFUkp9Y

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

EXCLUSIVE: Cops close in on Bill Cosby as they prepare to question woman who says he drugged and attacked her at Playboy Mansion in 2008 - within statute of limitations

Chloe Goins alleges the comic spiked her drink then launched a sex assault when they met at a party at Hugh Hefner's home

Los Angeles police have told her lawyer their investigation is 'open' and they are expected to speak to Goins

Development comes after court documents revealed Cosby admitted drugging a woman for sex

Goins tells Daily Mail Online: 'I'm very relieved everyone now knows I've spoken the truth.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ansion-statute-limitations.html#ixzz3fLFUkp9Y

Hopefully if this is true they will go look at it.
I so wish all of these women would have come forward when this happened. It would make it so much easier to get someone for a crime like this.
If he did this, Criminally I hope they get him.

 

[IndianSummer]

I am so glad the statue of limitations has not run out for Chloe Goins.
BC is such a narcissist. I'm sure he thinks he can out smart this...
otherwise I'd fear him exiting before this is all over.
JMO

 

[Hatfield]

BBM I have my suspicions too. I find it hard to believe with his 40+ years of being a drugging rapist that one of his victims didn't experience life threatening effects of the drugs.

ETA My hunch on where the quaalude prescriptions were coming from is through a Playboy Mansion connection. Interesting and disturbing article about a woman who was the daughter of Hef's physician and considered the Playboy Mansion her second home. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/3645512/My-Playboy-youth-sex-drugs-guns.html

IMO
Totally agree after reading the article. It makes perfect sense that BC probably made some sort of a connection with a supplier from his visits to the mansion.

The girl that wrote the book also mentions qualudes.

 

[Hatfield]

Somewhere in that deposition, he remarked that he cut the drug into three because they were very long. A friend who ate Rorer Quaaludes back in the 70's told me that they were round and larger than M&M's and white. I suspect that BC's drug supply was NOT all prescription drugs, rather, street drugs. My friend said that she never lost consciousness and did consume alcohol with the drug. I really am thinking that there is more to BC's crimes than rape. I don't know what the DEA can learn, at this late date, but perhaps BC had his own personal chemist. JMO Also, I wonder about the statute of limitations on manufacture and sale and possession of unkosher drugs is......those drugs can still be out there to harm or kill 40 years after their manufacture!!!!

Re BBM

Your friend is correct that real Quaaludes were a rather large white round tablet with "Rorer 714" printed on them. The link below has a picture of what the originals looked like next to a prescription bottle of them.

So you could also be right that maybe BC was getting street drugs too if he was not lying in his deposition about them being very long and having to cut them in thirds because there is no way that description would be a real quaallude. So if BC was not lying about them being long, then there is no telling what other substances he was giving the girls to knock them out.

Maybe he used real quaaludes at times and other times other pills when he didnt have real ones handy. I am sure someone of his prestige did not have too much trouble getting someone to supply him whatever he was asking for.

http://www.feelnumb.com/2014/10/11/jimmy-page-led-zeppelin-quaalude-shirt-rorer-714/

 

[KEVINinTO]

Canadian woman at the center of the allegations against BC has asked a court to unseal all of the court documents pertaining to the out-of-court settlement

A Canadian woman at the centre of sexual assault allegations against comedian Bill Cosby accused him on Wednesday of violating a confidentiality agreement in their 2005 lawsuit, and asked a court to make public his entire testimony.

Andrea Constand, a former Temple University employee, filed court papers in Pennsylvania district court, also accusing Cosby and his advisers of manipulating the media through interviews and statements about the slew of sex assault allegations against him.

The lawsuit was filed two days after a Pennsylvania judge unsealed testimony in Constand's 2005 civil lawsuit against Cosby, in which the actor said he had obtained Quaaludes with the intent of giving the sedatives to young women in order to have sex with them.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/bill-co...eposition-to-be-made-public-1.3144272?cmp=rss

 

[Montjoy]

The truth is that we have a pattern of behavior but we don't have evidence that he participated in attacks on all the women.

Sure we do. We have direct evidence, in fact, that he participated in the sexual assaults. It's called victim testimony.

If your daughter was groped by someone, with no forensic evidence and no other witnesses, would you discredit her testimony? No? Neither would the other posters here. But it's your right to do so, as you have done with Cosby's victims. I just can't condone it, myself. Rape victims have always had a hard time being believed, which is a big reason why so much rape goes unreported.

 

[bluesneakers]

Sure we do. We have direct evidence, in fact, that he participated in the sexual assaults. It's called victim testimony.

If your daughter was groped by someone, with no forensic evidence and no other witnesses, would you discredit her testimony? Neither would the other posters here. But it's your right to do so. I just can't condone it, myself. Rape victims have always had a hard time being believed, which is a big reason why so much rape goes unreported.

I watched the clip of Whoopi today and she said something about mothers of sons protecting them, but I wish some could ask her what about mothers of daughters? If you're the mother of a rape victim just wait patiently because innocent until proven guilt and your daughter is probably lying anyway. Our sons are more important.

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-cosby-dropped-caa_559dcec5e4b01c2162a5dcdd

Bill Cosby has been dumped by his talent agency, CAA, and is currently without representation, according to Deadline Hollywood.

Despite the grim subject matter I appreciate the pun:

Cos And Effect: Dropped Months Ago By CAA, Bill Cosby Is Un-Repped In Hollywood
http://deadline.com/2015/07/bill-cosby-caa-dropped-by-talent-agency-1201471839/

Cosby made a splash when he moved to CAA in 2012 after being represented by the William Morris Agency for 48 years.

http://time.com/3950555/bill-cosby-white-house-revoke-presidential-medal/

A sexual violence awareness group is demanding that the White House revoke Bill Cosby’s Presidential Medal of Freedom, in light of the sexual assault allegations against him.
...
Cosby received the medal in 2002 from President George W. Bush.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ke-bill-cosbys-presidential-medal-of-freedom/


White House press secretary Josh Earnest said he doesn’t know if it’s possible to revoke Bill Cosby’s Presidential Medal of Freedom amid the latest round of disturbing revelations about the disgraced comedian.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama-urged-to-revoke-bill-cosbys-medal-of-freedom/article/2567829

"The presidential medal of freedom is the highest honor award to an American civilian," said Angela Rose, executive director of the group. "The list of those receiving this honor include America's finest citizens – from Mother Teresa to Eunice Kennedy Shriver to Meryl Streep. Bill Cosby's name does not belong among this distinguished list."

Barbara Bowman is involved in the petition:

Some of the awards to be targeted by Bowman and PAVE are the NAACP Image Award, given to Cosby on multiple occasions (in 1967, 1992, 2001 and 2007). The NAACP also gave an award to former President Bill Clinton in 2001.

"The man should not disgrace that award by having it," Bowman said. "It's disgraceful to the integrity of the award and to the recipients who deserve it. It's a slap in the face."

Bill Cosby, dead to us
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/editorial-bill-cosby-dead-article-1.2284595

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...on-bill-cosby-lapd-confirms/story?id=32300228

“The only reason Mr. Cosby settled was because it would have been embarrassing in those days to put all those women on the stand and his family had no clue,” a source close to Cosby told ABC News. “That would have been very hurtful.” The “Cosby Show Star” has never been charged criminally in connection with those allegations or other allegations by more than two dozen women who say Cosby drugged or sexually abused them.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Say goodnight, Bill.

 

[Donjeta]

In documents filed Wednesday and obtained by EW, Andrea Constand says Cosby and his legal team violated the confidentiality agreement they made in the 2006 settlement of the case, which also includes the 13 “Jane Doe” witnesses in her 2005 lawsuit, many of whom have come forward in recent months. She also seeks relief from provisions of the agreement that “prohibit her from making fair response to the numerous and inaccurate statements and innuendos” made by Cosby and his team.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/08/bill-cosby-faces-another-lawsuit

 

[wendiesan]

http://www.hometownstations.com/story/29493795/bill-cosbys-public-moralizing-was-his-undoing
Public moralizing was his undoing. Did you see in one of the posted articles that he offered to pay for Constand's education provided she maintain 3.0 GPA.... ever the education defender That seems just a slap in the face imo, for a rape victim having to report to the rapist about her educational success...

This is, IMO, a sickening perversion of justice.

Of course it was a slap in Miss Constand's face. It is also perfectly in keeping with BC's need to control other people, IMO. The setting of a 3.0 GPA implies that Miss Constand would not put in her best effort in the course work if he did not tie the money to proof of performance. In a demonstration of one of the classic characteristics of an abuser, BC uses this demand to belittle Miss Constand's academic achievements. Of course BC's abuse of Miss Constand began, IIRC, with BC fraudulently offering to be her mentor. So this little requirement allows him to perpetuate his lie. At a glance, it could seem that he was giving her a bursary or scholarship by claiming to have a goal of scholastic achievement. Again, IMO, the 3.0 GPA demand also moves the giving of money from a penance or punishment for his heinous behaviour to being a form of his largesse. Instead of being immediately seen as a form of compensation for the pain and suffering which he caused Miss Constand to undergo, and, therefore, proof that BC was guilty of rape, the addition of that little caveat makes BC seem as to be a stern but generous benefactor.

Through this device, in my opinion, BC is keeping Miss Constand within his sphere of influence. He keeps his place of power and influence which is far beyond her position. Just another reminder that even if she's had a tiny victory, he holds the opportunity to have yet another huge negative impact in her personal and professional life. The condition of maintaining a 3.0 GPA is, I believe, nothing more than a poorly veiled threat--a form of blackmail, another kind of abuse. Miss Constand must please BC in order to receive the financial compensation which he has agreed to give her. If he cannot demand that she sexually please him, then she must meet his terms in her academic life. And, an added bonus, he can always claim some credit for her achievements because, after all, he paid for her education.

As well, this reinforces what seems to be BC's rigid stereotypical gender roles--a classic characteristic of abusers, IIRC. He, being the man, is allowed to set the rules for the woman to follow. She must prove her worthiness to him. Instead of apologizing and grovelling and begging for forgiveness, BC demands to be recognized as an authority figure in Miss Constand's life. He is also reserving the right to pull back that money should she not meet his standards. The standards set by a man who bought his degree! IMO.

He's a control freak. He's an abuser--giving women drugs without their knowledge or consent, as IMO happened with Miss Constand, is not only "abusive" it is violent. It is potentially homicidal. Not only is BC not really an educator, he's not a medical authority and unlikely to be able to recognize the symptoms of a bad reaction to drugs, or an overdose. In a demonstration of yet another characteristic of abusers, BC appears to have indulged in acting out fantasies in which his victims were helpless. Such as would be the case when a woman is unconscious after being given the equivalent of a date rape drug. He has, through his actions, recklessly endangered Miss Constand's life.

Please note, in this post I've been referring to a document from the Independent Living Resource Centre for Thunder Bay and the Northwestern Ontario region.
http://www.ilrctbay.com/upload/custom/abuse/content/abusers.htm

 

[Donjeta]

http://video.foxnews.com/v/43447038...new-of-bill-cosbys-propensity/?#sp=show-clips

Jimmie Walker: Everybody knew of Bill Cosby's 'propensity'

Jul. 08, 2015 - 6:40 - Former Cosby co-star and comedian weighs in

To be clear, he's saying that everybody knew he was a womanizer, not necessarily the drugs and rape thing

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

http://video.foxnews.com/v/43447038...new-of-bill-cosbys-propensity/?#sp=show-clips

Jimmie Walker: Everybody knew of Bill Cosby's 'propensity'

Jul. 08, 2015 - 6:40 - Former Cosby co-star and comedian weighs in

To be clear, he's saying that everybody knew he was a womanizer, not necessarily the drugs and rape thing

Thanks for posting that Donjeta. (I love Shep Smith!)