Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #3

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justbetweenus said:
I followed those words closely a few times during the press conference when reporters were asking the whereabouts of JS. The officer kept saying he could not disclose his whereabouts at this time, but constantly was in touch with investigators. Then asked again he repeats the same with adding they did not want to impede the investigation, My take was that while the press conference was going on JS was being interrogated.Probally was for a long time too.

I doubt he would be able to run to Rebecca because of the scene being taped.

jmo
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He was at the Hospital with Max, Max was not dead yet
 
Julessleuther said:
I read through all the posts and did not see this mentioned....

Perhaps the sister, who was at the house (and then whisked away) did something on purpose to the boy, and he was killed. Perhaps Rebecca did not want to remain quiet about the incident, and was killed to silence her. That is the only reason I can think of to have the sister removed from the situation so quickly and sent away.

The airport is about 20-25 minutes from the Spreckels mansion, depending on bridge traffic.

We were in Coronado for the week when this was all going on, and honestly, other than outside of the Spreckel's Mansion, you would not know there was a crime. We did not stay at the Dell, so did not watch the comings and goings all the time, but the village seemed the same as usual.
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OMG this was my first thought when I first heard the reports of AS's sister GS there and then sent to SC very quickly. It seemed odd to me to send her away so quickly. I understand they may have wanted her "out of the way" because the Dad would be at the hospital, but to leave that quickly gave me a little start (that is IF it is true!). I got a little chill and a thought that maybe the teen girl (whoever it was - whether GS or the sister of Rebecca) perhaps was the cause whether on purpose or indirectly. If it was Rebecca's sister, she may have taken the full blame upon herself as she was still the responsible adult in the house.

I'm still more swayed to murder, but I have not ruled out the possibility of suicide. I can easily go both ways at this point - having 2 pretty strong scenerios in my mind.

However, it does speak volumes to me, too, that JS has not ONCE mentioned ANYTHING about Rebecca losing her life whether by suicide or by murder. This keeps red flags up for me!
 
scorekeeper said:
Thanks, Paladine......time and I were wondering what article said JS was in San Diego and when......but this says "san diego county"....wth......and staying where???........i thought his a$$ never left the hospital.......
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Maybe this is why they are reviewing hospital tapes...they can at least pin down when here was there, hopefully.
 
Lawgirl said:
Hmmmm they say she was really fit and strong. Maybe she was showing the kids how to plank...just to be on the same page with them ...to score brownie points and then accidentlly Maxie hurts himself.
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I also feel that if it was murder, surely, there would be some defensive wounds? Skin under nails? Scratches? That would be a brutal way to kill someone, and if she was strong she would have fought like hell. UNLESS SHE WAS DRUGGED!! So it's important we get tox soon!!!
 
justbetweenus said:
I followed those words closely a few times during the press conference when reporters were asking the whereabouts of JS. The officer kept saying he could not disclose his whereabouts at this time, but constantly was in touch with investigators. Then asked again he repeats the same with adding they did not want to impede the investigation, My take was that while the press conference was going on JS was being interrogated.Probally was for a long time too.

I doubt he would be able to run to Rebecca because of the scene being taped.

jmo
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-mystery_n.htm

Quote:
Jonah Shacknai was in San Diego County when her body was found, Frank said. "We're not disclosing where he was staying ," he added.

Sgt Frank gave a pretty cagy answer to that question. San Diego County covers a lot of territory, including Rady Hospital- and the City of Coronado.
 
justbetweenus said:
Could this be a guesthouse at Dina's place? That's how I first read it.
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I saw a video on HLN and one of the other shows (I'm sorry!!! I don't have a link)...Dina has her own house down the block a very short distance from the mansion - but was not at the mansion! The house is brown and looks totally different. I will try to find a link.
 
(Monday 6:15 PM) CNN Headline News just had their three "experts" on live to bring viewers up to date on latest news in the death of RN. It was revealed "that JS attended her funeral on Sunday" .. "that police have ruled nothing out" ... there are "No suspects as of yet" ... "In an act of anger women never commit suicide naked" .. "RN was possibly bound earlier then hung" ... and ... "The solution to this mystery is eminent."

So much for today's media hype ..
 
No link between poor Max Shacknai’s fatal fall and the horrifying tableau two days later?

I’d bet that in the mansion’s hundred-year life span not one event rivals either one of these deaths. And we’re to believe that two bolts of lightning could strike in a two-day span without any direct cause-and-effect?

Experts solemnly remind us that suicides can be staged to look like homicides, and vice versa. Don’t leap to conclusions, they intone.

But those of us with hearts of Steel can’t help ourselves.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/24/aftermath-coronado-mansion-deaths-some-it-noir/

some interesting comments........
 
Paladine said:
An older report, posted July 13th/updated July 15th:



You hear your love, the woman in your life, has been found HANGING and DEAD at your home, wrapped in electrical cord...do you RUN to her? Or do you "stay in constant contact" with investigators?



Makes it sound rather non-committed, to me...
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Well, if your kid is fighting for his life in a hospital, you may not run home to your wife.

Sabrina2011 said:
He was at the Hospital with Max, Max was not dead yet
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Bumping this last quote. The father, according to the L.A. Times, was round' the clock at his son's bedside, after Max fell. He was there with his second wife Dina. They never left his bedside. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-jonah-shacknai-20110725,0,5072719.story

Rebecca died after Max was seriously injured but before Max succumbed to his injuries. Max died after Rebecca did.

I understand a father being so consumed by his son's precarious situation and grave injuries that he does not break from his bedside to comment on his third wife's death or get involved in her funeral arrangements, etc. If it was me, my child would be so much more important at that moment. So his absence and lack of any kind of statement are not red flags to me. He was probably in shock, intense fear and single-minded vigilance at the time of Rebecca's death.

That being said, the whole thing stinks. I suppose it is possible that, for example, Rebecca was caring for Max when he fell and felt so guilty, as if it was her fault due to perceived negligence or something, that she took her own life. But why was she naked and why were her hands and feet bound?

It also possible that Shacknai's brother, in a rage over the little boy's accident, blamed her and sought revenge.

Or, possibly, either Dina or Shacknai could have taken a little break, in grief-filled rage, from their son's bedside, and went after Rebecca.

I think the reports from the hospital will really help.

It is a tragic and weird case, all around.
 
scorekeeper said:
The Spreckels estate is the main house and a guest house totaling 27 rooms including a northeast wing with two apartments and a six-car garage
http://www.luxist.com/tag/spreckels+mansion/

This one has some inside older pictures...... http://www.luxist.com/2006/02/17/the-speckels-mansion-estate-of-the-day/

BBM

Didn't they say that LE also removed items from the garage......

The previous floor plan doesn't show the garage....
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Yes, wonder what was of interest in the garage.
Matching cords perhaps.

IMO
 
The estate comprises a main house of 27 rooms, an exquisite guest house of 12 rooms and a North East Wing with 2 apartments and a 6-car garage

http://www.trulia.com/property/1039341000-1043-Ocean-Blvd-Coronado-CA-92118

This place is enormous (sp)!!!!! So I do wonder if others where staying there also.
And as previously stated by a lot of us.......no maids, cooks, butler, grounds keeper, etc.........something ain't right........
 
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