Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #3

[Charlie09]

I wonder if there is increased security on any other people close to him (his other children, or exes)

 

[arielilane]

it has been said a few times in these threads that it would be possible, along with pretty detailed descriptions of how it'd be possible. though at this juncture i'm going to reserve judgment on how plausible it'd be

I am attempting to read back the threads. I just can't see it unless you are Houdini. :truce:

 

[Hunnydolll]

Excellent point. Was DS bringing charges against her?

Could be she felt a lot of heat - whether blame from JS or DS or both. Whether it was her fault, her little sis's fault, DS fault - but she was the responsible adult. Maybe they threatened that MS was brain dead and would die and she would be to blame?! Told to leave the house...etc. She hired an attorney, but who knows at this point! To many unanswered questions.

I just don't know...I think right now I'm 70/30 more towards murder than suicide. I can see both scenerios pretty clearly in my mind.

 

[scorekeeper]

Is he under obligation to tell the truth about who he is representing?

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

A defense attorney tell the truth? Have you heard of Jose Baez....

Charlie09, no offense against you (or any of the great defense attorneys out there) but the trial in Florida is still fresh in my mind.....

score

 

[Carpe Pacem]

Wondering how long it would take to review the Children's Hospital CCTV, and what would happen should either parent be seen leaving for a time...

 

[lauriej]

I swear...I had the same thought moments ago.

Let's take her at her word. SHE told kennel dude it was so she could go to the hospital...the puppy was 11 or 14 months old, iirc...maybe not fully house trained...or maybe he/she needed frequent potty breaks, hence the kennel.

So, asking Rebecca to bring the puppy to the boarders would seem reasonable to her, I'd think...but also if he just asked her to come to hospital, he might have known it meant boarding the dog? Maybe it was discussed when they let the staff have days off...'we'll be busy, let the staff go, board the dog', kinda deal.

BUT the dog didn't have shots, I read, (from kennel dude interview, no link) so the delay was so the dog could get shots before boarding. That tells me boarding might not have been something they regularily did...most kennels, if not all, require proof of up-to-date vaccination.

Strange, though, that she died the very first night the dog was gone...

From the pictures we've seen, Dina doesn't like dog bites.

http://coronado.patch.com/articles/...ls-victim-less-than-24-hours-before-her-death
Local Kennel Owner Saw Spreckels Victim Less Than 24 Hours Before Her Death
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She had called his kennel, Camp Diggity Dogs, to pick up Ocean, the family’s 14-month-old Weimaraner the afternoon following the Monday accident that left her boyfriend's son with serious injuries.

“She called about 4:40 pm,” he said. “She told me about the accident and said that her daughter was also injured.”
--------(-i've wondered about THAT stmt. ever since he said it...)

Greenberg picked up the dog at 8:45 a.m. that (Tuesday) morning. He described Nalepa as “sweet and nice, but subdued.” When he talked to her on Monday, she broke down and cried a couple of times, but by Tuesday there was just sadness in her voice.

 

[Quester]

I am attempting to read back the threads. I just can't see it unless you are Houdini. :truce:

Take particular note of "anyoldtime48" 's posts.

It seems possible that it could be done.

 

[arielilane]

Maybe, as we have discussed before, the dog jumped on or tripped MS which contributed to his accident. Maybe RN got a call from JS expressing DS's rage over the dog. He told her to board the dog, because DS had made threats about it. Or is DS was the mystery women in the car the morning of the accident and made threats directly to RN, so maybe RN wanted to protect the dog and took it upon herself to get the dog out of the house.

Maybe she thought she could go to the hospital, since she was such an important part of MS and JS's life. But realized it was too hard on DS or that the ICU would not let her sit bedside since not the immediate parent.

Or maybe JS told her to get the dog out of the house, so there would be no witnesses.

However, I recall from a tv interview that Doggy Day Camp reported JS called and facilitated the pick up of the dog.

All this is speculation and that is all we are going to get, until police make an arrest or they release more information!

Maybe a certain someone wanted the dog out of the residence because she knew she was coming over for revenge. She knows that JS's dogs will attack from prior experience.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Since it was an accident; RN had nothing to be guilt about.

That has never stopped someone from having guilt though. She may have felt insurmountable guilt because she wasnt right there to prevent it. She may have felt guilt because she was the adult there yet Maxie got gravely injured on her 'watch'.

Whether it was warranted or not I can see her having a lot of guilt over the seriousness of it and including a child she evidently loved dearly too.

IMO

 

[sdcali]

FWIW this is a comment on SOSD news article today:

"The story I got from a Coronado local on Sat. was that the boy had a ball caught in the chandelier and couldn't get it out. . .so he's reaching in to grab it, pulls it out and falls back and slams his head on the wall."

 

[Sandrine]

Had wanted to comment Re: Jaxson's post on all the wild speculation going on here --that I heartily agree. I mean yes, we can write a whole mystery around the few details released thus far, but we are doing worse than speculating; we are fabricating.

These events are personal tragedies for those involved. So far, there is no evidence of a crime--only matters not yet explained due to ongoing investigation. That there is some investigation in no way implies a crime has been committed. It just means professionals are dong their job.

Re: tent. Had a tent been put up, the scene would have been compromised. Evidence will be covered up (and yes, a body is evidence) as a last resort due to rain or other potential for scene obstruction that threatens preservation of evidence in its most natural state. Tents are not put up willy-nilly to protect the modesty of deceased victims of crime, accident, or self-harm. Scene-control is not supposed to include scene tampering. LE is not responsible for or in charge of the media. The media does have rights.

Finally, we sleuthers don't know anything much about RN and JS's relationship, the family, or ANY of the so-called major "players."

 

[arielilane]

Another what if...

This is a long shot & maybe I've read too many True Crime stories,
but here goes my latest theory:

What if MS did not like RN and felt she caused his parents' divorce &
broke up his family. Did DS tell MS how horrible she was? Was MS a
"little monster" to RN? Did she have trouble getting along with him?

If so, this may have been what caused trouble between RN & JS
(if there actually was trouble). Maybe JS decided, since they couldn't
all get along, and/or his son said how much he disliked RN, or made up
stories about her..... JS decided he had to break it off with RN.

The break-up devasted RN to the point she decided to kill herself &
make it as dramatic as possible.... or to make it look like it was a murder.
But before she killed herself, she decided to take MS out with her...
as a way to get back at JS.

My only problem with this theory is:
Why would she wait so long between the 2 killings? Did she have them both
planned for the same day, but something happened that she couldn't take her
own life the same day. Like maybe the kenneling the dog issue?

No, jmo- I think MS probably had a good relationship with RN and that was another thing that bugged DS.

 

[Lawgirl]

good point. But why not make a statement? He has been very quiet.

I imagine he wakes up these days to a world of numbness. He opens his eyes and he's still in the nightmare -- one that will never end. His precious child is gone, and the woman he was planning to "spend the rest of his life with" is also gone. No matter what his role is in this saga, I imagine he's very empty inside -- a very desolate place.

I remember someone who once lost his son in an accident, and he told me "he was my Plan A, I didn't have a plan B." --

 

[Paladine]

BBM - You know - I though about that - but got stuck on a follow-up question:

Why would a company (Medicis) hire a "defense" attorney?

Medicis would only be interested in the interest of the company and how a personal scandal of an employee/founder would affect the company -> therefore a definite need for a corporate attorney.

But, "defense" attorney? - my guess: no.

Again - I am not an attorney.

Attorney Profile Overview
Practice Area:
•Business Litigation
•Health Care
•Products Liability
•Criminal Law.
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http://findattorneyontheweb.com/lawyer/paul-j-pfingst

 

[Hunnydolll]

That has never stopped someone from having guilt though. She may have felt insurmountable guilt because she wasnt right there to prevent it. She may have felt guilt because she was the adult there yet Maxie got gravely injured on her 'watch'.

Whether it was warranted or not I can see her having a lot of guilt over the seriousness of it and including a child she evidently loved dearly too.

IMO

And perhaps she realized her relationship with JS would never be the same regardless of whose fault it was, and she couldn't live with it??

 

[Hunnydolll]

FWIW this is a comment on SOSD news article today:

"The story I got from a Coronado local on Sat. was that the boy had a ball caught in the chandelier and couldn't get it out. . .so he's reaching in to grab it, pulls it out and falls back and slams his head on the wall."

I can absolutely see this scenario. Wonder if they heard a "rumor" standing around outside the house.

 

[Quester]

http://findattorneyontheweb.com/lawyer/paul-j-pfingst

Thanks Paladine but I think I'm missing your point.

Can you please explain. Thx

 

[lauriej]

MS falls from the staircase, from what I have read, it seems from the top of the staircase, over the railing, upper balcony as apposed to down the stairs.

RN is hanging from a balcony

Is there some kind of message there?

..when LE returned with the 2nd S/W friday july 15th, they appear to be using the "blue light" on the 'upper' staircase area--

--upper staircase--

-

--lower staircase--

 

[Paladine]

Thank Paladine but I think I'm missing your point.

Can you please explain. Thx

Sure. He practices product liability law, health care, business litigation...then criminal law is mentioned. You had doubted a criminal lawyer representing a company; I suggest, he's not primarily a criminal lawyer, according to his profile.

(I actually saw something that tied him further to Medicis...but I might not have the time to find the link, so I simply posted this much; this much, we have a link for)

 

[MizStery]

Now how weird is this? We all know the marriage of DS and JS was tumultuous.

But,this is as odd as a $3 bill(wife #1 quoted below)
JS and KS married the following year in Beverly Hills, but the union didn’t last. She told a psychologist that while on their honeymoon, Shacknai asked her if she thought the marriage was a mistake, according to court records filed in Maricopa County, Ariz.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/16/spreckels-mansion-owner-described-go-getter/?ap

Now,I am trying to come up with a scenario for above. Here goes,Imagine laying in bed with your new husband believing this the happiest day of your life. Out of nowhere he turns to you with a question,"do you think this is a mistake".
What a narcistic SOB. The description of him being arrogant is the understatement of the century.:loser: