Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #3

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Had wanted to comment Re: Jaxson's post on all the wild speculation going on here --that I heartily agree. I mean yes, we can write a whole mystery around the few details released thus far, but we are doing worse than speculating; we are fabricating.

These events are personal tragedies for those involved. So far, there is no evidence of a crime--only matters not yet explained due to ongoing investigation. That there is some investigation in no way implies a crime has been committed. It just means professionals are dong their job.

Re: tent. Had a tent been put up, the scene would have been compromised. Evidence will be covered up (and yes, a body is evidence) as a last resort due to rain or other potential for scene obstruction that threatens preservation of evidence in its most natural state. Tents are not put up willy-nilly to protect the modesty of deceased victims of crime, accident, or self-harm. Scene-control is not supposed to include scene tampering. LE is not responsible for or in charge of the media. The media does have rights.

Finally, we sleuthers don't know anything much about RN and JS's relationship, the family, or ANY of the so-called major "players."

Is this your opinion or someone else's? I think we do not have a lot of info we need, but I think we know more about these people than I probably know about any of my own cousins or maybe even my brother and sister!

If you don't think we have enough info how could you possibly come to the conclusion Rebecca committed suicide and had the strongest motive?

What about her family grieving?

And, from the looks of it, Jonah and Dina knew pretty early on (my opinion) that Max was essentially already gone.

07-23-2011, 12:38 PM
Sandrine

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Person with the strongest motive? RN. The others might blame/hate her later, but right now they are in shock and grief, occupied at the hospital, and far too involved in just processing grief moment by moment to send Ninja assassins in. That kind of revenge response is usually longer in the works. But we have a lot of knowledge of the on-the-spot suicide when a family member has just accidentally shot a loved one.
Person to benefit? RN. Imagine her misery and anticipation of more to come.

Why would a murderer trying to stage this not untie her feet or hands so that we all wouldn't be raising these questions?

Impossible to kill herself this way? She could be extremely fit, well-coordinated, pliable etc. Look what Yoga has done for Madonna, the martial arts for others. And the experts say this is not the first time suicide has been committed in this manner.

I think there is a strong statement in the manner and possibly a ritualistic aspect.

 

[Charlie09]

I'm good at finding people, but not so much info on companies, have there been any deaths due to any of the products JS's company makes?

 

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Sure. He practices product liability law, health care, business litigation...then criminal law is mentioned. You had doubted a criminal lawyer representing a company; I suggest, he's not primarily a criminal lawyer, according to his profile.

(I actually saw something that tied him further to Medicis...but I might not have the time to find the link, so I simply posted this much; this much, we have a link for)

I think you are talking about the attorney who showed up at the mansion. Just want to add that Jonah has a JD I believe.

 

[justbetweenus]

Now how weird is this? We all know the marriage of DS and JS was tumultuous.

But,this is as odd as a $3 bill(wife #1 quoted below)
JS and KS married the following year in Beverly Hills, but the union didn’t last. She told a psychologist that while on their honeymoon, Shacknai asked her if she thought the marriage was a mistake, according to court records filed in Maricopa County, Ariz.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/16/spreckels-mansion-owner-described-go-getter/?ap

Now,I am trying to come up with a senario for above. Here goes,Imagine laying in bed with your new husband believing this the happiest day of your life. Out of nowhere he turns to you with a question,"do you think this is a mistake".
What a narcistic SOB. The description of him being arrogant is the understatement of the century.:loser:

Maybe he just wanted to be reassured she didn't marry him for money.

 

[Paladine]

IMO there would have been no investigation into Max's "accident" until Rebecca's death occurred. Despite LE initially saying there was no connection between the two events, it was clear to everyone that there was.

BBM

Good point. So, it seems to me, whoever did this, if someone else did this, he/she/they did it without thought, or possibly concern, that it may open an investigation into Maxies death...? Leaning more to Dina, here...

 

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http://findattorneyontheweb.com/lawyer/paul-j-pfingst

Somehow, I'm finding the first three more interesting than the last:


•Business Litigation
•Health Care
•Products Liability

 

[Paladine]

Somehow, I'm finding the first three more interesting than the last:


•Business Litigation
•Health Care
•Products Liability

My thinking, exactly.

 

[Lawgirl]

I can absolutely see this scenario. Wonder if they heard a "rumor" standing around outside the house.

We have no idea of Rebecca's involvement here or lack of -- for instance, she could have left him and his sister alone in the house while she went to work out.

 

[Hunnydolll]

New article, but doesn't say anything new - just a poor rehash:

http://www.kusi.com/story/15145239/investigation-continues-in-coronado-mansion-mystery

 

[Paladine]

As his law career progressed, Pfingst earned a reputation for impacting legal issues and policies that resonated across the nation. During the eight years he was district attorney here, he helped revolutionize the technology used to prosecute crimes. The San Diego Regional Computer Forensics Laboratory, an FBI-led crime lab designed to examine computer-based evidence, became a prototype for other regional labs across the country. “We built it, and they came,” says Pfingst. “The regional approach to collaboration with resources doesn’t happen very often. Most places are very territorial—they compete for money, budgets and attention. We said if everyone chips in and contributes personnel, we could train them and institutionalize that. Now, seizing cell phones and computers is a routine part of a criminal investigation.”

http://www.sandiegomagazine.com/med...ides/index.php?cparticle=2&siarticle=1#artanc

 

[Lawgirl]

My thinking, exactly.

If this is about the attorney I read somewhere that he was involved in some major breast implant litigation -- hence you can see how they came upon this contact. Pharmaceutical - pharmaceutical litigant attorney -- every major corporation has in house counsel of some sort.

 

[pferrin]

Who had the most to loose by Rebecca dying in the manner that she did..other than Rebecca? IMO it was JS. Why would he bring all this on himself. He could and I believe would have deal with RN in a different manner had he felt it was her fault that Maxie had been hurt. If he had hired a hitman ..could have made sure the killing happened somewhere else..not bringing attention to himself.

 

[Lawgirl]

As his law career progressed, Pfingst earned a reputation for impacting legal issues and policies that resonated across the nation. During the eight years he was district attorney here, he helped revolutionize the technology used to prosecute crimes. The San Diego Regional Computer Forensics Laboratory, an FBI-led crime lab designed to examine computer-based evidence, became a prototype for other regional labs across the country.“We built it, and they came,” says Pfingst. “The regional approach to collaboration with resources doesn’t happen very often. Most places are very territorial—they compete for money, budgets and attention. We said if everyone chips in and contributes personnel, we could train them and institutionalize that. Now, seizing cell phones and computers is a routine part of a criminal investigation.”[/QUOTE]

http://www.sandiegomagazine.com/med...ides/index.php?cparticle=2&siarticle=1#artanc

Well they certainly seem to have gotten the very best legal representation possible.

 

[Quester]

Sure. He practices product liability law, health care, business litigation...then criminal law is mentioned. You had doubted a criminal lawyer representing a company; I suggest, he's not primarily a criminal lawyer, according to his profile.

(I actually saw something that tied him further to Medicis...but I might not have the time to find the link, so I simply posted this much; this much, we have a link for)

Thanks, Paladine!

My brain is going in Esher-type configurations with lots of questions and no answers.

Is there an attorney in the house who can help us out here?

 

[MizStery]

Maybe he just wanted to be reassured she didn't marry him for money.

The article says He founded Medicis in 1988. The publicly traded company is headquartered in Scottsdale, Ariz.

Medicis was already taking off by the time Shacknai met his first wife, Kimberly, in 1992. She had been a pharmaceuticals saleswoman for rival Johnson & Johnson.

So it does sound like the company was finding success. I just cannot imagine a new groom asking a question like "do you think our marriage is a mistake" to his new bride on their honeymoon. Not even joking.:twocents:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/16/spreckels-mansion-owner-described-go-getter/?ap

 

[Paladine]

If this is about the attorney I read somewhere that he was involved in some major breast implant litigation -- hence you can see how they came upon this contact. Pharmaceutical - pharmaceutical litigant attorney -- every major corporation has in house counsel of some sort.

Exactly. The 'Company' has a PR specialist, Denise D. Resnicks company, who has Medicis listed as a client on their site, speaking out (link this thread)...and I believe they have this fella as their lawyer...BUT, it's not for Jonah, you know.

 

[Paladine]

From the law office site:

Prior to his election in 1994, Mr. Pfingst was a Firm partner specializing in product liability, medical malpractice, professional licensing, and general litigation. Mr. Pfingst was the lead attorney for California physicians in the national breast implant litigation. He is a prolific trial lawyer representing clients in both state and federal courts and has been selected by his peers to the American Board of Trial Advocates (ABOTA).

Mr. Pfingst has appeared before the California Supreme Court and the California Court of Appeals. He is admitted to practice in both California and New York. He is a graduate of St. John's University School of Law and Union College in Schenectady, New York.

Mr. Pfingst currently represents clients in complex litigation, white collar crime, and professional licensing matters.

http://www.higgslaw.com/apg_a53_Paul_J_Pfingst.html

 

[Lawgirl]

The article says He founded Medicis in 1988. The publicly traded company is headquartered in Scottsdale, Ariz.

Medicis was already taking off by the time Shacknai met his first wife, Kimberly, in 1992. She had been a pharmaceuticals saleswoman for rival Johnson & Johnson.

So it does sound like the company was finding success. I just cannot imagine a new groom asking a question like "do you think our marriage is a mistake" to his new bride on their honeymoon. Not even joking.:twocents:

Well maybe someone who was mostly in touch with himself - and not in tune with another person's emotions. Obviously, this hurt her deeply since it has come up in in article frequently since 1992. ha! A person will forget a slap in the face but never a hurtful word.

I will tell you this - his children will not be happy reading this - that their dad felt marrying their mom was a mistake. He was obviously very very ambitious about his plans with Medicis and maybe he felt she was not a good choice since she did work for a rival company. Silly silly - why marry her in the first place then! Geez.

 

[arielilane]

The article says He founded Medicis in 1988. The publicly traded company is headquartered in Scottsdale, Ariz.

Medicis was already taking off by the time Shacknai met his first wife, Kimberly, in 1992. She had been a pharmaceuticals saleswoman for rival Johnson & Johnson.

So it does sound like the company was finding success. I just cannot imagine a new groom asking a question like "do you think our marriage is a mistake" to his new bride on their honeymoon. Not even joking.:twocents:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/16/spreckels-mansion-owner-described-go-getter/?ap

He may have been intoxicated. Not that I am giving him an excuse.

 

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http://www.sandiegomagazine.com/med...ides/index.php?cparticle=2&siarticle=1#artanc

He seems more specialized, but I'd venture to say he deals in white collar crime and, that's where the 'criminal defense' part comes in