Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #3

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..when LE returned with the 2nd S/W friday july 15th, they appear to be using the "blue light" on the 'upper' staircase area--

--upper staircase--
leshineslightonstaircase.jpg
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--lower staircase--
staircasepainting.jpg

THAT is interesting, to me.
 
..when LE returned with the 2nd S/W friday july 15th, they appear to be using the "blue light" on the 'upper' staircase area--

--upper staircase--
leshineslightonstaircase.jpg
-

--lower staircase--
staircasepainting.jpg

Thanks, lauriej!

Do you have a link for the "blue light" photo?

TIA

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Bolded by me: That is interesting.
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A well-known San Diego defense attorney arrived at the mansion Wednesday night and told the media at the crime scene that he represented someone involved in the case.
Paul Pfingst, who was the San Diego County district attorney from 1995 to 2008, would not identify his client. However, he specifically said his client was not Jonah Shacknai.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/business/a...san-diego-mansion-shacknai.html#ixzz1TER6HXIK

Maybe a defense attorney for GS? Would the attorney need to speak to AS regarding his client?

Or maybe the defense attorney for Dina or Adam..

Was this defense attorney for the person defending themselves for Max's accident or for the death of Rebecca?

Why would someone need a defense attorney if none of these people were charged with anything.... defend what?
 
FWIW this is a comment on SOSD news article today:

"The story I got from a Coronado local on Sat. was that the boy had a ball caught in the chandelier and couldn't get it out. . .so he's reaching in to grab it, pulls it out and falls back and slams his head on the wall."

This is so heartbreaking and I believe what most likely happened. He was only six years old and just playing.
 
Maybe a defense attorney for GS? Would the attorney need to speak to AS regarding his client?

Or maybe the defense attorney for Dina or Adam..

Was this defense attorney for the person defending themselves for Max's accident or for the death of Rebecca?

Why would someone need a defense attorney if none of these people were charged with anything.... defend what?
I agree... and I would like to know as well.
 
Is this your opinion or someone else's?

Mine. So far, we don't have a basis for anything other than opinion. Some opinion voiced on this thread is more "informed" than others. Informed opinion differs from pure conjecture.

I think we do not have a lot of info we need, but I think we know more about these people than I probably know about any of my own cousins or maybe even my brother and sister!

None of that knowledge---the trouble in JS's marriage, impression that he was "arrogant," what he said to his wife on their honeymoon-- none of it (as reiterated here thus far) seems to me of any real relevance to a case for a crime vs. accident and subsequent suicide--juicy as it is.

If you don't think we have enough info how could you possibly come to the conclusion Rebecca committed suicide and had the strongest motive?

I have come to no conclusion. But sometimes a hat is just a hat. I still believe, in the context of the "knowns," that RN had the strongest motive. So far, I see absolutely nada on this board that would lead me to think any other "player" had as strong a motive. Guilt is powerful. Personally, if a dog were in my care and got out of the yard and were to be hit by a car, I would feel profound misery and a sense of responsibility. So...

What about her family grieving?

What about that? I feel for them too. I don't think the wild speculations about interpersonal dynamics, suggestions RN staged her suicide to appear as a murder, comments on the worth of her jewelery etc. are helpful to them either.

And, from the looks of it, Jonah and Dina knew pretty early on (my opinion) that Max was essentially already gone.

Your point? If this is fact, it's still a tremendously long leap away from implicating Jonah or Dina in RN's death.
 
A timeline of events at the historic Coronado mansion that resulted in two deaths the week of July 11, 2011.
July 11: Max Shacknai, 6, falls inside the home suffering injuries that would ultimately lead to his death.
July 12: Rebecca Zahau calls a local dog daycare company to arrange for care for her dog so she could join the hospital vigil for her boyfriend’s son Max.
July 13: Adam Shacknai calls 911 at 6:30 a.m. reporting the discovery of a nude woman hanging from the second-story balcony with her hands and feet bound. Once emergency crews pronounced the woman dead, Coronado police requested the help of San Diego County Sheriff’s Department homicide investigators.
Jonah Shacknai’s company Medicis released a statement asking that the family’s privacy be respected.


Source: A Timeline of the Deaths at Spreckels Mansion | NBC San Diego
 
Is this your opinion or someone else's?

Mine. So far, we don't have a basis for anything other than opinion. Some opinion voiced on this thread is more "informed" than others. Informed opinion differs from pure conjecture.

I think we do not have a lot of info we need, but I think we know more about these people than I probably know about any of my own cousins or maybe even my brother and sister!

None of that knowledge---the trouble in JS's marriage, impression that he was "arrogant," what he said to his wife on their honeymoon-- none of it (as reiterated here thus far) seems to me of any real relevance to a case for a crime vs. accident and subsequent suicide--juicy as it is.

If you don't think we have enough info how could you possibly come to the conclusion Rebecca committed suicide and had the strongest motive?

I have come to no conclusion. But sometimes a hat is just a hat. I still believe, in the context of the "knowns," that RN had the strongest motive. So far, I see absolutely nada on this board that would lead me to think any other "player" had as strong a motive. Guilt is powerful. Personally, if a dog were in my care and got out of the yard and were to be hit by a car, I would feel profound misery and a sense of responsibility. So...

What about her family grieving?

What about that? I feel for them too. I don't think the wild speculations about interpersonal dynamics, suggestions RN staged her suicide to appear as a murder, comments on the worth of her jewelery etc. are helpful to them either.

And, from the looks of it, Jonah and Dina knew pretty early on (my opinion) that Max was essentially already gone.

Your point? If this is fact, it's still a tremendously long leap away from implicating Jonah or Dina in RN's death.

I understand your points. For me, personally, the fact that the police clearly said she died a violent and bizarre death - leads me to speculate there was an assault upon her body and that her body exhibited signs of physical trauma. This case is every intriguing, and many are suspect -- including RN.
 
Thanks, lauriej!

Do you have a link for the "blue light" photo?

TIA

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- grabbed it off a news video-----(looking around for it..)
--did find this:

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15075598/...mansion-owners-son-girlfriend?redirected=true

Detectives served a second search warrant on the house Friday night, and spent some time photographing the staircase balcony where the boy fell on Monday.

--we do know, that after initially calling maxi's "fall" an accident------once rebecca was found, LE began taking a closer look into monday's "fall".
 
Exactly. The 'Company' has a PR specialist, Denise D. Resnicks company, who has Medicis listed as a client on their site, speaking out (link this thread)...and I believe they have this fella as their lawyer...BUT, it's not for Jonah, you know. ;)

“He’s a good friend. He’s dedicated to his family,” said Denise D. Resnik, who has known Shacknai for more than a decade from their work on the Southwest Autism Research Resource Center, an organization to benefit families affected by autism. He cared deeply for Zahau, she said.
Interesting she just mentions his charity work.

Denise Resnik

SARRC Co-Founder
Denise Resnik & Associates

http://www.linkedin.com/in/deniseresnik


(I don't know... the Founder is probably also connected to JS?)

Louis Kirby, II, MD

SARRC Founder
Pivotal Research Centers, LLC

http://www.c-path.org/leaders.cfm
support the FDA path to approval

http://www.volunteerwithpremier.com
" conducting clinical research studies to evaluate investigational medication in a variety of medical conditions including acute and chronic pain. We have treated more than 90,000 study volunteers in over 350 clinical research studies. More recently, we have expanded our expertise to include the conduct of clinical studies on healthy volunteers"
 
Has this been posted? I t says it was updated 30 minutes ago.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Coronado-Police-Release-Calls-to-Shacknai-Homes-126199328.html
NBCSanDiego obtained a copy of those records and found officers were called to the G Avenue home just before midnight July 3 for a noise complaint. The records indicate officers responded to another noise complaint from the G Avenue home on August 9, 2010.

Police records indicate officers were called to the Spreckels Mansion seven times since 2008. The calls ranged from reports of vandalism, second-degree burglary and petty theft.
 

Dated July 26th

Coronado police are investigating the child’s death. San Diego County sheriff’s investigators are investigating Zahau’s death. It has not been determined whether the two cases are related. Both departments are working to determine what may have happened in the days before the two deaths.

" the boy who fell from the staircase "
 
Is this your opinion or someone else's?

Mine. So far, we don't have a basis for anything other than opinion. Some opinion voiced on this thread is more "informed" than others. Informed opinion differs from pure conjecture.

I think we do not have a lot of info we need, but I think we know more about these people than I probably know about any of my own cousins or maybe even my brother and sister!

None of that knowledge---the trouble in JS's marriage, impression that he was "arrogant," what he said to his wife on their honeymoon-- none of it (as reiterated here thus far) seems to me of any real relevance to a case for a crime vs. accident and subsequent suicide--juicy as it is.

It's a REALLY long leap for me to think Rebecca commited suicide.

But I beg to differ on what we know. I think the violence and extreme discord that seemed never ending in the last marriage is very relevant, whether or not it plays out in this case, we'll see.
 
Me: And, from the looks of it, Jonah and Dina knew pretty early on (my opinion) that Max was essentially already gone.

Sandrine: Your point? If this is fact, it's still a tremendously long leap away from implicating Jonah or Dina in RN's death.
My point is that they they were not sitting at his death bed, they knew he was basically gone right away. Therefore, I think it's far more likely they weren't in the hospital 24/7. Police are checking those videos and I expect phone records for t his very reason.

And, BTW, I haven't said much if anything negative about Rebecca because I consider her a victim in all this.
 

So there was a noise complaint earlier the same month, for which police showed up? And yet we have reports of loud music playing at night, the morning of which RN is found hanged. I find it hard to believe that a suicidal woman that didn't want to be stopped would play loud music considering police could have shown up.
 
So there was a noise complaint earlier the same month, for which police showed up? And yet we have reports of loud music playing at night, the morning of which RN is found hanged. I find it hard to believe that a suicidal woman that didn't want to be stopped would play loud music considering police could have shown up.

Very good point.
 
Re: loud music time & window of opportunity

Note: We still have no idea when the loud music was reported as being heard. The suggested 1:00 AM Wed time has NOT been found anywhere. The loud music could have been heard before RN's 10 (?) PM Tues evening phone call.

So: The window of opportunity for RN's death is still an 8 3/4 hour time frame from what little info we have been made privy. That's alot of time.
 
I think she might have been dead for hours before 911 was called. From what was reported, paramedics arrived and quickly declared her dead. She appears to still have her arms bound behind her back in her photos. If paramedics did CPR, I believe that they would have removed a cord from her arms, and put her flat on her back on a hard surface to do CPR properly. So, they might have not even tried CPR, which suggests to me she was long dead before they showed up.
 
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