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Well, Rebecca's been laid to rest:


Woman found dead at Coronado mansion laid to rest


Posted: Jul 24, 2011 9:35 PM
Updated: Jul 24, 2011 10:10 PM


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CORONADO (CBS 8) - The woman found hanging from a balcony at a Coronado Mansion, 32-year-old Rebecca Zahau, has been laid to rest.

Zahau's sister tells News 8, she was buried during a private ceremony on Saturday.

Zahau's naked body was found 11 days ago, at the historic Sprekels Mansion in Coronado and bound at her hands and feet.

The mansion is owned by 54-year-old Johan Shacknai, who was her boyfriend. Shacknai's son died the same week after falling down a staircase in the mansion.

Zahau's family says they plan on releasing a statement in the next few days, with details of a memorial fund.

Investigators say her death was either a murder or a suicide, but it may be weeks before toxicology results are back to help them determine a cause.

video report

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15138378/woman-found-dead-at-coronado-mansion-laid-to-rest
 
elementry said:
Well, Rebecca's been laid to rest:


Woman found dead at Coronado mansion laid to rest


Posted: Jul 24, 2011 9:35 PM
Updated: Jul 24, 2011 10:10 PM


Click image to enlarge
CORONADO (CBS 8) - The woman found hanging from a balcony at a Coronado Mansion, 32-year-old Rebecca Zahau, has been laid to rest.

Zahau's sister tells News 8, she was buried during a private ceremony on Saturday.

Zahau's naked body was found 11 days ago, at the historic Sprekels Mansion in Coronado and bound at her hands and feet.

The mansion is owned by 54-year-old Johan Shacknai, who was her boyfriend. Shacknai's son died the same week after falling down a staircase in the mansion.

Zahau's family says they plan on releasing a statement in the next few days, with details of a memorial fund.

Investigators say her death was either a murder or a suicide, but it may be weeks before toxicology results are back to help them determine a cause.

video report

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15138378/woman-found-dead-at-coronado-mansion-laid-to-rest
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Poor young woman...:( Rest In Peace Rebecca Nalepa.

Thanks for letting us know, elementry. Thoughts and prayers go out to family and friends...this is too sad. I think I'm done for tonight. Night, all.
 
elementry said:
Well, Rebecca's been laid to rest:


Woman found dead at Coronado mansion laid to rest


Posted: Jul 24, 2011 9:35 PM
Updated: Jul 24, 2011 10:10 PM


Click image to enlarge
CORONADO (CBS 8) - The woman found hanging from a balcony at a Coronado Mansion, 32-year-old Rebecca Zahau, has been laid to rest.

Zahau's sister tells News 8, she was buried during a private ceremony on Saturday.

Zahau's naked body was found 11 days ago, at the historic Sprekels Mansion in Coronado and bound at her hands and feet.

The mansion is owned by 54-year-old Johan Shacknai, who was her boyfriend. Shacknai's son died the same week after falling down a staircase in the mansion.

Zahau's family says they plan on releasing a statement in the next few days, with details of a memorial fund.

Investigators say her death was either a murder or a suicide, but it may be weeks before toxicology results are back to help them determine a cause.

video report

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15138378/woman-found-dead-at-coronado-mansion-laid-to-rest
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BBM: This speaks volumes....a memorail fund? I guess JS did not pay for the funeral for Rebecca, the woman he loved and was planning to marry....:waitasec:

LOL.. never mind.. I didn't really know what that meant I guess...
 
So if she killed herself by hanging, what do the toxicology reports matter in determining COD?

Curiouser and curiouser.
 
justbetweenus said:
IMO I don't think she would have done this herself. But I do believe she is involved.
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maybe so. Women usually use a gun or poison someone. That is a lot of work, knowing the positionthe mom was in at the time. BUT on the other hand, she would KNOW statistics! and try to thwart them.
If it was not a suicide WHOEVER it was knew they had time. A LOT of time and likely would not get caught.
This is what I found...
-Could mom be the killer?IMO no.
In contrast, women commit only a fairly small percentage of murders and the "victims" or those "murders" are almost always men who have abused the women. That is to say, while not necessarily self-defense (because it may come well after they have been beaten rather than in immediate defense), when women kill they usually have good reason and the deceased's demise is a net gain for society
http://www.calgunlaws.com/index.php/che-talk/777.htm
But, women mostly kill a current or former spouse or dating partner, child, friend or relative. The murders are generally unplanned and typically occur in the home. Women kill out of desperation to protect themselves or their children from a real (or imagined) life-threatening situation or in reaction to physical, sexual or psychological abuse. It is often a crime of opportunity; a chance situation presents itself and is acted upon without much thought.
http://dailyhealthweb.blogspot.com/2010/04/dr-oz-why-women-kill-mind-of-female.html
-Could it be the Father? IMO no.
And if the offender has a close relationship with the victim, he will only partially remove the victim's clothing, never leaving her completely nude.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704
-Could a stranger have killed her? IMO no.
This does not imply that personal assaults never happen while a property crime is being committed, but usually these offenders prefer quick, clean kills that reduce the time spent at the scene.
-Who found her? The Father's brother staying at the residence?
What about her x husband? Humiliate her? No one can have her?
(what if anything is known about these two men?)
the involvement of a third party, who is usually the one who discovers the victim.
http://www.crimeandclues.com/index.php/behavioral-evidence/48-criminal-profiling/89-violent-crime-scene-analysis-modus-operandi-signature-and-staging
The second most common type of staging is when the perpetrator attempts to redirect the investigation by making the crime appear to be a sex-related homicide. (IMO this case simply a murder, staged to look like a suicide where the victim was trying to make it look like sexual assault and murder instead) overkill! no pun intended
http://www.practicalhomicide.com/Research/staging.htm
conscious criminal action by an offender to thwart an investigation, shock the finder and investigators of the crime scene, or give perverted pleasure to the killer No feelings for his brother? No concern for her modesty? knowing his nephew lay dying as well? he just left her like that?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704
often family members wil cover victims- if nude for their own dignity. She wasn't family I know but...

What motive would he have had to want to kill her NOW?
Could it have been that she refused his advances in the abscence of his brother? Not planned but he lost control?

Based on the blue scarf IMO it points more to her X. He would know that...
 
IzzyBlanche said:
I have seen the search warrant excuse also, and it makes no sense to me. I am not a legal professional but as far as I know, investigating a suspicious death with the corpse in view would not require a search warrant.

WS legal peeps, help me out.
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Sorry to bump my own post, but I just want to clarify what I meant.

I can see LE having to get a search warrant to search the interior of the mansion.

But having to get a search warrant for the courtyard, and the body, and any areas immediate proximate to it?

To put a tent over the corpse? Really?

I'm not a lawyer but that makes no sense to me as far as I understand the law as a layperson.
 
The department on Friday urged police departments from California to Arizona not to release police reports or other public documents about Shacknai or Zahau.
The Coronado Police Department on Friday would not release tapes of the two 911 calls from the mansion this week. The Police Department also refused Friday to release any documents related to any past calls to houses owned by Shacknai and his former wife, Dina Shacknai, who also owns a home on the island.
The San Diego County Medical Examiner’s Office, which completed an autopsy on Zahau on Thursday, said Friday that the report was sealed at the Sheriff’s Department’s request.
Sheriff’s Capt. Tim Curran would not answer any questions about the case.
In a statement sent to various law-enforcement agencies Friday, the department said it also had restricted access to any search warrants issued in the case.

Official Silence
http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-ne...t-arizona-ceos-mansion-grips-coronado-island/

ETA: Lots more at link
 
tiredblondy said:
And now I just want to vent....I am furious that the LE could not erect a tent over her body to shield it from those helicopters...How absolutely callous!!! They may have to leave the body uncovered but it could have been shielded from prying eyes.

I may write them about that. I've never seen that done before. They could have gotten one from any funeral home...I think that was mental cruelty to her family!
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I feel the same - I'm furious a makeshift tent couldn't have been erected asap. I live in San Diego county. I can't believe LE did not insure dignity for the victim.
 
gngr~snap said:
maybe so. Women usually use a gun or poison someone. That is a lot of work, knowing the positionthe mom was in at the time. BUT on the other hand, she would KNOW statistics! and try to thwart them.
If it was not a suicide WHOEVER it was knew they had time. A LOT of time and likely would not get caught.
This is what I found...
-Could mom be the killer?IMO no.
In contrast, women commit only a fairly small percentage of murders and the "victims" or those "murders" are almost always men who have abused the women. That is to say, while not necessarily self-defense (because it may come well after they have been beaten rather than in immediate defense), when women kill they usually have good reason and the deceased's demise is a net gain for society
http://www.calgunlaws.com/index.php/che-talk/777.htm
But, women mostly kill a current or former spouse or dating partner, child, friend or relative. The murders are generally unplanned and typically occur in the home. Women kill out of desperation to protect themselves or their children from a real (or imagined) life-threatening situation or in reaction to physical, sexual or psychological abuse. It is often a crime of opportunity; a chance situation presents itself and is acted upon without much thought.
http://dailyhealthweb.blogspot.com/2010/04/dr-oz-why-women-kill-mind-of-female.html
-Could it be the Father? IMO no.
And if the offender has a close relationship with the victim, he will only partially remove the victim's clothing, never leaving her completely nude.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704
-Could a stranger have killed her? IMO no.
This does not imply that personal assaults never happen while a property crime is being committed, but usually these offenders prefer quick, clean kills that reduce the time spent at the scene.
-Who found her? The Father's brother staying at the resicence?
What about her x husband? Humiliate her? No one can have her?
(what if anything is known about these two men?)
the involvement of a third party, who is usually the one who discovers the victim.
http://www.crimeandclues.com/index.php/behavioral-evidence/48-criminal-profiling/89-violent-crime-scene-analysis-modus-operandi-signature-and-staging
The second most common type of staging is when the perpetrator attempts to redirect the investigation by making the crime appear to be a sex-related homicide. (IMO this case simply a murder, staged to look like a suicide where the victim was trying to make it look like sexual assault and murder instead) overkill! no pun intended
http://www.practicalhomicide.com/Research/staging.htm
conscious criminal action by an offender to thwart an investigation, shock the finder and investigators of the crime scene, or give perverted pleasure to the killer No feelings for his brother? No concern for her modesty? knowing his nephew lay dying as well? he just left her like that?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704
often family members wil cover victims- if nude for their own dignity. She wasn't family I know but...

What motive would he have had to want to kill her NOW?
Could it have been that she refused his advances in the abscence of his brother? Not planned but he lost control?

Based on the blue scarf IMO it points more to her X. He would know that...
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Very interesting post gngr snap. Thanks for posting it. I want to read more on the links you have provided.

IF say whoever did this didn't believe Max was hurt from falling down stairs maybe they tied her up torturing her for the real answers. They do say it was violent. I keep coming up with these scenarios (some off the wall I know) of what might have happened because I'm so darn curious to know. Maybe it was Adam, and maybe he made it appear he found her hanged. Just keep going all over the place.

Off to read your links. Thanks again for posting this.
 
If your upset now, wait till you read the story in the link I posted above.
The teen boys in the neighborhood were watching from their roof.

IMO
 
This is what I'm talking about. It's just plain wrong to not provide some dignity to the victim.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-ne...t-arizona-ceos-mansion-grips-coronado-island/

"On Wednesday, he and his friends stood on their roof and looked down into the mansion’s courtyard at Zahau’s nude body."

“We saw the body from the roof,” Prchal said Friday, adding that the image was disturbing but hard to look away from. “Definitely.”
 
Carrington said:
The department on Friday urged police departments from California to Arizona not to release police reports or other public documents about Shacknai or Zahau.
The Coronado Police Department on Friday would not release tapes of the two 911 calls from the mansion this week. The Police Department also refused Friday to release any documents related to any past calls to houses owned by Shacknai and his former wife, Dina Shacknai, who also owns a home on the island.
The San Diego County Medical Examiner’s Office, which completed an autopsy on Zahau on Thursday, said Friday that the report was sealed at the Sheriff’s Department’s request.
Sheriff’s Capt. Tim Curran would not answer any questions about the case.
In a statement sent to various law-enforcement agencies Friday, the department said it also had restricted access to any search warrants issued in the case.

Official Silence
http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-ne...t-arizona-ceos-mansion-grips-coronado-island/

ETA: Lots more at link
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From your link:

Prchal said GS has not talked a lot about Zahau’s death or the injury to her 6-year-old brother. “It’s kind of intimate,” he said. “She doesn’t want to talk about them.”

GS was in Coronado until Monday morning, when she returned to her South Carolina home, Prchal said. She was gone by the time emergency crews responded to calls that her brother had fallen near the mansion’s grand interior staircase.

So she was not there during the accident.
 
Wendy101 said:
BBM: This speaks volumes....a memorail fund? I guess JS did not pay for the funeral for Rebecca, the woman he loved and was planning to marry....:waitasec:

LOL.. never mind.. I didn't really know what that meant I guess...
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Rebecca's family has to now solicit funds for her burial..........Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture? JS, mega, mega millionaire won't cough up the $$$$ for her burial. Therein lies the story folks.

Either he did find out that RN somehow harmed Max, or he want's to hurt her (perhaps more then he already has,) for not taking care of little Max on her watch.

AGAIN, murder. Plain, but not simple!!!
 
IzzyBlanche said:
Sorry to bump my own post, but I just want to clarify what I meant.

I can see LE having to get a search warrant to search the interior of the mansion.

But having to get a search warrant for the courtyard, and the body, and any areas immediate proximate to it?

To put a tent over the corpse? Really?

I'm not a lawyer but that makes no sense to me as far as I understand the law as a layperson.
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I would say LE got a cease and desist call.
Imagine the # of things this man had in his home that were not related to the girlfriend. The scene was sealed.. He wasn't getting in anyway.
Almost proof to me in a way he didn't do it. Had he done it he'd have been prepared for a search when LE got involved, before allowing anyone to "find" her.
IF he was with his son all night at the hospital, maybe it was just too much to deal with. I doubt he knew the details or he would have wanted her at least covered. Not knowing the details again shows it's unlikely he did it.
He probably just told everyone to STOP!
While he pondered WTH was up!
His brother was there. Why didn't he insist? I get securing a crime scene... but that was a LONG time.
so sad.
 
justbetweenus said:
From your link:

Prchal said GS has not talked a lot about Zahau’s death or the injury to her 6-year-old brother. “It’s kind of intimate,” he said. “She doesn’t want to talk about them.”

GS was in Coronado until Monday morning, when she returned to her South Carolina home, Prchal said. She was gone by the time emergency crews responded to calls that her brother had fallen near the mansion’s grand interior staircase.

So she was not there during the accident.
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NO. Not necessarily. The wording is weird but it COULD mean she was there for the accident but gone by the time the EMT's arrived.
 
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