Remains found confirmed as Jacob Wetterling/Suspect led LE to Remains #2

[Sigrun]

Did you see the historic pic of that "gravel pit" in 1991? I looked like it's mostly under water.

It looks like it floods a lot.

Yea, I had trouble telling what was trees and water. The images I have are poor quality.

 

[Ottojr]

"Sewage Pond Road" IS CR 33!!

In my opinion.

 

[Ottojr]

Yea, I had trouble telling what was trees and water. The images I have are poor quality.

I only think so because of how the obviously under water places look.

I thing even the trees were under water in 1991 when that ariel pic was taken. It was April 1991. Spring is a wet month here (in MN).


Plus, look at that road on Google Earth. It's VERY low lying.

 

[FBI Surveillance Van]

I think the coordinates posted for the car spot were actually for the gravel pit...so I left that out. Wasn't sure which coordinates you meant to put for that...

best guess~@45.387322, -94.692371

 

[Mariposa]

As investigators dug, Jerry and Patty Wetterling watched for a short time from afar.
Conditions weren’t ideal. Cows tried to chase off investigators. And the flood-prone creek that ran through the pasture made sifting through the soil more difficult.
“It took hours — hours — to find the spot first and then hours to continually excavate,” Bechtold said.
Though Heinrich said he had buried the boy in a shallow grave about 2 feet deep, and had placed Jacob’s jacket on top of the remains, the evidence authorities found was scattered across at least 10 square feet, Bechtold said, a sign of erosion and moving soil from frost heaves and flooding.

http://www.startribune.com/finding-jacob-the-final-push/393005001/

 

[Ottojr]

I think so, but the only other "anomaly" remaining is how to explain what Ottojr said ... and how he fired a gun so close to a house. It does seem that 33 must be the sewage pond road as it runs directly to them. But what looks right about the position you provided is how close it is to the farm. Shew, not sure.

Honestly, looking back on how things were back in 1989, a couple of gun shots would be an issue.

I don't hunt but, I have friends that do, and isn't fall deer hunting season?

 

[Ottojr]

best guess~@45.387322, -94.692371

I know I'm new here but why can't people post pics of the area with little arrows or whatnot to point out what they're talking about?

 

[FBI Surveillance Van]

"Sewage Pond Road" IS CR 33!!

In my opinion.

Check old topo maps historicaerials.com Before 23bypass was built. In 1989 HWY33 was not the "sewage pond road". The rest of the details don't fit either if he starts by turning onto 33.

 

[Mariposa]

I didn't know LE had Patty Wetterling approached Mr Rassier while wearing a wire in 2009 to talk about Jacob. I am so glad the cloud of suspicion over him is definitively cleared.

http://www.startribune.com/unsealed-court-documents-detail-search-for-jacob-wetterling/392899791/

 

[Ottojr]

best guess~@45.387322, -94.692371

THAT is also my guess. Closer to "100 yards up the road" like Heinrich said in his confession.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

In addition to the joint agreement signed by the Wetterlings and everyone else on 8/30/16…


“Proffer Agreement” pursuant to plea agreement –to DH from US DOJ – signed by DH and his attorneys 9/1/16
http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1wett070916.doc.pdf

Final Plea Agreement 9/6/16 - signed by DH, his attorneys, US attorneys
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3099001-Danny-Heinrich-Plea-Agreement.html

There should be a 4th agreement somewhere.

Unless I missed something, these agreements appear to only apply to federal prosecutions. Is there something that says the State cannot prosecute him?

 

[FBI Surveillance Van]

I think so, but the only other "anomaly" remaining is how to explain what Ottojr said ... and how he fired a gun so close to a house. It does seem that 33 must be the sewage pond road as it runs directly to them. But what looks right about the position you provided is how close it is to the farm. Shew, not sure.

That is not a house. It's a garage. The other buildings (maybe even that garage) were not there in 10/22/1989. Granite Creations (nearest building to the East) was also not there.

 

[AF555]

Both 33 and the little unpaved road could be the "sewage pond road", IMO. They both lead back to those sewage treatment ponds on the other side of what is now the bypass. The "approach" could come from either road, leading to the general area of the spots that FBI Surveillance Van suggests.

4/1991

 

[Sigrun]

Or ...



The only difference here is that he turns sooner, which is actually closer to his estimate of 100 yards before he turned onto the approach.

Edit: well, actually, you proposed that also. I think this is it.

 

[Sigrun]

That is not a house. It's a garage. The other buildings (maybe even that garage) were not there in 10/22/1989. Granite Creations (nearest building to the East) was also not there.

Garage was there at least in 1991.

 

[Mariposa]

Unless I missed something, these agreements appear to only apply to federal prosecutions. Is there something that says the State cannot prosecute him?

Yes. The Stearns County Prosecutor signed off on the agreement and represented the State of Minnesota. The state was a party to the deal and is bound by it.

 

[Sigrun]

House or garage? Looks like a garage to me.



Not even sure it was there in 1989. It was there in 1991 though.

 

[Ottojr]

As investigators dug, Jerry and Patty Wetterling watched for a short time from afar.
Conditions weren’t ideal. Cows tried to chase off investigators. And the flood-prone creek that ran through the pasture made sifting through the soil more difficult.
“It took hours — hours — to find the spot first and then hours to continually excavate,” Bechtold said.
Though Heinrich said he had buried the boy in a shallow grave about 2 feet deep, and had placed Jacob’s jacket on top of the remains, the evidence authorities found was scattered across at least 10 square feet, Bechtold said, a sign of erosion and moving soil from frost heaves and flooding.

http://www.startribune.com/finding-jacob-the-final-push/393005001/

Like I said. And there was 25 years of that.

 

[AF555]

Weird looking place for sure.

 

[FBI Surveillance Van]

Honestly, looking back on how things were back in 1989, a couple of gun shots would be an issue.

I don't hunt but, I have friends that do, and isn't fall deer hunting season?

Most (competent) hunters shoot to site in before gun deer season. There's also a shooting range only about 1mile to the north - just west of 33. The ringing of shots there was not a big deal. At night.....farmers shoot coyotes,foxes, racoons too. I would bet that a large bomb could have been exploded in the gravel pit without drawing too much if any attention.