Paul Sanders (13th Juror) says JA was whispering to MDLR throughout Dr. DeMarte's testimony. I hope jurors are noticing things like that. If she hasn't already sought advice about how to safely separate from JA post-verdict, surely MDLR will now.
One new to me thing from yesterday's testimony was JA's repeated use of crying to keep her men from leaving (TA, Daryl, Matt). I picture scary, alarming, ear piercing, I'll-kill-myself, histrionic crying.
DeMarte also blew up the stories Of Jodi's own reporting of DV by Travis
information of domestic violence only comes from the defendant. No one has corroborated that it existed. Secondly, the testing documentation shows too many inconsistencies. She had four dates that she claims abuse happened but the incidents are documented as different dates. Thirdly, the reasoning and content behind the incidents has inconsistent stories. For example, the night she allegedly broke her finger, she claims it was the result of losing her job yet reports to another psychologist that it was the result of money issues. Finally, none of Travis Alexander’s relationships with anyone showed any sign of domestic violence
I agree that he'll try to go after DM on lack of DV and PTSD expertise ....that's what JW did last time.
What he'll do with BPD is more difficult for him. The beauty of DM's testimony yesterday is how much she was able to present about what really happened between Travis and JA and how JA terrorized Travis, all by using the narrative of how each data point illustrated a symptom of BPD.
The damage done to the DT wasn't DM's thoroughly convincing diagnosis of BPD. That helped, not harmed the DT. What was devastating was all that revealing info about JA, since it provided a completely different version of.....everything.
So, I'd guess that Nurmi attacks her interpretation of those underlying incidents. Example: Travis told Regan he felt stalked. Nurmi-- well, we know Travis wasn't being honest with anyone about the fact he was still having sex with her. He was having sex with her and at the same time telling his friends she was stalking him. How can you even believe what's he saying to one of the many GF's he had, much less use this to diagnose her?
It's Travis Da Playa versus manipulative Jodi in continual pursuit, even when it works against her. My concern is that Nurmi will use Travis Da Playa as reasoning for Jodi's behaviors. Would she have slashed his tires if he'd been open and honest about their relationship? What would the effect of not being validated in a relationship have on BPD? Would she have exhibited intrusive behaviors if he acted trustworthy? And so on...I agree that he'll try to go after DM on lack of DV and PTSD expertise ....that's what JW did last time.
What he'll do with BPD is more difficult for him. The beauty of DM's testimony yesterday is how much she was able to present about what really happened between Travis and JA and how JA terrorized Travis, all by using the narrative of how each data point illustrated a symptom of BPD.
The damage done to the DT wasn't DM's thoroughly convincing diagnosis of BPD. That helped, not harmed the DT. What was devastating was all that revealing info about JA, since it provided a completely different version of.....everything.
So, I'd guess that Nurmi attacks her interpretation of those underlying incidents. Example: Travis told Regan he felt stalked. Nurmi-- well, we know Travis wasn't being honest with anyone about the fact he was still having sex with her. He was having sex with her and at the same time telling his friends she was stalking him. How can you even believe what's he saying to one of the many GF's he had, much less use this to diagnose her?
How long did it take most of us--including me--to understand that they likely didn't ever have a committed relationship, even the pitifully short one she described? Really, not til Abe's testimony. Which fundamentally changed perspectives on the reality of the sex stuff.
And that's in spite of the huge amount of information we have and the jury doesn't. I don't think very many jurors, if any, will believe there was NO sex after JA moved to Mesa. And they would be wrong if they believed that. They did have at least some version of intimate contact on at least several occasions. Travis said so himself (not the details ) to at least one friend- Taylor Searle.
Matt, Daryll and Travis reported she was whiny and cried a lot
DeMarte also blew up the stories Of Jodi's own reporting of DV by Travis
information of domestic violence only comes from the defendant. No one has corroborated that it existed. Secondly, the testing documentation shows too many inconsistencies. She had four dates that she claims abuse happened but the incidents are documented as different dates. Thirdly, the reasoning and content behind the incidents has inconsistent stories. For example, the night she allegedly broke her finger, she claims it was the result of losing her job yet reports to another psychologist that it was the result of money issues. Finally, none of Travis Alexander’s relationships with anyone showed any sign of domestic violence
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It's Travis Da Playa versus manipulative Jodi in continual pursuit, even when it works against her. My concern is that Nurmi will use Travis Da Playa as reasoning for Jodi's behaviors. Would she have slashed his tires if he'd been open and honest about their relationship? What would the effect of not being validated in a relationship have on BPD? Would she have exhibited intrusive behaviors if he acted trustworthy? And so on...
If he goes that route, my head's gonna explode. There's ample reason why people in a relationship with someone personality disordered need help to walk them through the 'crazy', to help them learn to identify manipulative behaviors, and equip them with tools of self-protection.
No matter how bothered jurors might have been watching JA yesterday, I'm convinced the DT knew she needed a babysitter to keep her from exhibiting far more alarming behavior....like staring at DM with murderous expressions flashing across her face.
It's Travis Da Playa versus manipulative Jodi in continual pursuit, even when it works against her. My concern is that Nurmi will use Travis Da Playa as reasoning for Jodi's behaviors. Would she have slashed his tires if he'd been open and honest about their relationship? What would the effect of not being validated in a relationship have on BPD? Would she have exhibited intrusive behaviors if he acted trustworthy? And so on...
If he goes that route, my head's gonna explode. There's ample reason why people in a relationship with someone personality disordered need help to walk them through the 'crazy', to help them learn to identify manipulative behaviors, and equip them with tools of self-protection.
I believe that very often the State and Defense experts cancel one another out with each saying the opposite of the other. The jurors will remember Demarte because it is through her that indirect testimony (of those who knew Travis and Arias) has been presented to them. This along with the autopsy photos and Arias' lack of remorse is what you have going for the State.
The mitigating factors that will stand out are her age, lack of criminal history and the BPD. I don't think the jurors are going to have a deep and technical discussion on BPD. There might be a few who will hesitate to sentence a 'mentally ill' woman to death. The others will help them understand that the defendant does know the difference between right and wrong and is not clinically insane.
To put it simply, it will be a battle between the horrific nature of the crime/lack of remorse versus Arias being a younger, white woman. If the jurors are courageous enough then we will have a DP verdict.
The equipment you can buy at RadioShack (TomTom, Magellan, Garmin) for giving in-cab specific directions was extra, but the LoJack was on every rental vehicle by the time JA rented her car. The rental company could have found the vehicle if abandoned or stolen.Perhaps internal GPS wasn't standard in 2008?
http://murderpedia.org/female.A/images/arias-jodi/jodi-arias-court-docs-2.pdf
Jury questions:
"4) Did you look into the possibility of renting a GPS system along with the rental car?
A: I believe it was offered, they are typically offered when I rent a car, um but it costs more,
and I was trying to save money. "
http://www.realitychatter.com/t4305p450-jodi-arias-trial-for-the-murder-of-travis-alexander-17
"I'm not sure of all the car rental co's, but we have offices for Hertz, & Enterprise in our bldgs. In the newer cars 2011 on for both Co's there is the internal GPS system. Enterprise & Hertz can access the system & see where the car has been."