Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin named POI *report updated and comment removed*

[lil momma]

Hi MADJGNLAW, I do appreciate you posting the statments from LE and I fully realize LE has stated they do not consider Crystal or Ron to be suspects, however LE has NEVER stated they have cleared Ronald Cummings like some would like for us to believe is the case...JMHO
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I agree Em! I too have heard all the word games LE has used... However, i have NEVER seen where LE has come out and Ronald Cummings is "CLEARED" that is the word i have been looking for LE to use when speaking of Ron's status. JMO Pretty much like they said with the A/C guy, he wasn't ever labeled as a suspect or considered a suspect or not considered a suspect....he was "CLEARED"

 

[Chablis]

I think this either involved child abuse, or drugs. Two worlds that Ron is very involved in. If this is a child abuse case, then I can see the death penalty being used...

When a man can abuse a pregnant woman, like Ronald did Crystal, he can certainly abuse a child.

Ronald Cummings IMO seems like the typical abusive coward. We haven't heard about Ron having confronations with other men, unless he has a gun with him. Most of the time, Ron is picking on pregnant women like Crystal, and young women like Amber Brooks.

Abusing a child would be right up his alley...

I just wonder, other than pictures of Ron is a moment in time posing and preening for a camera with his kids, ala Casey, what makes anyone think hes this kind, gentle, patient father? I keep thinking, did I miss all the stories of Ron reading the kids bedtime stories every night and pictures of him volunteering at Haleighs class or something like that, a quick first glimpse of Rons arrest record shows you he is not a good guy. Just because he went to court and lied and got his kids does make a man! A good dad does not introduce multiple girls to his kids as their new mommy, Rons life was not healthy and he got his kids out of spite, not love, he really couldnt handle taking care of kids, and one died, I guess thats how sadly you know someone shouldn't be around kids, now hes hanging out with all the other tough guys in prison, he finally found his niche. Maybe he should have taken a page out of "Teresa" aka "mom" handbook and should have let someone else raise his kids, but it was more important for him to punish Crystal for not wanting to be with him, he used his children as weapons, ironic isn't it?

Ron was not some patient man that was going to be super chill with Misty out having sex with Greg Page, but its really important he makes everyone thing hes ok with her "affair"

Haleigh died as a result of that "affair" one way or another, but that is the direct cause of her death, I am willing to bet the bank on it!

 

[lonetraveler]

Have we considered the fact that LE said Ron wasn't a suspect to make him feel comfortable and to get him to talk? Let's use common sense.

Ron lawyered up, Ron didn't cooperate with the police, and Ron even told Misty not to talk to the police. Ron whined like a baby, to Dana Treen in an interview that LE was only looking at Misty and himself.

What better way to get Ron to come in for questioning, than to release a statement saying he isn't a suspect?

LE cannot clear someone who lawyers up and refuses to cooperate.

I also haven't heard a satisfying answer from Nancy Grace or any of the Ron apologists on why he would "resist" questioning from law enforcement if he is innocent.... Still waiting on an answer to that.

BBM: You shouldn't feel very lonely while waiting for that answer, you have plenty of company waiting on the same thing............LOL.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Right now, if I had to put money on it, I'd still go with Tommy, but I'm taking all of LE's recent statements into consideration & trying to keep an open mind. It looks like LE has for whatever reason, veered away from their suspect label regarding Tommy & instead is putting Haleigh's family under pressure. If Tommy was the perp, there really isn't a reason to not arrest him, because he gave them a boat load of reasons. So, maybe he's not the perp. Ron made a deal to tell the truth & if he isn't following through, LE is furious I'm sure. But regardless of who the actual perp is, it's MOO that these 3 are all in cahoots. & Ron being in cahoots but not being the perp, is almost unthinkable, IMO. So, I'm back to square 1, (why not? that's what it looks like LE is doing), & relooking at the facts...before Ron cut off interviews. Also, I'm considering that LE has built a case against the perp, but hasn't made an arrest, because they want to know exactly what the others did too, so they can be charged accordingly. MOO.

BBM
I agree Dodie. I believe that, eventhough LE is trying to build a case against whoever they know is the perp, they have to know what the roles are of everyone who was involved before they can charge anyone. They have to know ALL the facts they can and not go into it with any gaps. Especially since, as far as we know, there is no physical evidence, not even that Haleigh is dead.

 

[mysticrose]

Was not sure where to post this since there is no thread yet for the plastic skull that was found. I have been wondering if someone threw that skull in there to get LE to search that area again knowing that Haleigh may be in that water? Anyone know if this area has been thoroughly searched after the find of the plastic skull? Maybe she was moved there recently? I just find this plastic skull find a little to coincidental, and odd. :waitasec:Thoughts?

BBM above ....me too, I just came across this article today looking for news. It is either someone's sick joke or there is something more to it ....moo

http://palatkadailynews.com/articles/2011/02/22/news/news01.txt

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/rss/article/192430/3/Skull-Found-in-Satsuma-Turns-out-to-be-Plastic

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Have we considered the fact that LE said Ron wasn't a suspect to make him feel comfortable and to get him to talk? Let's use common sense.

Ron lawyered up, Ron didn't cooperate with the police, and Ron even told Misty not to talk to the police. Ron whined like a baby, to Dana Treen in an interview that LE was only looking at Misty and himself.

What better way to get Ron to come in for questioning, than to release a statement saying he isn't a suspect?

LE cannot clear someone who lawyers up and refuses to cooperate.

I also haven't heard a satisfying answer from Nancy Grace or any of the Ron apologists on why he would "resist" questioning from law enforcement if he is innocent.... Still waiting on an answer to that.

You're exactly right Levi! Common sense also dictates that, if my precious child is missing, presumed dead, and LE wants to talk to me, I will talk to them all day, every day, take as many LDT as they want, and tell them anything I know. That is the common sense that seems to be missing abaout Ron all throughout this whold mess. Not only is he refusing to talk to LE, he is instructing Misty (the key) to not talk to them also. He also, if I remember correctly, even contacted Misty to warn her that Donna a plant, and not to trust her. You would think he would want the "key" to his daughter's missing persons case to trust any plant to get to the truth. Common sense tells me that Ron did not want the truth to come out. I agree, let's use common sense. Ron has never acted like an innocent person. Nonni

 

[mkay882]

:waitasec:What makes you think he was at work from 7:00pm to 3:00am? It has been reported by Kim P that he sneaked out before during his shift. He may have or could have if he thought he was needed at home.
He was fired for abandoning his job...just maybe they found out he abandoned his job WHILE he was working the night shift.

He was already at work at 7 by a few hours.
LE is satisfied with his alibi.

You might want to reread what I bolded.
Even KP said this rumor was unsubstantiated.

 

[Chablis]

He was already at work at 7 by a few hours.
LE is satisfied with his alibi.

You might want to reread what I bolded.
Even KP said this rumor was unsubstantiated.

Right, but in cop speak, "satisfied" does not always mean what you may think it does. They were satisfied with Mistys lie detector results, they said that, and now we know she had failed them, and they used the word satisfied, so it really doesn't mean satisfied means cleared at all, not by a long shot.

 

[dodie20]

Hi MADJGNLAW, I do appreciate you posting the statments from LE and I fully realize LE has stated they do not consider Crystal or Ron to be suspects, however LE has NEVER stated they have cleared Ronald Cummings like some would like for us to believe is the case...JMHO
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Thanks. & for me anyway, I have a problem with LE using the word 'considered'. If they've been cleared, why not get to the point & say so? Which sounds more definitive? 'they are not suspects', or 'they are not considered to be suspects? Considered is an unnecessary word, that lacks commitment, or implies something is being left unsaid, or is leaving a door opened for a later change. MOO. IDK, maybe I read too much into their wording, but honestly, I would think LE would omit all unnecessary words from statements. & I remember almost the same wording being used in a statement regarding Misty. MOO.

 

[Emeralgem]

He was already at work at 7 by a few hours.
LE is satisfied with his alibi.

You might want to reread what I bolded.
Even KP said this rumor was unsubstantiated.

My understanding is there are witnesses who claim he was at their house during the news hour but what I am really interested in knowing is what time the incident happened. I suspect not too long after Haleigh got off that school bus..I also suspect he hauled his rear end into work immediately after the incident happened and left Misty to deal with it...Witnesses have also claimed he was known to sneak off from work. JMHO

 

[dodie20]

Right, but in cop speak, "satisfied" does not always mean what you may think it does. They were satisfied with Mistys lie detector results, they said that, and now we know she had failed them, and they used the word satisfied, so it really doesn't mean satisfied means cleared at all, not by a long shot.

'Satisfied' is another one of those words that leaves me hanging.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I don't think we should settle with that. In 15 years, Ron will be out. In 15 years Tommy will be out. In 25 years, Misty will be out. They'll be their parents ages when they get out.

That isn't justice.

I agree Levi, this is a "consilation prize" to justice at best. But I tend to agree with krkrjk. It is very discouraging. I pray we are wrong.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Please show me where LE has stated they have cleared Ronald Cummings. To my knowledge they have never made that statement. The only person I recall ever stating Ronald was cleared was his momma. And IMO that was/is just wishful thinking on her part. JMHO

You're right, and as a matter of fact, I have never read anywhere LE has said they have cleared Ron's momma either! Just saying...:waitasec::waitasec:

 

[lonetraveler]

Thanks. & for me anyway, I have a problem with LE using the word 'considered'. If they've been cleared, why not get to the point & say so? Which sounds more definitive? 'they are not suspects', or 'they are not considered to be suspects? Considered is an unnecessary word, that lacks commitment, or implies something is being left unsaid, or is leaving a door opened for a later change. MOO. IDK, maybe I read too much into their wording, but honestly, I would think LE would omit all unnecessary words from statements. & I remember almost the same wording being used in a statement regarding Misty. MOO.

Yep, I agree. When I read that someone is not considered to be a suspect, then I immediately remind myself that LE may reconsider whenever they want.LOL

 

[lonetraveler]

You're right, and as a matter of fact, I have never read anywhere LE has said they have cleared Ron's momma either! Just saying...:waitasec::waitasec:

:floorlaugh: Great point NB. I guess that means that LE will not have to reconsider any comments on her...........:crazy:

 

[Whisperer]

He was already at work at 7 by a few hours. LE is satisfied with his alibi.

You might want to reread what I bolded.
Even KP said this rumor was unsubstantiated.

You just stated kp's words were not substantiated, are yours? I don't know because you could be using Shoemaker's words which were given to him by his client. If you have any other information, please share.

There has to be a reason why rc describes the time he left work as "Such and Such" time. According to rc, LE wanted to know what took him so long getting home.

 

[Whisperer]

LE did not have to go through the effort to nail RC in a drug bust. If they thought this guy was legitimately cleared, they would have left him alone. LE believes he has information...even his plea deal suggests it.

 

[Chablis]

Hi MADJGNLAW, I do appreciate you posting the statments from LE and I fully realize LE has stated they do not consider Crystal or Ron to be suspects, however LE has NEVER stated they have cleared Ronald Cummings like some would like for us to believe is the case...JMHO
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What I don't get, is why cant some just concede that because this case is unknown and unsolved, how would the LE clear anyone, and who would clear the abnormal behavior of Ronald Cummings, I mean, he did not marry Misty to find out the truth, he already knows the truth, he basically admits it in the drug sting tapes where he "reassures" the UC that dope boys dont take your kids, thats not what happened. Personally I am here to bring Haleighs killer to justice, not make excuses for the heinous actions of the "adults" who were supposed to be taking care of her that night.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

What I don't get, is why cant some just concede that because this case is unknown and unsolved, how would the LE clear anyone, and who would clear the abnormal behavior of Ronald Cummings, I mean, he did not marry Misty to find out the truth, he already knows the truth, he basically admits it in the drug sting tapes where he "reassures" the UC that dope boys dont take your kids, thats not what happened. Personally I am here to bring Haleighs killer to justice, not make excuses for the heinous actions of the "adults" who were supposed to be taking care of her that night.

Right Chablis, and he did not refuse to talk to LE to find out the truth. He also did not encourage Misty to stop talking to LE to find out the truth. And he did not warn Misty that Donna Brock was a plant to find out the truth. and he did not couch Misty in the interviews with reporters to find out the truth. I could go on and on. Ron did not want the truth about what happened to his precious daughter to be known....Common sense... MOO

 

[mkay882]

You just stated kp's words were not substantiated, are yours? I don't know because you could be using Shoemaker's words which were given to him by his client. If you have any other information, please share.

There has to be a reason why rc describes the time he left work as "Such and Such" time. According to rc, LE wanted to know what took him so long getting home.

I was using Shoemaker's words.

Ron explained.
LE went and retrieved the video from the store.
Part of why he isn't considered a suspect.