Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat 100km NW of Melbourne, 4 Feb 2024

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A vigil has been held for Samantha Murphy in her home town of Ballarat as the investigation into the disappearance of the 51-year-old woman enters its second week.

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dozens gathered at the Buninyong Anglican Church near Ballarat to share their thoughts and prayers for the missing 51-year-old.

The vigil included a church service and songs in honour of Ms Murphy.



Edit: Accidentally posted at the same time as above …
 
The property in they are in was sold in 2021 for just over 2 million dollars. Quite a price as the avg house price in Ballarat is somewhere around 500-600k. I wonder if they moved for their business?
The company has been registered since 1967 on the ABN site. Can’t tell if it was a family business and was taken over by Mick.
 
so in a case like this even though family arent poi, would the house be searched and gone over with cadaver dogs and luminol etc, to rule family out?
I would hope so - even just to 100% rule out that anything had happened in the house. Surely the police would not just take whatever the family have said in their statements as being fact - I am not saying that the family statements are not true, but there have been plenty of people who have lied to the police in statements…
 
Sam was an aerobics instructor in a gym in Ballarat before she worked in the family smash repair business. No idea of the time frame though…. Obviously she was quite fit, at that time anyway.

The family business is quite large, as revealed in this article… employing 30 people.


 
By now, the police will be aware of any insurance policy's or endowments that can be realised on Samantha's passing. That is, who profits from her death, in fiscal or emotional terms. It's been long enough to figure that out, and how the mortgage on the home works, is a payout on the whole if one dies, etc, a lot of mortgage insurance is like that, mine is, which is why I keep myself well mannered most of the time, :oops:And usually the business, if run by both , has a line of credit, or an overdraft, and both would be insured on that, with the same deal,...if one passes on, the payout goes to the surviving partner....
It's a question that is routine to ask.

But it is getting towards day's end, and a hot long day coming up... these are not optimal survival conditions, not for anyone, not for a healthy 20 yr old bloke, and especially not a recently unwell 51 yr old woman.
 
I think that maybe it was that the police asked everyone to review their own footage. Now they are collecting the footage ... probably so they can go over it all for themselves for other clues (besides Samantha).

I am noticing again that first they were looking at "over the past six days" ... now they want to "review between 7am and 7pm".


'Even if the footage does not depict Samantha, detectives are keen to review all footage in the areas between 7am and 7pm on Sunday, 4 February,' police said in a statement.

'Police previously urged everyone in the Ballarat East and Mount Helen areas, particularly around the Canadian Forest, to check their CCTV for any possible sightings over the past six days; however, [we] would now like to collect all footage.'



If people have confirmed seeing her on Saturday (previous day) during her run and the mention of a suspicious man in the area. Wouldn't it be wise to ask for footage of the day before also? That would give LE a chance to piece together her route and/or this suspicious blokes whereabouts. Just a thought.
 
Sam was an aerobics instructor in a gym in Ballarat before she worked in the family smash repair business. No idea of the time frame though…. Obviously she was quite fit, at that time anyway.

The family business is quite large, as revealed in this article… employing 30 people.


A few little timeline details in that article too Marg…

During dinner with her husband Michael, known as Mick, and friends the night before, Murphy had revealed she’d worked her way up from a keen bushwalker to a more than capable runner. She announced she was planning a 14-kilometre run before the weather got too hot the next day.

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The search began after police received a report from the family on Sunday that Murphy was missing after she failed to show up to brunch.

When she still hadn’t made contact with loved ones by Monday morning, police put out a public appeal for information on her whereabouts



 
On the theory that someone has killed Samantha ..... they only have 24 hours in the day, just like anyone else, and this limits their capacity to move over the surface of the earth, just as it limits anyone else. They have to set out from a point of home, residence, to intercept with their target, and this takes time and leaves traces. Then they have to return to their base, in a geophysical sense. That is, within a certain radius, due to time constraints we all labour under. Time passes no quicker or slower for killers, or the killed, it follows the same inexorable clock.

On that basis, logically, it is someone local.. Someone who got out early and got home early. I do not think Samantha is going to be found out of state , somewhere up in NSW, or over in South Australia. She is around that area somewhere.
 
On the theory that someone has killed Samantha ..... they only have 24 hours in the day, just like anyone else, and this limits their capacity to move over the surface of the earth, just as it limits anyone else. They have to set out from a point of home, residence, to intercept with their target, and this takes time and leaves traces. Then they have to return to their base, in a geophysical sense. That is, within a certain radius, due to time constraints we all labour under. Time passes no quicker or slower for killers, or the killed, it follows the same inexorable clock.

On that basis, logically, it is someone local.. Someone who got out early and got home early. I do not think Samantha is going to be found out of state , somewhere up in NSW, or over in South Australia. She is around that area somewhere.
Not disagreeing, but it might be someone who can come and go without being missed--at any rate on a Sunday.
 
A few little timeline details in that article too Marg…

During dinner with her husband Michael, known as Mick, and friends the night before, Murphy had revealed she’d worked her way up from a keen bushwalker to a more than capable runner. She announced she was planning a 14-kilometre run before the weather got too hot the next day.

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The search began after police received a report from the family on Sunday that Murphy was missing after she failed to show up to brunch.

When she still hadn’t made contact with loved ones by Monday morning, police put out a public appeal for information on her whereabouts



In his favour, right? He didn't invent an exercise habit out of nothing to explain sudden disappearance while home.
 
Not disagreeing, but it might be someone who can come and go without being missed--at any rate on a Sunday.
If they are in a car, they are filmed. Coming up the freeway to Ballaarat from Melbourne, or coming down from St Armaud, or up from Geelong, they are being filmed and clocked all the way, up and back. Under time restraints... whizzing around Ballarat or Buniyong, same deal....
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If they are on foot, they are under greater time restraints, able perhaps to keep under the radar, so to speak, knowing the location of cameras, but again, it's the geophysical limits presented by the earth itself, the contours, and the conditions, and the situation of those feet. ....

Poor stupid Ristevski and ridiculous Baden Clay realised the very same problem when they had to hide their wife's bodies, so awks, you have to bundle them up, and hide and then find a place not to far away, because you have to be back for the kids, or a driving job,, or a meeting with the neighbors, or be at work, as if your day is going along as usual. ... logistics is what brings people undone every time.
 
If they are in a car, they are filmed. Coming up the freeway to Ballaarat from Melbourne, or coming down from St Armaud, or up from Geelong, they are being filmed and clocked all the way, up and back. Under time restraints... whizzing around Ballarat or Buniyong, same deal....
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If they are on foot, they are under greater time restraints, able perhaps to keep under the radar, so to speak, knowing the location of cameras, but again, it's the geophysical limits presented by the earth itself, the contours, and the conditions, and the situation of those feet. ....

Poor stupid Ristevski and ridiculous Baden Clay realised the very same problem when they had to hide their wife's bodies, so awks, you have to bundle them up, and hide and then find a place not to far away, because you have to be back for the kids, or a driving job,, or a meeting with the neighbors, or be at work, as if your day is going along as usual. ... logistics is what brings people undone every time.

It could be someone who lives on the outskirts of town, owns a rather large rural property. It could be someone who owns a second property / family beach house and this person can come and go as they please.

My gut tells me the husband isn't capable of pulling this off in such a short time frame.
 
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