Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #10

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SeaNymph said:
As far as whether they had consulted one, I thought I had heard they had. Just found this.

http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S1174926.shtml?cat=566



Another link referencing it, with name of psychic:
http://www.carolinalive.com/news/story.aspx?id=366536
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You are correct, there was several that was gotten by DD to help in first few months, and even one off the Mauvey show sent one he one told DD that he felt BD spirit etc right in front of hotel (PB) so yes there were several on this case!!! never knock natural we do not know if people can be called for a special talent etc,,,,,God Is Great!! he had followers to do his work!!!
 
Just following a couple of links on the case I read something thats worth a thought: I dont know what the current 'reward' is for Brittanee, almost sure it is for her safe return, but wonder if offering up a couple of thousand for simply resolution would motivate any of the POI? Might be surprised. I certainly wouldnt want a guilty party to walk away with a pocket full of cash but never know who has told what to in this case, especially if its a bunch of kids surviving by street hustles.
 
SeaNymph said:
Just following a couple of links on the case I read something thats worth a thought: I dont know what the current 'reward' is for Brittanee, almost sure it is for her safe return, but wonder if offering up a couple of thousand for simply resolution would motivate any of the POI? Might be surprised. I certainly wouldnt want a guilty party to walk away with a pocket full of cash but never know who has told what to in this case, especially if its a bunch of kids surviving by street hustles.
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***** at the end of 2009 there was 11,000.00 reward,,but i cant find any news now saying if the reward is still available
 
SeaNymph said:
Just following a couple of links on the case I read something thats worth a thought: I dont know what the current 'reward' is for Brittanee, almost sure it is for her safe return, but wonder if offering up a couple of thousand for simply resolution would motivate any of the POI? Might be surprised. I certainly wouldnt want a guilty party to walk away with a pocket full of cash but never know who has told what to in this case, especially if its a bunch of kids surviving by street hustles.
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Let's that's all it takes.
 
I have been as bizzy as a bee the past few days and am just checking in. I see there is nothing new so I am bumping up for Brittanee!

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Gonna rehash some stuff in a hopes of keeping this thread moving.

Several months ago (around the time of the meeting of MBPD, CPD & GTPD) that it was believed she was "taken" off the street. At least one member of LE has recently used the term "abduction" in BD's case.

It has also been said that BD did not know her "abductors" directly. So if she didn't know them directly - she knew them through someone else? Was this someone she was with on the trip or was this someone she had met while there in MB?

Somehow BD knew or knew of these people (going by the comment by LE). So why would LE believe that BD was abducted?

Apparently no one on the strip witnessed a struggle. No one on the strip witnessed any screaming or loud noises. No one saw BD being grabbed and thrown into a vehicle. No one saw BD being pulled into a vehicle.

So if BD didn't go with these people who she didn't know directly without a struggle of some kind, then how did they get her?

When BD exited the BWR did she stay on that side of the street or did she cross OB for some reason? Was someone lying in wait in the Hurl Rock Park parking lot? (Which is next door to the BWR). Was someone waiting in that eerie looking alley that we saw in the vigil pics? Was someone in one of the parking garages that has an entrance/exit right onto OB?

What kind of vehicles would have been the easiest to get someone into (especially going unnoticed if this was an out and out abduction).

If there are 3 to 4 POI could there have been 2 vehicles? 1 to cause a distraction if need be? Or one to help shield the view of what was taking place in another vehicle?

If these 3 or 4 POI's knew BD indirectly...

Did they know she was there and basically alone walking the strip? Did they overhear her talking to someone about being in MB without her parents permission? Did they overhear that she was upset/mad at the people she came with? Did they stalk her?

If they didn't, how would these 3 / 4 POI's know that she would be walking alone on that evening - and when she would be walking - and where she would be walking to and from? How were they to know that she'd only be staying a few minutes in PB's hotel room? How would they have known that BD wasn't staying for a while or going elsewhere with those guys?

Were these POI's prepared to wait it out? Or was BD just a convenient target in the right time and place? Was she hooked up with these folks for some reason?

If PB did offer BD a ride and she didn't accept...why would she willingly accept a ride from someone else - someone she knows indirectly (or that knows her indirectly)?

LE has said that they have 3 or 4 POI's and what was it - 20 other people talking/giving some kind of info? Could there have been a party? (Seems like to me this is the right number of people for a party).

Graeme Moore says Detectives are handling this as a homicide investigation (not murder). So whatever happened to BD was unintended?

Party "goods" gone bad? Fight? Rape/rough sex? A fall? Accidental drowning? Jumps out/falls out/gets pushed out of a moving vehicle? 4-wheeling accident? Got too close to a bonfire?

If this was a homicide and not murder (which both results in death only in different ways) - then why does LE believe that BD was abducted/did not go willingly?

IMHO if one is abducted and dies that would be murder. If one goes willingly and something happens to result in death then that would be homicide.
 
Graeme Moore says Detectives are handling this as a homicide investigation (not murder). So whatever happened to BD was unintended?

*** dumb question___ whats the diff between murder and homicie?

i mean dont they mean the seem? as in kill?
 
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/73160/homicide_vs_murder_the_differences.html

Most people use the words “murder” and “homicide” interchangeably, but they are not the same. Although murder and homicide are both used to describe the act of killing another human being, the circumstances surrounding the charges are different.

The easiest way to describe the differences between murder and homicide is that homicide is the killing of another human being, while murder requires the intent to kill another human being. Homicide can be used to describe any death where another person is at fault, but there are mitigating circumstances that can influence the charge of homicide. When someone is convicted of murder, however, they are not only convicted of a homicide, but also the malicious intent to kill.

(more at link)
 
MBLover said:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/73160/homicide_vs_murder_the_differences.html

Most people use the words “murder” and “homicide” interchangeably, but they are not the same. Although murder and homicide are both used to describe the act of killing another human being, the circumstances surrounding the charges are different.

The easiest way to describe the differences between murder and homicide is that homicide is the killing of another human being, while murder requires the intent to kill another human being. Homicide can be used to describe any death where another person is at fault, but there are mitigating circumstances that can influence the charge of homicide. When someone is convicted of murder, however, they are not only convicted of a homicide, but also the malicious intent to kill.

(more at link)
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Ok thanks i got it now :-)
 
I am not sure whether police call it any different then a homicide investigation. IMO I don't believe they define it when investigating. I think they only have homicide detectives (not murder detectives).

I think they start calling it homicide, murder, or something else when it is ready to go to court or someone is actually charged with a crime. I don't believe a reporter is getting down to that nitty gritty yet- especially without the facts of what happened yet. Of course this is all just IMHO


MBLover said:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/73160/homicide_vs_murder_the_differences.html

Most people use the words “murder” and “homicide” interchangeably, but they are not the same. Although murder and homicide are both used to describe the act of killing another human being, the circumstances surrounding the charges are different.

The easiest way to describe the differences between murder and homicide is that homicide is the killing of another human being, while murder requires the intent to kill another human being. Homicide can be used to describe any death where another person is at fault, but there are mitigating circumstances that can influence the charge of homicide. When someone is convicted of murder, however, they are not only convicted of a homicide, but also the malicious intent to kill.

(more at link)
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MBLover, as far as the terms directly vs. indirectly - I have thought about this scenario and it is the only thing I can come up with that makes any sense...

I've never heard exactly who was in that room at BWR. Were they only NY residents? People PB knew from the MB area? I dont know but I'm going to go out on a limb. Could others have been in the room when she was there, heard what I am going to assume was an agitated/aggravated/tense phone call going down with the girls calling her back to BH, crowded room, lots of talking...someone in there knows she's getting ready to hit the street (regardless of whether they heard PB offer a ride or not, or whether that actually happened - doesnt matter)...they preemptively exit the room knowing/suspecting/hoping she will be leaving alone shortly. This person could have pretended to be completely oblivious to what was going on with her, but they were paying attention..."Hey man, I gotta hit the road."...That person exits, gets to their car and just waits for her to leave, may even let her walk a block or so, pulls up, "Hey, you want a ride? I'm heading that way."

That's just crossed my mind. If anyone knows for certain there were only NY guys in that room the whole time she was there, my possible scenario is shot, but it's just the only thing I can think of to half-way make sense at this point.
 
SeaNymph, I agree with you. This is the scenario that has played through my mind as well......the only one that makes much sense to me anyway.
 
I can see PB kinking up if someone, a local he met thru Kryptonite or on the beach, was in that room for nefarious reasons that night who crossed paths with Brittanee. I seriously doubt he would have come clean with LE if they questioned who was there...You think he's going to put his behind in a sling to say 'Oh my boy from Club K was there hookin me up, that's all.' ?

That scenario, or maybe her running into someone else who was staying at BWR on her exit that maybe she had met thru those guys the day before, but still, we have LE with POI's in N. Santee. Then again, the guys from NY could have made fast friends with a worker at BWR to get the local connection, could have made friends with people hanging out at Hurl Rock. I think that is a public beach access. Closest point someone coming up to MB from the G'town area to park and hit the strip/beach where there is any kind of action happening. For that matter, it could be a hotspot for dealers. It's basically a big parking lot with a couple of gazebos and boardwalks down to the beach, IIRC. The NY guys could have met them, seen them during the time Friday when she was there, friendly familiar interaction with them when she was there, she was familiar with their faces and accepted a ride...I'm just trying to think of how many 'indirect' contacts there could be in only a few days at the beach with this crowd.
 
PB never alluded to anyone else being in that room - besides the 4 other guys who he was with and they were all from ROC (or surrounding area)

There was PB, AS, KC, PW & MA

Of course there could have been someone else there - possibly exiting about the time BD came in or leaving shortly thereafter.

If there was someone else there (or others) - this could be the "not directly" that LE has referred to.
 
Could that be why he 'lawyered up' so quickly after getting back to NY...by revealing exactly who was in the room he would have had to explain why, thereby incriminating himself in a drug deal, for example? All the guys would have had to get the story straight but basically just erase a visit from any locals from their memories that evening - like it never even happened.

I hope it's OK to speculate to this extent, and I clearly state, that is all I am doing - wondering/pondering the what ifs. I don't know any of this happened for a fact.
 
Sea - you've brought up a couple of great points! Def. continue to speculate...that's all we've got...until we get further info.
 
From the Dr. Phil transcripts:

“Of course, I’m concerned about Brittanee. That girl is a nice girl. But when I was in the room with four other kids, they’re all with me the whole night, and then all of a sudden my name is mentioned as a person of interest, when there is absolutely no evidence,” Peter explains. “My family is going through hell right now. People look at me differently walking down the street. You can just imagine how I feel.”

(showing he didn't mention others - although there could have been and we just don't know about it)
 
Hurl Rock Park is surrounded by some fairly tall and thick shrubbery...

When I pulled into that parking lot for the 1 yr. vigil, there were several other vehicles there, but the lot was not full by any means. I'm guessing maybe 40 vehicles could park here? (Parking is free after 7 PM)

One has to walk up several steps to a large landing and then over and down the other side to get to the beach. So no one on the beach would see who is in the parking lot...and no one in the parking lot can see down to the beach. It's a relatively secluded little area.

I don't know how well this parking lot is lit at night - maybe a local can say? - I left there while it was still light (after the vigil).
 
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