SC - Columbia - Sheriff Slams Female Student to Floor In Class

[al66pine]

Teaching kids they have to do everything an adult tells them to do is setting them up. JMO.

When this LEO/SRO told/announced to this student that he was arresting her (azz-uming he did), was he 'setting' her 'up?' How? In what way? Thx in adv.

Agreeing w ^ post - teaching kids "they have to do everything an adult tells them to do" may be setting them up to comply w unreasonable, possibly illegal, requests.

But what was unreasonable or illegal about teacher's and vice-prin's previous requests to student to not use cell, to stop talking, to be quiet, not to disrupt class, what-ev phrases they used? Ditto, SRO request?
Thx in adv.

 

[KaaBoom]

Watching the videos here from different angles it is obvious that no one else in the class room seemed or looked surprised as it was happening, as if it was expected, I can't imagine being that defiant. And the man in the white shirt, (teacher?) doesn't seemed to be shocked at all. It looks as if all were OK with what happened except for her. Cell phones should NOT be allowed in school or work for that matter.

http://www.live5news.com/story/3036...following-spring-valley-use-of-force-incident

They weren’t surprised, because as one student said, they knew what was going to happen. They knew his reputation. Thats why they all started recording.

 

[Montjoy]

They weren’t surprised, because as one student said, they knew what was going to happen. They knew his reputation. Thats why they all started recording.

Thinking back to my teenage years, in situations like that, one just wants to be invisible. It's embarrassing seeing a classmate getting in trouble. And with what appears to be a short-fused, violent bully in the room, you don't want to be the next person attacked. After all, they did arrest someone who spoke up about how the LEO was acting -- she's lucky she didn't get punched in the face by him.

 

[al66pine]

Some people are just programed to do that. If the cop had pulled out his gun and put a bullet in her head at point blank range, they would still defend the cop. Hey if she had just done what he told her to do she wouldn’t be dead.

Some ppl? If anyone here on W/S was 'programmed to do that' (justify a police officer abusing power, e.g. putting bullet into this student's head in this circumstance), pls provide post # and user name. I've missed it.

And which 'she' is dead? Trying to catch up, but appears I've also missed that. Thx in adv.

 

[Montjoy]

Some ppl? If anyone here on W/S was 'programmed to do that' (justify a police officer abusing power, e.g. putting bullet into this student's head in this circumstance), pls provide post # and user name. I've missed it.

And which 'she' is dead? Trying to catch up, but appears I've also missed that. Thx in adv.

Not to speak for Kaboom, but the 'she' who is dead was a hypothetical 'she'.

And I agree with the general argument that some people appear to defend LEOs no matter how damning the evidence is against them, but I'm not willing to re-read so many posts to find them (and many of those threads are locked and gathering dust, now).

 

[al66pine]

He should have had a female cop come by to facilitate this matter. But men shouldn't be allowed to body slam teen females. Jmo

Female Cop?
In reviewing https://www.richland2.org/svh/Pages/staffdirectory.aspx
I did not see any 'female cop' who (presumably) would have been on premises to 'facilitate this matter.'
Maybe I missed it. Anyone? Thx in adv.

 

[bluesneakers]

Some ppl? If anyone here on W/S was 'programmed to do that' (justify a police officer abusing power, e.g. putting bullet into this student's head in this circumstance), pls provide post # and user name. I've missed it.

And which 'she' is dead? Trying to catch up, but appears I've also missed that. Thx in adv.

The "she" referenced in the previous sentence. (modsnip)


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[al66pine]

As a retired teacher this makes me sick.
The people in that school need trainng on how to deal with students.
Here is one idea.
http://acestoohigh.com/2012/04/23/l...oach-to-school-discipline-expulsions-drop-85/

Yes, it is one idea and sounds good. Does it work 100% of the time, per legit peer-reviewed studies? 90%? 80%? 70% 60%? 50%? IDK. More at http://acestoohigh.com/. I'd like to know more about blog author. Thx in adv.

 

[bluesneakers]

Female Cop?
In reviewing https://www.richland2.org/svh/Pages/staffdirectory.aspx
I did not see any 'female cop' who (presumably) would have been on premises to 'facilitate this matter.'
Maybe I missed it. Anyone? Thx in adv.

No female SRO on duty? What do they do when it's time for frisking?


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[al66pine]

A scary thought when you consider that police officers commit sexual assaults at a higher rate than the general population. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that about teachers, too. One reads stories about this happening every week.

Respectfully, a link to LEO's 'higher rate' of sexual assaults than gen pop.
While you're looking, a link re this LEO committing sexual assault against this student. I missed it.

Or is statistic, if accurate, irrelevant to this student and this LEO/SRO? Thx in adv.

 

[Elley Mae]

They weren’t surprised, because as one student said, they knew what was going to happen. They knew his reputation. Thats why they all started recording.

BBm Reading that makes me want to say, Sounds like a set up then. I do wonder, Was he set up? I mean what did she think was going to happen when she refused to first put the phone away, then she refuses to get up, what in gawd's name did she think was going to happen next? Other then to get 15 minutes. jmo idk just say'in you never know.

 

[bluesneakers]

BBm Reading that makes me want to say, Sounds like a set up then. I do wonder, Was he set up? I mean what did she think was going to happen when she refused to first put the phone away, then she refuses to get up, what in gawd's name did she think was going to happen next? Other then to get 15 minutes. jmo idk just say'in you never know.

You believe he's done this before and she knew it was coming, so she set the whole thing up in order to have it filmed? Interesting theory.

 

[Montjoy]

Respectfully, a link to LEO's 'higher rate' of sexual assaults than gen pop.

http://www.policemisconduct.net/2010-q3-national-police-misconduct-statistical-report/
(see Figure 10)

https://www.thenation.com/article/police-violence-we-arent-talking-about/

http://www.newsweek.com/police-sexual-assault-rape-justice-258130

 

[WideOpen]

I have also "wondered" if this was a possible set up considering the upcoming trial in Jan. (sorry no link at this time)
I expect to hear some support for this man from other students.
These cops in the school always rubbed me wrong when my daughters were in middle and high school. It made me uncomfortable because in my educational years we had none. But, after spending enough time at schools watching these school cops interact with the students what I witnessed was rapport building and a friendly interaction between the students and these officers. I raised 6 daughters and if one of mine had behaved this way I would have been horrified-at her actions. While the violence may have been extreme, I would support the cop and "hope" she learned a valuable lesson. To me it is about choices and personal accountability. Your choices define you. Better make wise ones.

JMO

 

[KaaBoom]

BBm Reading that makes me want to say, Sounds like a set up then. I do wonder, Was he set up? I mean what did she think was going to happen when she refused to first put the phone away, then she refuses to get up, what in gawd's name did she think was going to happen next? Other then to get 15 minutes. jmo idk just say'in you never know.

I doubt it, but if it was a set up, he sure fell into her trap easy.

 

[Brightbird]

How could you not, it begs one to wonder. JMO

I just think police should obey the law and their codes of conduct and be held accountable if they break those. It's a radical idea, I know.

 

[nomoresorrow]

I work with "at-promise" teens in alternative incaration programs and I can tell you that I handle these type of situations nearly every single day (i.e., no cell phones allowed in groups...) and I have never laid a hand on one of these kids or called upon an LEO to do so when met with resistance to following group rules. It's obvious that this officer lacks appropriate training because two of the most fundamental rules when working with this age group are (1) don't make it a power struggle and (2) don't take their actions or inactions personally - he immediately did both. Working with challenging teens takes time AND patience, two qualities he appears to have very little of.
JMO ~

 

[Elley Mae]

I just think police should obey the law and their codes of conduct and be held accountable if they break those. It's a radical idea, I know.

I just think (people) should obey the law and their codes of conduct and be held accountable if they break those. Nothing radical about it, more like common sense.

She was in control the whole time, I do wonder how long before the teacher asked for help did she perform? She could have put the phone away. She did not listen to the teacher. She did not listen to the officer. She got what she asked for. jmo

bbm She could have put the phone away and avoided the whole thing, she chose to defy authority.

 

[leah]

She could have put the phone down, do we have any idea why she chose not to? And the cop could have acted saner instead of letting anger win over the situation. I will never understand why violence like this is okay.

 

[Bravo]

A power struggle is a no win situation. Challenging her at that point of defiance only escalates the situation. I'm sorry for the cop who lost it as I can understand how he lost it. I dont support a hands on solution to be clear.