Hey all, I'm a newbie so please be patient with me
I've been lurking for a while to get caught up and see how this works. If I'm breaking any rules it's not intentional.
I lived and went to college in MB ( I don't know anyone involved in the case).
Her being out that late and her perceived "lifestyle" that some outside of WS are commenting on is not out of the ordinary for people that age in MB. There are thousands who are just like HE, so I don't give it that much thought.
Also, I don't think the IE charges are as related as some might think. I don't think they are of them in wet clothes changing, why would they drive that far to do it in a public place when their house is closer, safer, and far more convenient. I have a feeling that because no one called the police on them at the time ( I can't find any incident reports from the time, aside from the arrest records) that they were based on phone or surveillance evidence. While I haven't ruled out in my head that they were somehow sick and perverted, the more logical aspect of my thought process leads me to believe that they were more of a way to arrest and hold the Ms (to get them nervous/talking, to eliminate flight risk, tampering of evidence, etc) rather than because they are directly related. It's not uncommon for police to dig up dirt on suspects to charge them with something technically unrelated in order to move forward with things without having to officially charge them with their suspicions until they're ready.
Because murder charges without remains are rare, it leads me to believe that the Ms messed up bigtime somewhere, even if they thought they were being smart. The police wouldn't have charged them unless they found evidence that proved beyond reasonable doubt that HE was in fact deceased.
Because the Kidnapping charges came first, I have a feeling that they found a lot of circumstantial evidence (probably more than we realize) like her phone, clothing, keys etc. and when they searched the house and cars found the evidence that can prove murder. Part of me feels like she's in the PTL area, but another part of me thinks that the Ms know the area really well and know that while it does seem out in nowhere land, it does get a lot of boating traffic and such. While they know it would be possible for her to never be found, I think they would have also thought about the fact that with all the people in the river and nearby waterways, she could also easily be spotted, depending on currents, storms, debris, etc. The only thing I've seen is that police believe that she was kidnapped and killed there, not disposed of.
I wonder if SM and HE had met at PTL before. It's a relatively private place nearby both of their residences, so if they had, HE might not have thought twice about meeting him there.
No matter what, I have a feeling that when all is said and done things will be revealed that will make sense of it all and blow is all away at the same time. Sorry that got long, but that's my two cents.