SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 #27***ARREST**

[baltolady]

so sorry! I'll have surgery Thursday to implant a spinal cord neurostimulator. I'm freeeeeeaked out. need to get groceries so hubby doesn't spend a thousand bucks feeding my crew fast food! ugh.

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floridamomma, I am sending you bunches and tons of good recovery and best health wishes!!!!!


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[SharetheLight]

Oh no! There is a thread for that?

Wish i didn't know that.

No work for me today. :tantrum:

Haha I thought the same thing when I read that. Wow!

 

[SharetheLight]

Based on Hoppy's post, even if they bonded out, could there still be more charges coming?? Maybe federal?? Just a thought ...

Although I really hope they get denied bond altogether!! lease:

Maybe that's why they've waited on the federal charges. In case they bond out on these charges. Just a thought.

 

[Makaroni]

Maybe that's why they've waited on the federal charges. In case they bond out on these charges. Just a thought.

Exactly what I was thinking ...

 

[SharetheLight]

Here it is the middle of March and we have another snow day. Even though I've cleared my schedule, the kids are now home from school due to snow. I'm currently searching out good hiding spots for 2:00 lol

 

[Lovejac]

On a four o'clock rush clean, have you ever checked out FlyLady's Crisis Cleaning 101? I adore her. You can get your house presentable in 45 minutes. She talks you through it ALL. Try it, you'll be hooked. It's my go-to for "surprise" visitors.

I adore FlyLady! I just did my mission in Zone 4 :wink:

 

[stillwatersc]

Been away all weekend & catching up so I have just a few comments....

Judging from LE's behavior only, I'm going to guess that both IE's happened before PTL. The M's may have left their phones at home or turned them off when they went to PTL. OR the M's phones went to PTL and then home.

So I see two possible scenarios here. . .they put HE in the river at PTL or somewhere between PTL and their home. . .or they took her home and hid her at a later time. :sigh:

I think they had their phones on during the IE, but turned them off before they went to meet Heather.

Maybe BB was posting some "inside" intel. Seems some of what he posted did come to fruition, the one's it was directed towards were arrested. And as we hear more and more, we're finding out the conditions the family were living in. Obviously now we know that there was a tremendous amount of investigating going on!

Maybe some of BB's "inside" intel came from the independent investigation that he got arrested for. He may have been interviewing someone who told him about the condition inside the Moorer's home or other info that lead to his "prophetic" FB post. (JMOO)

Interesting. Contrast the phrase in that article "Truslow said the few details that were made available to him left him "perplexed" as to why his client would be named a suspect."

with this article:

"After sitting down for the first time with Sidney Moorer this weekend, his defense attorney Kirk Truslow said he was able to go through some of the evidence the prosecution has collected so far.

Upon seeing the evidence, he believes the case will go to trial."
http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24810574/inside-the-courtroom-murder-charges-read-for-the-first-time-in-front-of-elvis-family

In the article I posted, Sidney's attorney doesn't seem to be perplexed anymore if he now thinks the case will go to trial. IMO, he must have seen some evidence that looks like it IS evidence.

Are there other options than a plea deal or trial? If the evidence is really that weak, wouldn't it be likely for the case to never go to trial? Can't the judge or GJ dismiss everything? Can someone with legal knowledge answer this?

According to this link, in SC a county Grand Jury "decides whether a person charged with a serious crime will be tried". For the defense attorney to say he thinks it will go to trial indicates that he believes there is enough evidence for the GJ to indict. Correct?
http://www.judicial.state.sc.us/forms/pdf/SCCA238.pdf

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Gag orders are a form of prior restraint that prohibit parties, lawyers, prosecutors, witnesses, law enforcement officials, jurors and others from talking to the press.

Would TE be able to still talk to the media? Would he be considered a witness?

Find out who the order gags and what restrictions it places on the gagged individuals.

http://www.rcfp.org/first-amendment...f-court-issues-gag-order#sthash.O3UZT7Yy.dpuf

In addition, a gag order instituted in a legal setting may ban the media from reporting information associated with the case.

http://court.laws.com/gag-order#sthash.fjxCytS0.dpuf

 

[Leilei]

rsbm:

There is a thread in the Jodi Arias Trial forum that addresses the boyfriend/husband/meals etc issue.

Many of us can give you the "4 o'clock rush" tips and tricks to WS clean in a hurry.

You must also learn how to "power nap", so you can get your WS fix in the wee hours of the morning- do the laundry at the same time, as well as make lunches. Sleep is over rated. The Aussies and Kiwis are a trip- worth staying up


Soon you will be a crockpot gourmet, and showering at 4:15pm ( or 4:15am if you work) becomes a habit.

Ask significant other questions you know they can answer about cases; about cars, mens' habits, math, whatever. Hang on their every word- heck, write down what they say while you state "The Ladies will be so happy to have an expert opinion!" Key to their acceptance of your addiction is making them feel included, intelligent, and important.

Those pesky friends of his that want him to come over and watch the game/go to the game, work on the car, etc etc...are now your favorite people! Let them have him! Hours of uninterrupted WS!

This should be stickied for posterity :floorlaugh::loveyou:

 

[lstiff]

I can only imagine how fast this thread will move tomorrow. I just hope it will be slow at work tomorrow so I can keep up. It literally took me more than a week to catch up when the murder charges were announced.

ETA: I also wanted to mention that my boyfriend probably wishes I had never found Websleuths back in December. He used to be a pretty good listener until every other conversation began with "I read on Websleuths..." And now that I've started following the missing Malaysian flight thread, in addition to this one and the parking lot, I don't really have any time to even start a conversation, period.

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This is me. I was more counting down to today for the bond hearing than St Patrick's Day and my friend's birthday. I am so obsessed with the missing flight, I can barely find time to have a conversation without bringing it up. Hopefully the day will be one with good news (I am doubting this based on the recent news of a gag order) Happy Monday peeps!

 

[sophiebelle]

I thought the hearing was this morning and I postponed my grocery shopping for my disabled parents, until this afternoon. Then I see this 2pm post. So I called to make sure they had enough toilet paper (1st on the list), until I can go later. 2pm is not convenient for ME, since it's usually not on time anyway!! The caregiver said there was no milk and barely any tp. (I'm now guilt-ridden)

 

[Sweetgrass]

I adore FlyLady! I just did my mission in Zone 4 :wink:

She is seriously like my BFF and we've never met. I probably would have been the star on an episode of Hoarders without her firm, yet sweet, guidance. My hubby loves her, too, he just doesn't know it.

 

[TedMac]

Would TE be able to still talk to the media? Would he be considered a witness?



http://www.rcfp.org/first-amendment...f-court-issues-gag-order#sthash.O3UZT7Yy.dpuf



http://court.laws.com/gag-order#sthash.fjxCytS0.dpuf

Gag Orders are usually placed on the involved Attorneys (Prosecution & Defense) and LE only. However, in certain cases it can apply to others.

 

[SStarr33]

Gag Orders are usually placed on the involved Attorneys (Prosecution & Defense) and LE only. However, in certain cases it can apply to others.

Hopefully not to WS

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Gag Orders are usually placed on the involved Attorneys (Prosecution & Defense) and LE only. However, in certain cases it can apply to others.

Thanks. But if the purpose of a gag order is to limit the media coverage so the defendants can get a fair trial, would they issue a stricter one if the case was still over the news afterwards? Its not like LE or the attorneys are constantly speaking out in this case right now.

 

[AndiLA]

You're very good at prioritizing!

haha...I have to be, otherwise I'd get sucked into this rabbit hole and never find my way out. I love websleuths, but it ain't gonna pay the bills or clean my house. My poor boyfriend doesn't get to spend my days off with me because I spend them catching up on a week's worth of WS posts. :floorlaugh:

 

[nancy57]

Badly decomposed body found in North Carolina.

http://www.starnewsonline.com/artic...716/1177?Title=Body-found-on-Bald-Head-Island

 

[MommyPlatt]

Great article in the Columbia paper:
http://www.thestate.com/2014/03/17/3331145/without-key-evidence-elvis-pipkin.html

 

[Oreolover]

Are there other options than a plea deal or trial? If the evidence is really that weak, wouldn't it be likely for the case to never go to trial? Can't the judge or GJ dismiss everything? Can someone with legal knowledge answer this?

The options: no indictment by grand jury, plea deal, trial or dismissal. The solicitor CAN dismiss a case, but is highly unlikely to do so when the case has drawn this much attention. Can you imagine the public outcry if this were dismissed? A solicitor (particularly in an election year) would rather put the case up for trial, having a jury make the decision, instead of risking the wrath of the public voters.
According to this link, in SC a county Grand Jury "decides whether a person charged with a serious crime will be tried". For the defense attorney to say he thinks it will go to trial indicates that he believes there is enough evidence for the GJ to indict. Correct?
http://www.judicial.state.sc.us/forms/pdf/SCCA238.pdf

The standard for the grand jury is basically: if law enforcement is telling the truth, and taking that truth in the light most favorable to the state, is it likely that a crime was committed and that these defendants committed this crime. The standard rules of evidence do not apply. Grand juries indict about 99.5% of the cases brought before them.

The standard is obviously much higher in a trial.

I'm new to posting here, so some of my comments are in the quote. Sorry

 

[sls9193]

I just thought of something and I'm not sure if it's been brought up yet. TM claimed that people were stalking her house, vandalizing, etc., but it had been said that LE had been keeping an eye on the M's for a while. Neighbors also said the police being there wasn't a new thing. What I'm asking is if LE had been physically watching their house and their moves, not just tracking or anything, wouldn't they have seen whoever was supposedly messing with the M's house? Does that make sense?


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