SC - Nine killed in Emanuel AME Church shooting, Charleston; Dylann Roof charged #2

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Meet the anonymous online sleuths who dug up Dylann Roof’s deranged manifesto
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...s-who-dug-up-dylann-roofs-deranged-manifesto/


From the article:
On 4chan and Infowars, anonymous opponents accuse the pair of having faked Roof’s Web site to advance some kind of anti-white agenda. They’ve been called Russian spies, “traitors” and anti-Semites.

I wonder if Roof can use this as a possible defense. I know the FBI confirmed it was his manifesto. The manifesto that I read was a simple text document. Although there was discussion about metadata, time-stamps on the photos, there was no discussion about a time-stap on the text document. I hope there is evidence that it was uploaded prior to the murders. (I'm not implying that Roof didn't write it. I'm just hoping that the defense can't dispute it )
 
It's been almost a week. Has Roof even been formally charged yet? How did he plead? What is the name of his defense lawyer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arraignment
Arraignment is a formal reading of a criminal charging document in the presence of the defendant to inform the defendant of the charges against them. In response to arraignment, the accused is expected to enter a plea.


http://www.aol.com/article/2015/06/...ing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec3_lnk4&pLid=-473309966
Shelby Police Chief Jeff H. Ledford said 21-year-old Dylann Roof would be charged either when the plane transporting him landed in South Carolina or when it entered South Carolina airspace.
Roof has waived his right to counsel, meaning he will either represent himself or hire his own lawyer.
An assistant clerk in North Carolina says the extradition hearing for suspect in the fatal shooting of nine people at a historic black church lasted just 10 minutes....

Roof has had an Extradition Hearing in Shelby and a Bond Hearing in Charleston. But still nothing about his Arraignment Hearing, where he is formally charged with his crimes. It is inconceivable to me that they would allow Roof NOT to have a lawyer, to avoid any future controversy about lack of legal counsel.
 
Except the original police report clearly says he was arrested for possession of Cocaine and L S D(and possibly Meth)--which are felonies! Now you see it, Now you don't!
 
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ABC News ‏@ABC 8m8 minutes ago

Newly-released dash cam video shows arrest of alleged Charleston church gunman: http://abcn.ws/1e1QGXy
 
This is old news so I'm sure it's been discussed.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/us-to-fast-track-us-29-mi/1928916.html

Excerpt:

"WASHINGTON: The Justice Department will fast track the sending of US$29 million to South Carolina to help families of victims of the mass murder of nine churchgoers at a historic black church in Charleston..."
-Reuters


That's appx $3,000,000 per family! No wonder the families were so quick to forgive "what's his name".
 
This is old news so I'm sure it's been discussed.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/us-to-fast-track-us-29-mi/1928916.html

Excerpt:

"WASHINGTON: The Justice Department will fast track the sending of US$29 million to South Carolina to help families of victims of the mass murder of nine churchgoers at a historic black church in Charleston..."
-Reuters


That's appx $3,000,000 per family! No wonder the families were so quick to forgive "what's his name".
That doesn't make a particle of sense. Everybody, right wing, left wing, blogs, msm, and the false flag people are "reprinting" the same thing from the one source said to be Reuters. One article identified the source for the article as Kevin Lewis press spokesman for the Department of Justice. However, there is no indication of such an action when one goes to the department's website.

I think its a phoney story planted to cause outrage.
 
It's widely reported, but it is not earmarked exclusively for the 9 victim's families. It is a grant to help all victims of the shooting, including those that survived as well as other victims in other parts of the state of South Carolina. I would guess it also will be used to cover administrative overhead of administering the funds to the victims.

http://abcnewsradioonline.com/natio...ending-29-million-to-south-carolina-in-w.html

[video=twitter;612022473786290176]https://twitter.com/TheJusticeDept/status/612022473786290176[/video]
 
And, just as the Department of Justice has no such news release, neither does Reuters.com. Not one of their 45 articles I was able to bring up indicates any such story. I am not going to read all 45 articles unless someone pays me, but headlines indicate nothing of the sort contained in any of the articles.
 
Perhaps all suspects are not treated the same. From the Charlotte Observer (a better than average newspaper, I'd reckon):
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article24952345.html

"In Shelby, the FBI handled Roof’s initial questioning, Ledford said. Shelby police’s lone conversation with the mass-murder suspect was about food. Earlier in the day, Roof had bought water and chips at a south Charlotte gas station. Now he was hungry. Police bought him food from a nearby Burger King, Ledford said."

Personally, I'm not opposed to LE buying food for a suspect, if they think it will help them with rapport or gaining a confession later, and custody is also about taking care of someone. I do wonder how universal this practice is.

I'm not judging, but I'm wondering.

You can't allow suspects to go hungry or thirsty in America. It is cruel and unusual punishment.
 
[video=twitter;612022473786290176]https://twitter.com/TheJusticeDept/status/612022473786290176[/video]
Well, that's interesting. Didn't occur to me to look for Justice Department news on Twitter. I wonder when it will be posted on their official website? I think normally there is an application process with deadlines.
 
OH my he is sporting he Capri pants looks when arrested --- that is just funny !


[h=1]Dash cam videos show arrest of Dylann Roof [/h]

[video=youtube;j5hQYy9Q-Wk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5hQYy9Q-Wk[/video]
 
CNN Breaking News ‏@cnnbrk 2m2 minutes ago

South Carolina's leading politicians to call for removal of Confederate flag. Watch CNNgo: http://cnn.it/go .

Ugh, its so repulisve - flag up, down, in, out, who cares. Politicians and CNN drag this stupid stuff thro the mud , means nothing, nothing changes, take the flag down, same crap, leave the flag up, same crap, politicians so quick talks; show run with the popular sentiment of the moment, and then go on vacation --- its pathetic , and thats why we all are so busy here the last year .

Do something meaningful elected folks - bunch of silliness.....................flag means nothing as it relates to the huge problem America is really dealing with - its pathetic they get away it (politicians) ...

Time for July 4 vacation..........barf
 
It's been almost a week. Has Roof even been formally charged yet? How did he plead? What is the name of his defense lawyer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arraignment
Arraignment is a formal reading of a criminal charging document in the presence of the defendant to inform the defendant of the charges against them. In response to arraignment, the accused is expected to enter a plea.


http://www.aol.com/article/2015/06/...ing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec3_lnk4&pLid=-473309966
Shelby Police Chief Jeff H. Ledford said 21-year-old Dylann Roof would be charged either when the plane transporting him landed in South Carolina or when it entered South Carolina airspace.
Roof has waived his right to counsel, meaning he will either represent himself or hire his own lawyer.
An assistant clerk in North Carolina says the extradition hearing for suspect in the fatal shooting of nine people at a historic black church lasted just 10 minutes....

Roof has had an Extradition Hearing in Shelby and a Bond Hearing in Charleston. But still nothing about his Arraignment Hearing, where he is formally charged with his crimes. It is inconceivable to me that they would allow Roof NOT to have a lawyer, to avoid any future controversy about lack of legal counsel.

IANAL, but the whole process thus far is fishy. The bail hearing he had in front of an unusual country magistrate (not a lawyer) was reported in the news media as being an "arraignment"

http://www.wxyz.com/news/the-latest-on-church-shooting-mayor-discusses-death-penalty

However, an attorney being interviewed on CNN that evening (of the arraignment/bail hearing) said county magistrates don't have the authority to charge anyone with murder. The state web site confirms that:

https://www.sccourts.org/magistrateCourt/

Magistrate Court
There are approximately 300 magistrates in South Carolina, each serving the county for which he or she is appointed. They are appointed to four-year terms by the Governor upon the advice and consent of the Senate. Magistrates must also pass a certification examination within one year of their appointment. Magistrates generally have criminal trial jurisdiction over all offenses subject to the penalty of a fine, as set by statute, but generally, not exceeding $500.00 or imprisonment not exceeding 30 days, or both. In addition, they are responsible for setting bail, conducting preliminary hearings, and issuing arrest and search warrants. Magistrates have civil jurisdiction when the amount in controversy does not exceed $7,500.

The news media reports his next hearing won't be until the end of October 2015 and February 2016.

Very strange, indeed.

This CBS news story contains conflicting information as well

s.com/news/charleston-shooting-suspect-dylann-roof-charged-with-nine-counts-of-murder/

The headline says he was charged with nine counts of murder (which a magistrate cannot do) but that he was only given bail for the weapons charge. Later, they mention that he will be charged with murder by a circuit judge at a later date.

Roof, who faces nine counts of murder, was ordered held on $1 million bond for the weapons charge. However, Chief Magistrate James Gosnell doesn't have the authority to set bond on the nine murder counts that Roof faces. That will be left up to a circuit judge at a later date.

His first hearing date, according to this article, is October 23, 2015 and the next February 5, 2015.

http://www.ibtimes.com/dylann-roof-hears-victims-families-court-hearing-bond-set-1m-1975626

The shaggy-haired Roof looked sullen in handcuffs and a prison uniform, but was cooperative as Gosnell instructed him on future court dates and the manner in which the legal process would proceed. His first court date was scheduled for Oct. 23, 2015, with a second hearing scheduled for Feb. 5, 2016. Gosnell said Roof had the right to a preliminary hearing in which prosecutor Scarlett Wilson would lay out the evidence against him.


ETA: BBM. So, no one has formally charged him with murder that I can tell. As many have already noted here, Roof's grandfather is an influential, well known and "respected" attorney in the area.

As for this Solicitor, Scarlett Wilson, here is her campaign web site from the last election:

http://wilsonforsolicitor.com/

Having had relatives who lived in the state for many years (now living elsewhere), the system of jurisprudence there is corrupt and haphazard. They seem to make up the rules as they go along and how your case is handled is often related to your race and any influential family you may have in the state. I've said it before, I'll say it again - This guy is going to get off with an insanity plea, technicality or mistrial or something.

That said, the black community down there is very focused on civil rights and will hopefully follow this situation closely once the funerals are over and people have had a chance to grieve. Hopefully, the national news media will keep an eye on this case, too.
 
And, just as the Department of Justice has no such news release, neither does Reuters.com. Not one of their 45 articles I was able to bring up indicates any such story. I am not going to read all 45 articles unless someone pays me, but headlines indicate nothing of the sort contained in any of the articles.

June 19, 2015, 04:05 PM ET by Emily Shapiro

The Justice Department said today it is expediting a $29 million grant to go toward victim assistance in Charleston

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dylann-roof-hears-victims-families-speak-1st-court/story?id=31896001
 
From The Daily Mail:

Revealed: Dylann Roof 'was active on white supremacist website for months posting same comments about minorities as in his hate-filled manifesto'

"A newly released analysis of Charleston church shooter Dylann Storm Roof's hate-filled manifesto has revealed that the 21-year-old murder suspect may have been active on an online white supremacist forum.

The group Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups around the country, compared the text of Roof's manifesto, which was discovered on his website The Last Rhodesian Saturday, to comments and posts made by user AryanBlood1488 on the site The Daily Stormer and found striking similarities.

The SPLC described The Daily Stormer in its report as a neo-Nazi online community run by its publisher, Andrew Anglin, that generates original content and also re-posts articles from other sites promoting the white supremacist agenda.

Keegan Hankes, of the Southern Poverty Law Center, writes that they ran Roof's lengthy statement detailing his attitudes towards various minority groups through a plagiarism detection software, Grammarly, which found that an 18-word passage from a portion of the manifesto dedicated to 'Blacks' was nearly a carbon copy of a post made by Daily Stormer user AyranBlood1488."​


Much more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ties-hate-filled-manifesto.html#ixzz3dvztsHig
 
A former FBI profiler reveals the 2 personality traits that helped turn Dylann Roof into a murderer ...

"He argues that Roof's overtly racist motives and heroic visions of grandeur put him squarely in two familiar camps of killers: the paranoid and the narcissistic."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/dyla...fbi-profiler-joe-navarro-2015-6#ixzz3dqr4hIRT

The link is from this article.

Identifying The Next Mass Murderer—Before It’s Too Late
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...ntifying-the-next-mass-murderer-it-s-too-late

Very interesting. Mass murderers are injustice collectors, which is no doubt that Dylann Roof is one. I have seen non-mass murderers who are injustice collectors.
 
I would think that the biggest issue around providing air-conditioning would be the monthly cost to run it.


And the whole historic building thing, I think.

I grew up in the swampy south and although we had central a/c, my mother only ran it when we were on the verge of simmering a slow death. Otherwise, we opened windows, used fans and listened to the skeeter trucks fog us with DDT.

AHHH, those were the days.
 
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