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Lots of random thoughts to follow, all MOO:
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I've seen various statements in the thread wondering why MM and PM would be outside so late in the dark.
It is SC. They were murdered close to summer/only a few weeks until the day with the longest number of daylight hours.
Islandton sunset time for June, 7, 2021, was 8:30 pm.
Civil twilight/dusk was at 8:59 pm.
Nightfall at 9:34 pm.
Full darkness at 10:11 pm.
Sunrise and Sunset times for Islandton, SC on Monday June 7 2021
Sure, there are probably places along the tree lines and wooded areas that were plenty dark enough. But from the aerial photos, there is a big cleared area that would have still probably had some lingering daylight (and that's not including any on-property lighting).
Plus, if people choose to live in a somewhat rural area, they're not going to be scared of the dark/dusk, especially when they're on their own property. Imo. I guess I just don't find it strange that they would have been outside at that time, especially when it was effectively summer. This is a family that seemed to enjoy the outdoors, ballgames, boating, etc. (from photos posted of them in various news reports). That time of evening in SC is often when it is finally cool enough/comfortable enough to be outside, whether checking on the dogs, going for a walk, watching lightning bugs, looking at the stars that were starting to emerge, or whatever (including investigating a noise/dogs barking, meeting someone, etc...). Plus you're mostly past mosquito time then. (I'm not a fan of mosquitoes.)
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Re: only AM taking the dad to the hospital. It sounds like his dad had been ill for awhile (cancer or something else?). While the Murdaugh family was surely rich enough to hire caretakers, when a lot of care is needed (dad plus the mom has Alzheimer's) over an extended period, families often take turns on who is doing the caring/checking on/hauling to appointments/etc. just to avoid burn-out and to accommodate the schedules of each person in the family. Maybe the other brothers had work meetings. Or one of their kids had a ballgame or practice. While the patriarch was elderly and ill, I'm not sure family knew he might be passing just days later when he was taken to the hospital that particular time. They probably also figured that they could go see their dad the next day or even the day after (because they wouldn't have known their lives would be turned upside-down by MM's and PM's murders later that night). Maybe AM did it because he was the favored son. Who knows? I think there could be many plausible and perfectly innocent scenarios. (It could have also been done for nefarious reasons -- to establish an alibi -- by AM but seem like a perfectly normal scenario to the rest of his family that day.) Either way, it doesn't seem suspicious to me that just one son took the dad to the hospital, especially during a pandemic.
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Thanks to those who posted a link to the recent podcast on how far-reaching all of these things may be; I plan to listen to it tomorrow. I said in the previous thread that I felt like the reopening of the SS case was a big "oh, no" moment for all the folks in all the various LE, legal, and other channels who have been complicit (in small or large ways) through the years and that I was afraid the radio silence from LE might be because there may be internal clean-ups going on to mitigate things that may be dragged out into the open. Again, totally MOO. As such, I worry that the actual murder investigation is taking second place. That's why I wish a bigger/outside group (like the FBI or some other group) was in charge because I think the Murdaugh family tentacles reach far and wide and have for a very long time. There's too much at stake that may be internally compromised, imo. It seems like the podcast some of you have quoted is seemingly alleging similar things. I think there may be so much, I'm not sure we will ever know most of it.
Somewhat related to that, I find it jaw-dropping that the Solicitor's Office kept no records of the hours that AM worked or what he worked on. That seems like a serious breach of some type of ethics related to cases, if nothing else. Surely they would need to keep track in case there was ever a question of an improper investigation or trial? Just... wow. Imo.
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While BM was named in the civil suit (I believe) in relation to letting PM use his ID to buy alcohol, has it been clearly established that he did? PM could have taken it without BM knowing, perhaps? And I do see a physical similarity between PM and BM (hair and eyes especially but I'm certainly no expert) so I would think he could pass it off easily enough. (People looking at it should be paying better attention, but that usually doesn't seem to happen until a tragedy like the boat crash/death.)
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Re: possible footage from the church re: AM's roadside shooting/incident -- I have to hope the security camera was actually on and able to capture something. I do think it's just as likely the security camera wasn't on and so captured nothing. Time will tell, I suppose.
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Again, all of this is my own musing and opinion only.
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I've seen various statements in the thread wondering why MM and PM would be outside so late in the dark.
It is SC. They were murdered close to summer/only a few weeks until the day with the longest number of daylight hours.
Islandton sunset time for June, 7, 2021, was 8:30 pm.
Civil twilight/dusk was at 8:59 pm.
Nightfall at 9:34 pm.
Full darkness at 10:11 pm.
Sunrise and Sunset times for Islandton, SC on Monday June 7 2021
Sure, there are probably places along the tree lines and wooded areas that were plenty dark enough. But from the aerial photos, there is a big cleared area that would have still probably had some lingering daylight (and that's not including any on-property lighting).
Plus, if people choose to live in a somewhat rural area, they're not going to be scared of the dark/dusk, especially when they're on their own property. Imo. I guess I just don't find it strange that they would have been outside at that time, especially when it was effectively summer. This is a family that seemed to enjoy the outdoors, ballgames, boating, etc. (from photos posted of them in various news reports). That time of evening in SC is often when it is finally cool enough/comfortable enough to be outside, whether checking on the dogs, going for a walk, watching lightning bugs, looking at the stars that were starting to emerge, or whatever (including investigating a noise/dogs barking, meeting someone, etc...). Plus you're mostly past mosquito time then. (I'm not a fan of mosquitoes.)
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Re: only AM taking the dad to the hospital. It sounds like his dad had been ill for awhile (cancer or something else?). While the Murdaugh family was surely rich enough to hire caretakers, when a lot of care is needed (dad plus the mom has Alzheimer's) over an extended period, families often take turns on who is doing the caring/checking on/hauling to appointments/etc. just to avoid burn-out and to accommodate the schedules of each person in the family. Maybe the other brothers had work meetings. Or one of their kids had a ballgame or practice. While the patriarch was elderly and ill, I'm not sure family knew he might be passing just days later when he was taken to the hospital that particular time. They probably also figured that they could go see their dad the next day or even the day after (because they wouldn't have known their lives would be turned upside-down by MM's and PM's murders later that night). Maybe AM did it because he was the favored son. Who knows? I think there could be many plausible and perfectly innocent scenarios. (It could have also been done for nefarious reasons -- to establish an alibi -- by AM but seem like a perfectly normal scenario to the rest of his family that day.) Either way, it doesn't seem suspicious to me that just one son took the dad to the hospital, especially during a pandemic.
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Thanks to those who posted a link to the recent podcast on how far-reaching all of these things may be; I plan to listen to it tomorrow. I said in the previous thread that I felt like the reopening of the SS case was a big "oh, no" moment for all the folks in all the various LE, legal, and other channels who have been complicit (in small or large ways) through the years and that I was afraid the radio silence from LE might be because there may be internal clean-ups going on to mitigate things that may be dragged out into the open. Again, totally MOO. As such, I worry that the actual murder investigation is taking second place. That's why I wish a bigger/outside group (like the FBI or some other group) was in charge because I think the Murdaugh family tentacles reach far and wide and have for a very long time. There's too much at stake that may be internally compromised, imo. It seems like the podcast some of you have quoted is seemingly alleging similar things. I think there may be so much, I'm not sure we will ever know most of it.
Somewhat related to that, I find it jaw-dropping that the Solicitor's Office kept no records of the hours that AM worked or what he worked on. That seems like a serious breach of some type of ethics related to cases, if nothing else. Surely they would need to keep track in case there was ever a question of an improper investigation or trial? Just... wow. Imo.
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While BM was named in the civil suit (I believe) in relation to letting PM use his ID to buy alcohol, has it been clearly established that he did? PM could have taken it without BM knowing, perhaps? And I do see a physical similarity between PM and BM (hair and eyes especially but I'm certainly no expert) so I would think he could pass it off easily enough. (People looking at it should be paying better attention, but that usually doesn't seem to happen until a tragedy like the boat crash/death.)
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Re: possible footage from the church re: AM's roadside shooting/incident -- I have to hope the security camera was actually on and able to capture something. I do think it's just as likely the security camera wasn't on and so captured nothing. Time will tell, I suppose.
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Again, all of this is my own musing and opinion only.
