VERDICT WATCH SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #36

[SuziQ]

It’s not about how long the trial took, it’s about how impactful you can be to an audience without losing their attention. Many people on this forum stated that CW at the end, summarized it really good, however if you have bored the audience for 3 hours prior to that, it’s not as impactful because some of the people on the jury have drown him out already.

I don’t think anyone wants to be critical of CW, I sincerely believe that most people want to see AM in prison for these murders and CW is one of the people that can put him there based on how he prosecuted the case. People that express criticism for something the prosecution does isn’t an attack on you personally or the people who are team Maggie/Paul, it’s just criticism in general because we WANT CW to do a good job! WE DO! Because we are on your side too!!! The reason I make honest comments about the things I see is because what I really care about is what that jury thinks, because at the end of the day, that’s who is going to put AM in prison, not you, not me, nobody here on websleuths.

IMO

How did you get all that from my one sentence post? My opinion differs that is all. The OP wasn't directed at me. Why would I feel attacked? Not sure where you got all that from. Imo.

 

[bestill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1631075477065543680

This makes me nervous. Surely we haven't come this far for a mistrial!! It's so typical - AM gets in tight spot (imminent verdict) and drama occurs. As discussed his demeanor today was different. I, for one, am concerned about what is going on behind the scenes that we don't know about!

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

It’s not about how long the trial took, it’s about how impactful you can be to an audience without losing their attention. Many people on this forum stated that CW at the end, summarized it really good, however if you have bored the audience for 3 hours prior to that, it’s not as impactful because some of the people on the jury have drown him out already.

I don’t think anyone wants to be critical of CW, I sincerely believe that most people want to see AM in prison for these murders and CW is one of the people that can put him there based on how he prosecuted the case. People that express criticism for something the prosecution does isn’t an attack on you personally or the people who are team Maggie/Paul, it’s just criticism in general because we WANT CW to do a good job! WE DO! Because we are on your side too!!! The reason I make honest comments about the things I see is because what I really care about is what that jury thinks, because at the end of the day, that’s who is going to put AM in prison, not you, not me, nobody here on websleuths.

IMO

I thought he started out a little scattered with the finances, but then got into his rhythm and thought his delivery was on point, emphatic at correct times, not overly dramatic. I did not find it boring and hope the jury did not. moo

 

[Dexxie8]

How did you get all that from my one sentence post? My opinion differs that is all. The OP wasn't directed at me. Why would I feel attacked? Not sure where you got all that from. Imo.

I understand. Sorry if my post came across as harsh or critical. Not my intent at all. I promise. Sometimes my words get jumbled up and don’t come across as how I intended them to be. Sincerely, very sorry, did not mean to upset anyone intentionally. Hugs

 

[worm]

@worm how are you feeling about this case coming to a close? I remember you are the one that opened the first thread so long ago. I can’t believe it’s almost over. I’ve been watching since day 1. What a crazy roller coaster it’s been.

I’m hoping that the victims get their due tho I wish we had a more clear picture but AM has given himself away. I should have listed his selective memory and hedge speak in my red flags earlier.

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

No, he is missing the facts. JMO. But, I am good with the closing. It could have been stronger.

What facts would you like to see?

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

he was there because he lives there..I mean what if they were in the house? and Paul was in another room..the basement..working on his guns and 2 people come in and shoot the people In the living room? ok he was there..he left back up to the house.. like normal stuff they do every day...

It would be possible in this case if these two outsiders happened to be invisible beings that teleported in and out of there. I guess that's theoretically possible. But it's not anywhere near reasonable doubt.

 

[worm]

It's not a pretty site at all and being involved in engagements during my time in the service and seeing the damage done by weapons it leaves an imprint in your mind and one must carry it with care and put it to rest for it can eat at your soul, bout all I want to say about that.

I only seen one shotgun murder during my media years so I have an understanding of what this was. If it were my close family or friends I couldn’t say how I would respond.

 

[Walela]

And why wasn’t he scared when he came home and found them?

Well the poor thing was scared. That's why he went back to the dark house where killers and/or thieves could be waiting; went inside to get a gun so he could go back down to the kennels in the dark and wait in the open.

 

[Edvis]

It would be possible in this case if these two outsiders happened to be invisible beings that teleported in and out of there. I guess that's theoretically possible. But it's not anywhere near reasonable doubt.

Keep playing with that wormhole out there it will get you, think that's what happen to the spirit guide that bailed on us in the heat of the critter attack...just pulled her in.

 

[Edvis]

I only seen one shotgun murder during my media years so I have an understanding of what this was. If it were my close family or friends I couldn’t say how I would respond.

For sure family would bring one to total dispair.

 

[worm]

I’m as pro pot/anti drug war as it gets but I don’t understand his tale of paranoia causing him to lie so quick. It would seem that with close relatives being murdered he wouldn't have worried over some dope. As Waters said several times, it just doesn’t make sense.

 

[BUF]

At this stage of trial, perhaps more on actual jury instructions. The prosecution highlighted the instructions it likes, the defense will do the same. But it is the judge who will rule on which further instructions might be given. Both sides get to weigh in, but the judge gets to decide. There are, for example, different ways to word an instruction regarding what constitutes "intent."

It's my understanding that in a first degree murder case, an instruction about what constitutes legal definition of intent *must* be given, but often the two sides quibble on which version to use. For example, in some instructions about intent, the defense may propose that a person who is disabled by drugs or alcohol is not capable of forming intent. If the drug use was voluntary, as in this case, there is no legal requirement to put that clause in the instruction - but the defense will surely request it and it's up to the judge.

Tomorrow should be interesting, as I think we'll get to jury instructions.

IMO.

I have a feeling this could be about the staging at Moselle for the jury view.

 

[fred&edna]

This makes me nervous. Surely we haven't come this far for a mistrial!! It's so typical - AM gets in tight spot (imminent verdict) and drama occurs. As discussed his demeanor today was different. I, for one, am concerned about what is going on behind the scenes that we don't know about!

I hope the extended courthouse discussions are wearing out the defense for tomorrow... preventing a perky closing. Apparently, DH won't be delivering the arguments but I am concerned for his eye bags.

 

[BUF]

Oh, it was definitely staged. Why, is a total mystery. Maybe to remind the jurors that a happy family, in which the husband would definitely not have killed two members, lived there?

Remember how they staged OJ’s house?

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

I’m as pro pot/anti drug war as it gets but I don’t understand his tale of paranoia causing him to lie so quick. It would seem that with close relatives being murdered he wouldn't have worried over some dope. As Waters said several times, it just doesn’t make sense.

And there is no paranoia about the firm finding out he stole from them, and no paranoia about the boat case. He has a very selective paranoia, like his memory.

 

[bestill]

I have a feeling this could be about the staging at Moselle for the jury view.

I am worried about this!!

 

[bestill]

I hope the extended courthouse discussions are wearing out the defense for tomorrow... preventing a perky closing. Apparently, DH won't be delivering the arguments but I am concerned for his eye bags.

Well we know he was late for his happy hour!

 

[mark majors]

https://twitter.com/AveryGWilks

A note from
@CourtTV
on questions they have received about jury deliberations, and answers: https://twitter.com/AveryGWilks


Q: How long will the jury deliberate? A: It’s up to the jury. Q: Will the jury be sequestered. A: There is no decision at this time.


More from
@CourtTV
Q: Will we hear the jury's questions and requests during deliberations? A: Yes, on the record. Q: Will the jury have technology to view exhibits? A: Yes. Q: Will the attorneys be present? A: They will be somewhere close, but not required to be in court.


More from
@CourtTV
: Q: How much notice will we get that a verdict has been reached? A: The longer the deliberations, the more notice will probably be given because the attorneys and staff will be dispersed.


Last note from
@CourtTV
, and this is the big one. Q: Will the jury deliberate on weekends. A: Yes, they will deliberate through the weekend if necessary.

very helpful- thanks!

 

[fred&edna]

DBM-that didn't sound the way I meant it