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I didn't realize the creek was that big near the campsite. After seeing this I'm even more convinced he went in the water.
I'm convinced he didn't.
I didn't realize the creek was that big near the campsite. After seeing this I'm even more convinced he went in the water.
Those photos were taken at a time of year when the creek is at its fastest/highest point. When they were searching last year and even when Deorr went missing the creek's volume would have been noticeably less.
Is Klein's team there now?
I'm not so sure about that. My experience is the creeks don't slow down until later in the summer. It's may be a little less but these pictures were take a month (and few days) prior to the 1 year anniversary of DeOrr's disappearance. In this part of Idaho water tends to run high through July.
Have you had a chance to visit the site since you live in Idaho?
Those photos were taken at a time of year when the creek is at its fastest/highest point. When they were searching last year and even when Deorr went missing the creek's volume would have been noticeably less.
I agree. Some of the early threads if I recall had discussions from the searchers or LE that indicated the water was so low in the creek that you could easily search the creek to see if he was in there. I havent weant back to review the early threads but I remember the discussions and the searchers had no problem determining he was not in the water. They searched down the creek quite a ways.
They of course could have missed him but LE became confident he was not in the creeks water after they had finished their searching.
I think we even had photos at the time but not sure if those were from search photos or not.
This creek is a little different than other creeks in that I believe it is a spillway creek that is fed by the upstream lake. The lake has a earth dam on it and since the campground is not too far downstream then there is not a lot of chance for the creek to swell unless there was lots of rain or if the lake above had water rushing over the dam. I don't think any of that was the case at the time he went missing.
I went back to the first thread. In post #27 there is a comment saying a man just came from that area and there are fast moving creeks that wined through to campground. This is not verbatim but I'm not sure if it is against the TOS to cut and paste a comment from a closed thread.
Also in the first few pages of thread #1 it indicates LE states they were confident DeOrr was not in the creek after only two days of searching it. To be honest I didn't go much further and really have no desire to read through all those posts in all those threads.
I went back to the first thread. In post #27 there is a comment saying a man just came from that area and there are fast moving creeks that wined through to campground. This is not verbatim but I'm not sure if it is against the TOS to cut and paste a comment from a closed thread.
Also in the first few pages of thread #1 it indicates LE states they were confident DeOrr was not in the creek after only two days of searching it. To be honest I didn't go much further and really have no desire to read through all those posts in all those threads.
Do you think two days was not long enough?
[video=youtube;qvZbH7NSadA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvZbH7NSadA[/video]
Watch this video. Shallow and not very fast moving IMO. Plus they said as they searched they were just starting to remove debris from the creek. If you look when Nate Easton is talking about the hill down to the creek, there's a large tree that goes across the creek. I imagine there were many "blockages" of that nature throughout the creek, which is probably one of the reasons why they were able to rule out that he went into the creek. It wasn't just that there was no sign of him in the creek, it was that his body would not have been able to make it past some of these blockages IMO.
Not really
And in the most recent video posted on this thread it clearly shows he creek moving more swiftly in places.
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