Sentencing and beyond- JA General Discussion #5

[Hope4More]

Hmm, from looking at this map(click on the map bit to scroll in and then use the street view to see the little park that's kitty corner across the street, can't see parking, just a basketball court), I can't see anything close by where she could have parked a big U-haul truck, unless she was talking about that big open area with a waterhole on the other side of S Meridian Rd. http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/11428-E-Queensborough-Ave-Mesa-AZ-85212/55275691_zpid/

Thanks... I searched for a nearby community pool, but the closest I could find was 1.2 miles away. A short drive but a very long walk, given the circumstances.

Her car had to be fairly close by. One more clue about that..the condition of the car upon return. Not just all 4 floor mats missing, but blood stains on the front passenger seat and a larger stain on the rear seat.

She left with knife (s) and gun and her bloody clothes, at the very least. She cleaned herself off well enough not to leave blood on the driver's seat, so the blood must have come from her weapons/clothes, and the fact blood was left behind suggests whatever had blood on it wasn't securely wrapped up.

How far would she have been willing/able to walk in broad daylight with bloodied bundles, especially on that street of immaculately kept houses?

 

[RickshawFan]

I wonder if RB helped her with her luggage... did anyone ever ask him if she had any? I would think she might have had a change or two of clothes with her, she was supposed to be going to some PPL function/dinner, correct?

I agree with that part. But who uses a suitcase when couch surfing? Or calling it "luggage"? That's "going on a plane" language.

This whole BS of hers about having someonen schlepp her suitcase is absurd. She couldn't carry a suitcase, but she can drag a dead body down a hall?

 

[Val1]

Thanks... I searched for a nearby community pool, but the closest I could find was 1.2 miles away. A short drive but a very long walk, given the circumstances.

Her car had to be fairly close by. One more clue about that..the condition of the car upon return. Not just all 4 floor mats missing, but blood stains on the front passenger seat and a larger stain on the rear seat.

She left with knife (s) and gun and her bloody clothes, at the very least. She cleaned herself off well enough not to leave blood on the driver's seat, so the blood must have come from her weapons/clothes, and the fact blood was left behind suggests whatever had blood on it wasn't securely wrapped up.

How far would she have been willing/able to walk in broad daylight with bloodied bundles, especially on that street of immaculately kept houses?

I was thinking that other than her pants, the rest of what she was wearing could have been TA's, she may have worn her own pants simply because his would have been way too big ... ie. all those black socks and the brown blood/bleach stained t-shirt in the wash. She may have rolled everything up in her pants and shoved it in her backpack/purse and when she dumped them out to hide/dispose of them got it all over the car at that point, especially since she would have been doing most of that in the dark on her drive to Utah.

 

[Val1]

Btw, this pic shows quite well how she could have been furtively taking the pics from the closet until TA noticed her, for the record I still don't think he even knew she was there that day until the pic where you see him turn to his left with that look of surprise in the shower.

 

[Val1]

TA's down stair's living area was tiled. The carpet in the one pic looks wall to wall, not an area rug. Thinking the pics weren't taken at TA's.

But, again...for what purpose, these pics of clothes half off with jump my bones expressions?

Maybe it wasn't the LDS Linkup site she was referring to when we said she opened an online account and the response for dates had been "getting out of hand."

His living room carpet looks too "shaggy" to be the same and the couch also looks to me like it's fabric not leather, though I've been proven wrong before.:/

 

[Val1]

His living room carpet looks too "shaggy" to be the same and the couch also looks to me like it's fabric not leather, though I've been proven wrong before.:/

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Ugh, too slow to edit.. compare TA's carpet to the one that was in the house that JA and DB had in Palm Desert, she was looking much younger in those pics and the shirts could have been some of DB's I suppose.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/43744-Virginia-Ave-Palm-Desert-CA-92211/18096527_zpid/
(http://riverside.blockshopper.com/property/637381021/43755_virginia#)

 

[geevee]

Ugh, too slow to edit.. compare TA's carpet to the one that was in the house that JA and DB had in Palm Desert, she was looking much younger in those pics and the shirts could have been some of DB's I suppose.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/43744-Virginia-Ave-Palm-Desert-CA-92211/18096527_zpid/
(http://riverside.blockshopper.com/property/637381021/43755_virginia#)

I agree, the carpet looks much more like the Virginia street house than T's area rug, and it doesn't look like there's enough room to stretch out between his sofas like she is in those poses.

 

[knt]

Ugh, too slow to edit.. compare TA's carpet to the one that was in the house that JA and DB had in Palm Desert, she was looking much younger in those pics and the shirts could have been some of DB's I suppose.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/43744-Virginia-Ave-Palm-Desert-CA-92211/18096527_zpid/
(http://riverside.blockshopper.com/property/637381021/43755_virginia#)

Thanks for the photos. You're amazing. I swear she said The Pam Desert house had a pool... There is no pool!

 

[knt]

Ugh, too slow to edit.. compare TA's carpet to the one that was in the house that JA and DB had in Palm Desert, she was looking much younger in those pics and the shirts could have been some of DB's I suppose.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/43744-Virginia-Ave-Palm-Desert-CA-92211/18096527_zpid/
(http://riverside.blockshopper.com/property/637381021/43755_virginia#)

Your link to the Palm Desert house has the same brass trim on the mirror as the pic of JA looking at herself in the mirror.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=90784

 

[Hope4More]

I'm not sure if this info about cameras and timestamps applies to the type of camera Travis had, or if it's relevant, but here:

1. (Supposedly), the Sony camera TA owned allowed one to choose whether or not to enable the "time stamp" option. Choosing to enable the option had to be done manually (a menu choice), and could be changed beforehand ( on or off) for each and any pic.

Turning the time stamp option off didn't stop the camera from recording a timestamp in EXIF data. What turning it off did was to prevent a time stamp from being imposed/written on the image after the fact (like EnCase or other software is designed to do).

So...ever so possibly, the reason why 2 of the 6 photos don't have timestamps is because for whatever reason the turned off the option for just those photos? On purpose or because she has no idea how to use a real camera?

2. It's theoretically possible, apparently, for EXIF data to not only be altered but WIPED from pics that have been altered by software programs such as PhotoShop. Just saying.

 

[Hope4More]

Thanks for the photos. You're amazing. I swear she said The Pam Desert house had a pool... There is no pool!

FWIW, I think there was...I'm sure I've seen a pic of it before. I haven't looked through all the pics just posted, but if no pool, maybe it's been removed?

 

[Hope4More]

About Benadryl (antihistamines) and TA's autopsy report.

The report doesn't exclude the possibility she gave him Benadryl. What the report says is that: no "drugs of abuse" were present, nor medications of "significance."

There's nothing there that says he was tested specifically for antihistamines, and I'm doubtful that antihistamines qualify as medications of significance.

IMO, it remains a (completely speculative) possibility she bought Benadryl at the CVS to slip to TA, and (further speculation) who knows, bought it at CVS rather than at WalMart a few hours later to separate her for-murder purchases.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

The home she and Daryl shared didn't have a pool IIRC, the backyard butted up to a golf course and wasn't a big yard or fenced. Here is a pic of the back. It appears there is just a small covered patio. Oh, and I agree that the pics of her on floor are taken from this house.. maybe after Daryl had moved out and she was bringing guys to her home for "bible studies" Yeah, right!






Link to more pics:

https://hotpads.com/43744-virginia-ave-palm-desert-ca-92211-svfmwx/pad

 

[Hope4More]

Last thought at the moment, about where Napoleon was when she killed him. Where could he possibly have been enclosed that Travis wouldn't have heard him barking to get out? Unless Travis was already in the shower and she snuck in, or back in, to ambush him there?

 

[CorgisRlife]

Last thought at the moment, about where Napoleon was when she killed him. Where could he possibly have been enclosed that Travis wouldn't have heard him barking to get out? Unless Travis was already in the shower and she snuck in, or back in, to ambush him there?

Here's a thought & PURE SPECULATION in regards to buying Benadryl & the whereabouts of Napoleon during the murder (and most likely has been discussed throughout the years on this forum)....she could've roofied Napoleon with Benedryl which would have conveniently kept him quiet through out her "drive-by" through Mesa.

 

[RickshawFan]

Thanks... I searched for a nearby community pool, but the closest I could find was 1.2 miles away. A short drive but a very long walk, given the circumstances.

Her car had to be fairly close by. One more clue about that..the condition of the car upon return. Not just all 4 floor mats missing, but blood stains on the front passenger seat and a larger stain on the rear seat.

She left with knife (s) and gun and her bloody clothes, at the very least. She cleaned herself off well enough not to leave blood on the driver's seat, so the blood must have come from her weapons/clothes, and the fact blood was left behind suggests whatever had blood on it wasn't securely wrapped up.

How far would she have been willing/able to walk in broad daylight with bloodied bundles, especially on that street of immaculately kept houses?

There were blood stains in all those places in the car? She must have had a whole lot more bloody stuff than just her own clothes, the knives and the gun.

If she didn't leave blood on the driver's seat, the bloody stuff must have been at least somewhat bundled, no? Or else she would have had blood on her, and it would have been deposited on the seat and other places?

She had to have used garbage bags from TA's house and thought they would keep the blood from seeping. Instead, the carpet/upholstery fibers wicked it out.

 

[RickshawFan]

His living room carpet looks too "shaggy" to be the same and the couch also looks to me like it's fabric not leather, though I've been proven wrong before.:/

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Yes, to me the couch looks like it's faux leather of the cheaper variety.

 

[RickshawFan]

Your link to the Palm Desert house has the same brass trim on the mirror as the pic of JA looking at herself in the mirror.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=90784

Puke: not only is she so narcissistic that she's got herself a clone, but, to be crude, she has someone doing her in the photo?

 

[TrialWatcher]

Thanks for the photos. You're amazing. I swear she said The Pam Desert house had a pool... There is no pool!

You are correct. She did say there was a pool. It was detailed in her journal, in books and other sources.

Public Records for 43755 Virginia Ave

Official property, sales, and tax information from county (public) records as of 07/2015:
Single Family Residential
1 Partial Bathroom
Built In 1973
Heating: Central
Roof: Gravel/Rock
Pool: Pool (yes)

http://www.trulia.com/homes/Califor...95540-43755-Virginia-Ave-Palm-Desert-CA-92211

This may be the pool. It could have changed, of course:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/43755-Virginia-Ave-Palm-Desert-CA-92211/18096507_zpid/

 

[TrialWatcher]

[video=youtube;VL8K1BXJEbc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL8K1BXJEbc&index=8&list=PLrAJFqIjBGeBWQ8jumn4nJ92njqRQwm0k[/video]

27 minutes in -

"I had a house with a free bedroom and a bed and a pool..."