Sentencing and beyond- Jodi Arias General Discussion #3

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ALV lied on her CV but lying under oath was a different matter. I remember Juan saying 'Judge, can we go ahead with what we talked about on break'. That was right before the chit hit the fan, after another excruciatingly long sidebar of course!

I think Juan filed perjury charges against her. I wonder if her charge for all her work was erased by Juan because she lied under oath? Does anyone know how that works?
 
I used to think everyone had the same meaning for "girlfriend", but I've seen quite a bit of variation. I've seen it mean "I have sex with this person" and not any kind of exclusive thing.
Heck, I've heard guys calling their prostitute "girlfriend."

Not just the meaning of the phrase/word itself but also who it's said in front of, just like saying "i love you" depends on where, who, when and why... :)
 
Couldn't have been April 07, Arias even asked Sky during the argument, "Are you going to tell Travis not to date me?" Who would refer to their boyfriend in dating terms like that..? Sky: "Yes!" She breaks down and cries that she can't lose him. It doesn't seem like they had a steady relationship status here. Maybe in May, he got a bit cut off from the Hughes (strained relationship at that point), or there was some trip in June, Travis' friends were making comments to the Hughes about how they didn't feel like 'Jodi was right* for Travis. So that makes their possible relationship status... at best, three months.

And are we sure that Travis didn't have a slip of the tongue again? His speech slurs and he sounds awfully tired at night. He may have blurted out something improperly and she got a kick out of being referred to as *his g/f*. He may have told *her*, they were exclusive, but he rambles at night, I swear. Most of the time, the texts indicate he was very clear with her they weren't going to be serious. She went on like it wasn't an issue for her. What she did, conflicted with that sentiment, is all.


I wanted to reply to this again because I thought about something to do with this "girlfriend" thing.

Travis and Jodi went to OKC in 2007, and that's the Abe incident Jodi and Travis talked about on the tape. If it is, then according to jodi per the sextape, she wasnt his girlfriend as of March 2007.

This is what I mean about how bad she lies! So you are right. Who the heck knows when or if it was actually "made" official, but he did say it. Travis did have honest intentions toward Jodi during some period of this relationship. If you notice, it was either Chaitanya or Marie that he gave the book of Mormon to and started asking her to read it toward the end of May, after they'd fooled around finally. I think THAT is Travis' MO. If he starts to like you and you're not Mormon, he'll try to get you interested in his religion. I suppose he wouldn't seriously date you if you don't join or aren't in it already. I'm not saying he was forcing it, just getting it out of the way before things went too far with a woman who was not LDS.
 
I used to think everyone had the same meaning for "girlfriend", but I've seen quite a bit of variation. I've seen it mean "I have sex with this person" and not any kind of exclusive thing.
Heck, I've heard guys calling their prostitute "girlfriend."

Most certainly have a point. It can mean different things--especially between same-sex women.:blushing:

Jodi jack-hammered her meaning into Travis' head, I'm sure.
 
ALV lied on her CV but lying under oath was a different matter. I remember Juan saying 'Judge, can we go ahead with what we talked about on break'. That was right before the chit hit the fan, after another excruciatingly long sidebar of course!

I think Juan filed perjury charges against her. I wonder if her charge for all her work was erased by Juan because she lied under oath? Does anyone know how that works?

I don't know, she could of got fined. She already made a fool of herself.

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I just realized they broke up three times... apologies for confusion, I wrote in one post ahead that I missed that detail from the trial. Only going by Sky's book here, more fleshed out details and some less. Then again I never paid that much attention to Lisa for some reason... In the courtroom, Deanna seemed like the one she hated.

I admittedly recall reading more about this trial than watching it. But I saw a LOT, refer back on limited basis now. I already had the darkest gripping sensation whilst sleeping Thanksgiving night that JA was in my room. I am more interested in Travis' life than being intimidated by all these details about Arias, so I shrugged it off and chalked it up to her behaving like a demon child YET still, a child. So bite me, JA.

Anyway, I tried to go by memory regarding that breakup, (and it wasn't even a roommate), what is actually written here is that at some point after their 2nd breakup, JA also* told a friend of Lisa's sister about the 'messing around.' And I've thought this before, but that's a serious danger to Lisa. Sky thought so as well, that Arias was going to do something horrible to her. And I've had this since it was published, so I'm surprised too, that it was not brought up here... hrm. So many details with this trial. It just never ends. Also, is this more prejudice to the jury? I don't get it.

Yeah, the whole thing is confusing. Below, I'm going to outline it as I understand it. Feel free to add.

According to Sky/Chris, Travis was dating JA and LA at the same time, and Sky wanted him to come clean. She claims she told him that if he brought LA around, she'd tell LA. So he didn't bring LA around Sky. Then, Sky says JA made sure to get the message about her and Travis out through the roommate, who was dating Lisa's sister. So he told Lisa's sister who then told Lisa. THEN Sky said Jodi sent Lisa a message on Travis' phone as if Travis had said "cuddling with Jodi" on a trip that happened prior to the 9/23 email.

I believe that broke Lisa and Trav up for a while. I think this is what Lisa refers to in her testimony when she says she found out that "it wasn't true," or however she phrased it. I think she meant she found out from Travis that he didn't send her that text; jodi did. And also, he hadn't been cuddling with Jodi; it was a lie.

and then by the first week of December, they must have been back together or in the process because that's when the pair started texting about his tire slashing issue. Jodi barely remarks on it in her journal. She can spend pages talking about other stuff, but maybe one sentence on the slashing.

I believe Lisa got the shameful *advertiser censored* email supposedly in December 2007. I believe it was during that month that she also had the incidence of her door chiming.

I think it was January or maybe february that Jodi walked in the house while Lisa was in the kitchen and then ran out.

Lisa's tires were slashed February 11, I think. A sunday night before FHE.

Lisa said she and Travis "mutually" broke up in mid February. Per the texts, it was Feb 20 something. Sky had asked Travis if it was because of Mimi, whom Travis had begun texting and talking about as early as first part of Feb.

I didn't listen to Lisa's testimony as I should have, either, but Lisa is central to all the craziness, and I do agree with Sky that if Lisa hadn't bailed, Lisa might have gotten hurt or killed.

I agree about Deanna, but I think the hate just transferred to whomever Travis was with. Deanna was first because, in Jodi's mind, Deanna was preventing Travis from moving on emotionally. It got transferred like a disease to Lisa when Jodi learned about that relationship. I don't know about Mimi. But Jodi probably figured out really quick that Mimi wasn't interested.

I personally believe Jodi started keeping tabs on Travis and Chaitanya (and maybe Marie), and when those relationships changed in May, Jodi had a problem! I now theorize that it's the reason she tried to lure him back in with sex calls. This seems to be what Travis is so mad about on the 26th G-chat, among other things. I glean that from "you knew just one call would reel me in." (paraphrased.) But it seemed like they had calls in between, so I had to think it was a sex call he was referring to, not just a call. Either that, or she "butt-dialed" him so he could hear her with someone else?

The more I review docs, footage, etc, a theme becomes apparent. Jodi's bitterness about these other women. She even took the time to talk about them in the letter to the Alexanders when she was explaining her mythical ninja attack. It's in her late may journal entries. She can't hide her obsession with the women. Now that I'm writing, I think of how she was obsessed with even Sky.

Oh, and Marie was the last one Travis was hooking up with and actively texting as far as I see. Maybe this Brooke person comes into play soon, but Sky/chris said Jodi tried to get Marie to pick Jodi up from airport for the funeral! Chris kept telling people not to do it, and ultimately, Jodi didn't show. My heart skipped a beat to imagine Marie with Jodi if Jodi knew about Travis doing foreplay with her in May.

Jodi used jealousy as a weapon. She knew how it made her feel, so she tried to make Travis feel it, too, by dropping all the clues about other men. It enraged Travis. No one wants to imagine someone they slept with getting it on with someone else--even if they aren't actually doing it. The theme about her "other men" is also prevalent, as if she wants people to know, "I was fine. I was dating. It didn't hurt me--but it was his fault for telling me to do it."

Then, that mess with Danny Jones. According to the g-chat, after she and travis talked about him on the phone, she took herself up to myspace and started commenting and flirting on the guy's page!

I got a song for Jodi. It's by Gucci Crew. You got to listen to it. "Sally, that girl!" It's explicit, though.

"Jodi! That girl..."

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I was going through some old files I had from the trial, and found this. It must have peaked my interest at the time because I saved it. There is no way I can recall where I read it, but it makes sense... or at least to me it does. Maybe she WAS a phone sex operator.




"It seems Jodi Arias has much more experience than admitted — including the arena of phone-sex manipulation. She is cunning and understands how to deflect and keep awareness of her outside activities out of sight. However, certain bits and pieces of information can be put together that can help decipher what this woman was capable of in her seduction of Mr. Alexander. In the thirteenth day of Trial testimony, immediately after a person described as an expert witness (Bryan Aumeister) was dismissed, Jodi Arias took the stand and provided information about her family and her activity with a person she identified as an adult male that had become her boyfriend, starting when she was the age of fifteen. His name was Bobby Juarez.

In the late afternoon that day, her testimony was that her boyfriend, Bobby Juarez, liked to chat on what she said was a party line or chat line. In her testimony, Jodi Arias mentioned slightly that two of her boyfriends had become enmeshed in calling 900 numbers. 900 numbers are usually advertised in the pages of alternative magazines. They are usually manned by persons who talk to the caller about the caller’s sexual fantasies. Sometimes, the caller can arrange a meeting with the person on the other end. In the trade, this is frowned upon unless the company (that employs the sex-chatter) is also advertised as an escort agency.

Jodi Arias would have been more familiar with exactly what a 900 number is than she has let on. The reason is that her boyfriend, Bobby Juarez, was unemployed and so could not have had the money to pay for the services provided by the party line, chat line, sex line, or whatever other name a person would chose to call the business. Jodi Arias said she knew that Bobby Juarez would call what she described as a party line and meet people that way. She said that this was before the Internet was found in every single home. Thus, he was not using the Internet, but was using the phone service, which had to be paid. Jodi Arias had a phone and worked and stated she paid her phone bill. She must have known she was paying for someone to hear sex-talk. She was not that naïve that she does not know what a 900 number is — that advertises as a party line or a chat line. This particular matter is not the only one that Jodi Arias has confused.

There was one particular piece of the tape that was especially troubling, and it should be thoroughly examined in order to see if an outside party was taping the conversation (with the knowledge of Jodi Arias). At 14:16 of the audio recording of the advertised sex tape, she stated something like “Yeah, he’s right. I can hear him”, while a slight echo can be heard in the transmission. She is not talking to a sleepy Travis Alexander because he has started to ramble about the marathon “sessions” that he has had with her. He is not a party to the conversation she is having with whomever is listening to her make that statement. So, what was the set-up?

It is apparent that the sex tape was not for the benefit of Travis Alexander. Good money had to be paid for the recording to be enhanced to bring up the voice of Mr. Alexander. The recording on her cell phone had not recorded the voice of Mr. Alexander in a way that could be heard. Although Jodi Arias has stated she had made prior taped recordings for Mr. Alexander that she implied he had access to for his own benefit, one has to wonder what the actual benefit would have been. A lop-sided sex-talk would not be something a man would ask his former girlfriend to provide for him.

Bryan Aumeister had been hired as an expert to enhance the quality of the sound of the recording not simply enhance one male voice that was identified as belonging to a person by the name of Travis. If hired to overlook anything other than the voice of Mr. Alexander, he should provide the particulars and the contract for service that contains that condition. If not and this expert expects to be paid by the State, he should redo his examination to find out if there is another voice on that tape. Additionally, an explanation should be provided by this expert retained by the defense team at State expense."


BBM:

*** After re-reading this, it should be Bryan Neumeister, but that is what was written, so I'll leave it alone.***
 
Why I think the part that is too incriminating to put in writing on May 22 could be about BMW:
Mainly because JA goes out of her way to show, prove, and leave evidence that she is taking responsibility for the BMW, just in case there is any future investigation that may come after the planned murder.

For example,
-JA made sure to place her "BMW payment"check in Travis's house, for police to find.

-JA texted 'hey, are you going to deposit that check' after killing him. (This one served two purpose. 'I don't know you are dead/I wasn't there' and 'Please make sure to notice that I paid him.')

- On May 22, she writes in her journal - 'We still have his car to take care of, but he'll keep me posted on any new developments. He said if all else fails then we'll just scrap it. but I would never do him wrong. Anyway, that concludes things, I guess.
(This is nothing more than her effort to doctor her journal entry, sort of to set the record straight in typical JA's way , again just in case she gets investigated. By May 22, Travis was in no mood to agree to just scrap the car)


Possible BMW related texts :
March 31, 2008
8:51 AM - JA: Call me as soon as u wake up. I've already called Davis Miles.
1:26 PM - JA: Is it OK if I drop off your car now? Is he expecting it?
1:37 PM- JA Are they both Desert Schools? and phn #?
1:38 PM- Travis: It shows you one is wamu, one is desert schools

April 5, 2008
Chris Hughes: How much u spend? Trade in BMW?
Travis: It's a nine gallon tank you can go 450 miles on. I'm going to sell the car on the auto trader I don' get ripped.
Travis: 16995
(Sell on the Auto Trader? Not to JA?)

April 11, 2008
Travis: I know you are busy but there are things I need to know that concern me. Did you hear from the attorneys, have a job, mail my stuff back etc?

April 18, 2008
Travis asked JA for her address so he can send some things to her. She seemed really grateful. Then they get into an argument about JA not completing a picture project for Travis. Part of what Travis texted- '.....I have let you have a car money, and a whole hell of a lot of time lately and your cousin that doesn't do anything for you is the priority. You couldn't scrap a dozen of 500 pictures to help me .......'
(In his text, there is no comma between car and money. What is a car money?)

April 22, 2008
JA: I love my car!!!!!
Travis: Good =)
(What is this about? Does she love her junk Infiniti or BMW?)

April 28, 2008
JA: Don't forget to reinstate your membership and call your insurance and Davis Miles today!!!
Travis: I haven't got my card
JA: Then report it stolen immediately! This is week 2, yes I've been counting. Wamu never takes this long. Be vigilant.
(Why does Travis has to call Davis Miles? Davis Miles is an attorney she called on March 31)

April 30, 2008
JA: What did ur car magnet say (before it was stolen)?
Travis: Prepaid legal and my number
(I don't know what this about?? )


May 9, 2008
During 'Steve coverup' fight
Travis: '......You are a real piece of work, by the way thanks for keeping your end of the contract you made by paying me for the car you destroyed. You are more and more like your mom everyday. Going to Cooperstown while you owe me thousands. What integrity.'
(I wonder what kind of agreement was in that contract and when it was created, or is this statement just a figure of speech)

May 22, 2008
JA: 'You need to hear about what happened and why. Am I guilty? Yes. But it's more than just that. The stuff involving you is just a fraction of what has happened. I'm in a BIG mess. I have a lot of apologizing to do to a lot of people. I didn't even see this one coming and I can't believe how stupid I was! I really really screwed the pooch on this one. So badly I have to call Parker Stan tomorrow. What's the deal? Call me and We'll talk. This is serious, you need to know.'
(So could this be related to BMW?)
 
What if she stole Travis's bank card?

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Why I think the part that is too incriminating to put in writing on May 22 could be about BMW:
Mainly because JA goes out of her way to show, prove, and leave evidence that she is taking responsibility for the BMW, just in case there is any future investigation that may come after the planned murder.

For example,
-JA made sure to place her "BMW payment"check in Travis's house, for police to find.

-JA texted 'hey, are you going to deposit that check' after killing him. (This one served two purpose. 'I don't know you are dead/I wasn't there' and 'Please make sure to notice that I paid him.')

- On May 22, she writes in her journal - 'We still have his car to take care of, but he'll keep me posted on any new developments. He said if all else fails then we'll just scrap it. but I would never do him wrong. Anyway, that concludes things, I guess.
(This is nothing more than her effort to doctor her journal entry, sort of to set the record straight in typical JA's way , again just in case she gets investigated. By May 22, Travis was in no mood to agree to just scrap the car)


Possible BMW related texts :
March 31, 2008
8:51 AM - JA: Call me as soon as u wake up. I've already called Davis Miles.
1:26 PM - JA: Is it OK if I drop off your car now? Is he expecting it?
1:37 PM- JA Are they both Desert Schools? and phn #?
1:38 PM- Travis: It shows you one is wamu, one is desert schools

April 5, 2008
Chris Hughes: How much u spend? Trade in BMW?
Travis: It's a nine gallon tank you can go 450 miles on. I'm going to sell the car on the auto trader I don' get ripped.
Travis: 16995
(Sell on the Auto Trader? Not to JA?)

April 11, 2008
Travis: I know you are busy but there are things I need to know that concern me. Did you hear from the attorneys, have a job, mail my stuff back etc?

April 18, 2008
Travis asked JA for her address so he can send some things to her. She seemed really grateful. Then they get into an argument about JA not completing a picture project for Travis. Part of what Travis texted- '.....I have let you have a car money, and a whole hell of a lot of time lately and your cousin that doesn't do anything for you is the priority. You couldn't scrap a dozen of 500 pictures to help me .......'
(In his text, there is no comma between car and money. What is a car money?)

April 22, 2008
JA: I love my car!!!!!
Travis: Good =)
(What is this about? Does she love her junk Infiniti or BMW?)

April 28, 2008
JA: Don't forget to reinstate your membership and call your insurance and Davis Miles today!!!
Travis: I haven't got my card
JA: Then report it stolen immediately! This is week 2, yes I've been counting. Wamu never takes this long. Be vigilant.
(Why does Travis has to call Davis Miles? Davis Miles is an attorney she called on March 31)

April 30, 2008
JA: What did ur car magnet say (before it was stolen)?
Travis: Prepaid legal and my number
(I don't know what this about?? )


May 9, 2008
During 'Steve coverup' fight
Travis: '......You are a real piece of work, by the way thanks for keeping your end of the contract you made by paying me for the car you destroyed. You are more and more like your mom everyday. Going to Cooperstown while you owe me thousands. What integrity.'
(I wonder what kind of agreement was in that contract and when it was created, or is this statement just a figure of speech)

May 22, 2008
JA: 'You need to hear about what happened and why. Am I guilty? Yes. But it's more than just that. The stuff involving you is just a fraction of what has happened. I'm in a BIG mess. I have a lot of apologizing to do to a lot of people. I didn't even see this one coming and I can't believe how stupid I was! I really really screwed the pooch on this one. So badly I have to call Parker Stan tomorrow. What's the deal? Call me and We'll talk. This is serious, you need to know.'
(So could this be related to BMW?)



BBM:


It sounds like someone had stolen a magnetic sign he had on his car.


Davis Miles was the firm that represented PPL in the AZ./NM. areas. I took it as his (Travis') credit card or bank card had been stolen since Desert School is a credit card.
 
ALV lied on her CV but lying under oath was a different matter. I remember Juan saying 'Judge, can we go ahead with what we talked about on break'. That was right before the chit hit the fan, after another excruciatingly long sidebar of course!

I think Juan filed perjury charges against her. I wonder if her charge for all her work was erased by Juan because she lied under oath? Does anyone know how that works?

Interesting....Are you thinking they talked about perjury in the break, then got back to the cross, then ALV got talking, then Martinez asked to "go ahead with what they talked about on break," then there was a sidebar to talk about the issue (instigated by JM or KN objection, it's moot)?

I always thought what they talked about on break related to Jodi and something Martinez wanted to question ALV on.

Was ALV in the discussion with JSS during the break?
 
I was re-watching JA's parents interview with Det. Flores.

I feel bad for them. They KNEW something was not right with her, and Sandy even said that's one of the reasons they wanted her to move back to Yreka.

This is my own feeling... based on people I have known/met in this city (NY) who seem to internalize their anger until their explosive moment of exasperation kicks in (that stems from bad parenting right there).

I personally get the feeling the Arias' would relish upon the notion of sympathy. It is convenient for them to expect some sympathy yet when I look at every picture of their other children (pre-JA indictment included), I see something bizarre. They are all sullen, inexpressive, (as well as JA sister seems immature and reactionary, JA brother seems withdrawn), and it always comes across as if they lacked a proper nurturing environment. I'm not a fan of Nurmi's but I believe the dirty comment from Sandy towards those she feels inferior to (skinny blonde b*tch or something to that effect, again, sounds like JA's mantra to be more verbally abusive towards women). Sorry but that immaturity, sneaky type of nastiness, I've seen it before. Sandy in the courtroom (whispering into someone's ear during heartfelt Alexander testimony, the constant smirking, so many more times that were inappropriate, etc etc). I'm of the opinion that apple did NOT fall far from that tree.

I'm on some deep thought process here but I asked myself what it could have been like growing up with Arias' parents and suddenly get a feeling of subdued restraint and sense the limitations as to how one could evolve. You would not be allowed* to accelerate your education (did any of them ever want to hold a post-baccalaureate degree in biology, for example?). I doubt they would want a little Einstein with potential 'mouthing off' to them or whatever (I'm sure they would want to show them OFF, however: hypocrisy). Perhaps they felt children are only useful for doing the dishes, taking out the trash, listening to and 'honoring thy parents at all costs,' (reputation is a BIG deal for ALL of the Arias'!) that is what I figure.

I also sense that healthy encouragement or discouraging attitudes and *normal* disagreements regarding ethical behavior towards their child-adolescent behavior were too much for their 'parenting style' as opposed to being a vital component of personality development, a precursor to bonding, and/or normal for conveying clear emotional distress and/or boundaries, or recognizing the value of another person's feelings (ok, you are sensitive about that, why? or no, that is wrong but why do you feel that way? or I see, so this is important because of...etc etc, instead, it's "just do what I say, or else"). That contributes to a narcissistic child's sense of powerlessness and future entitlement/weapon. It's also narcissistically parent-centric. I actually realized they fit the The Narcissistic Family (informative read) that covers this type of parenting environment.

Anyhow, they're older now, so I suspect much of their withdrawn body language is due to blame associated to their guilt (I actually see a manifestation of buried guilt, not weary parents unjustly burdened). I don't buy the Fred and Wilma act with them. Borderlines aren't an independent conception. The only two I met did not come from a responsible household. And often the parents *relate* to them in regards to inappropriate behavior, attitude, self-pity, repression of emotional/sociological/biological expression (just a bad formula). It'd be too convenient for Sandy to not take the credit for her daughter now. She may not have been able to predict someone's homicide, but I think the Arias' definitely fostered unhealthy outbursts and resentment from all of their children. They don't want anyone to know that is all...
 
Why I think the part that is too incriminating to put in writing on May 22 could be about BMW:
Mainly because JA goes out of her way to show, prove, and leave evidence that she is taking responsibility for the BMW, just in case there is any future investigation that may come after the planned murder.

For example,
-JA made sure to place her "BMW payment"check in Travis's house, for police to find.

-JA texted 'hey, are you going to deposit that check' after killing him. (This one served two purpose. 'I don't know you are dead/I wasn't there' and 'Please make sure to notice that I paid him.')

- On May 22, she writes in her journal - 'We still have his car to take care of, but he'll keep me posted on any new developments. He said if all else fails then we'll just scrap it. but I would never do him wrong. Anyway, that concludes things, I guess.
(This is nothing more than her effort to doctor her journal entry, sort of to set the record straight in typical JA's way , again just in case she gets investigated. By May 22, Travis was in no mood to agree to just scrap the car)


Possible BMW related texts :
March 31, 2008
8:51 AM - JA: Call me as soon as u wake up. I've already called Davis Miles.
1:26 PM - JA: Is it OK if I drop off your car now? Is he expecting it?
1:37 PM- JA Are they both Desert Schools? and phn #?
1:38 PM- Travis: It shows you one is wamu, one is desert schools

April 5, 2008
Chris Hughes: How much u spend? Trade in BMW?
Travis: It's a nine gallon tank you can go 450 miles on. I'm going to sell the car on the auto trader I don' get ripped.
Travis: 16995
(Sell on the Auto Trader? Not to JA?)

April 11, 2008
Travis: I know you are busy but there are things I need to know that concern me. Did you hear from the attorneys, have a job, mail my stuff back etc?

April 18, 2008
Travis asked JA for her address so he can send some things to her. She seemed really grateful. Then they get into an argument about JA not completing a picture project for Travis. Part of what Travis texted- '.....I have let you have a car money, and a whole hell of a lot of time lately and your cousin that doesn't do anything for you is the priority. You couldn't scrap a dozen of 500 pictures to help me .......'
(In his text, there is no comma between car and money. What is a car money?)

April 22, 2008
JA: I love my car!!!!!
Travis: Good =)
(What is this about? Does she love her junk Infiniti or BMW?)

April 28, 2008
JA: Don't forget to reinstate your membership and call your insurance and Davis Miles today!!!
Travis: I haven't got my card
JA: Then report it stolen immediately! This is week 2, yes I've been counting. Wamu never takes this long. Be vigilant.
(Why does Travis has to call Davis Miles? Davis Miles is an attorney she called on March 31)

April 30, 2008
JA: What did ur car magnet say (before it was stolen)?
Travis: Prepaid legal and my number
(I don't know what this about?? )


May 9, 2008
During 'Steve coverup' fight
Travis: '......You are a real piece of work, by the way thanks for keeping your end of the contract you made by paying me for the car you destroyed. You are more and more like your mom everyday. Going to Cooperstown while you owe me thousands. What integrity.'
(I wonder what kind of agreement was in that contract and when it was created, or is this statement just a figure of speech)

May 22, 2008
JA: 'You need to hear about what happened and why. Am I guilty? Yes. But it's more than just that. The stuff involving you is just a fraction of what has happened. I'm in a BIG mess. I have a lot of apologizing to do to a lot of people. I didn't even see this one coming and I can't believe how stupid I was! I really really screwed the pooch on this one. So badly I have to call Parker Stan tomorrow. What's the deal? Call me and We'll talk. This is serious, you need to know.'
(So could this be related to BMW?)

Is it possible that the people at the UHaul were deposed and they told a different story than the one JA told? Maybe she put the car in gear on purpose to ruin it and then blamed it on the U-Haul people. Maybe the U-Haul people had witnesses or a video of them hooking it up right. This is something they do all the time. They probable explained it to JA while they were doing it and she came up with the bright idea of destroying his car and further ruining him financially.
 
lol, thanks ... i was like... ee, controversial but ... i should post lol
 
lol, thanks ... i was like... ee, controversial but ... i should post lol


I am glad you posted it as it puts into words what I have thought also. It is a great post and I for one can't feel sorry for them. Had the killers family made an effort to express any real condolence to the family of Travis, I might have respected them... well maybe a little. :thinking:
 
Is it possible that the people at the UHaul were deposed and they told a different story than the one JA told? Maybe she put the car in gear on purpose to ruin it and then blamed it on the U-Haul people. Maybe the U-Haul people had witnesses or a video of them hooking it up right. This is something they do all the time. They probable explained it to JA while they were doing it and she came up with the bright idea of destroying his car and further ruining him financially.

Color me stupid, but would U-Haul employees hook the car up, or is that up to whomever was towing the car? Anytime I moved, we hired a moving company so I really am not familiar with U-Haul.
 
Color me stupid, but would U-Haul employees hook the car up, or is that up to whomever was towing the car? Anytime I moved, we hired a moving company so I really am not familiar with U-Haul.

I don't know either but perhaps someone on here will know.
 
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