Sidebar Discussion #2

[beach]

Social media accounts including Facebook, MySpace and Twitter are not permitted to be linked unless they are MSM or verified posters' pages.

I just removed several (they were quoted) but I'm not sure I got them all. Please alert if you see anymore. This is how rumors get started.

 

[2goldfish]

Is that possible?

yes, because as far as media ever reported, every last one of 'em somehow remained potty trained throughout court. if they slip up and say something else foolish, I am gonna rethink my stance that just because it wasnt reported in the media, does not mean they were in fact able to control such base functions.


:floorlaugh:

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Bet the words "NOT GUILTY" are words in her dictionary.

They could be on her wish-list, but not in the reality of her future.

She's the most hated person in America, known for the most hated crime among human beings including the most hardened criminals.

She had more of a chance of being perceived "not guilty" had she been convicted than she does now. At least in prison, there are those few who are thought of as "wrongly convicted". Casey Marie Anthony will forever be known as "wrongly released".

 

[strawberry]

Social media accounts including Facebook, MySpace and Twitter are not permitted to be linked unless they are MSM or verified posters' pages.

I just removed several (they were quoted) but I'm not sure I got them all. Please alert if you see anymore. This is how rumors get started.

Sorry..I thought it was MSM only only for the Twitter thread. My bad.

 

[wonders]

Yes, and just think - can you say a claim of Stockholm Syndrome? Something in common with OCA - she has to hide and they have to hide...all we need is them feeling even more sympathy for her...:banghead:

Isn't that the truth!
Think of this...12 jurors = 12 homes = a home for the poor little whaff (extreme eye roll) for each month of the year. Bet they'd love that!

 

[HMSHood]

They could be on her wish-list, but not in the reality of her future.

She's the most hated person in America, known for the most hated crime among human beings including the most hardened criminals.

She had more of a chance of being perceived "not guilty" had she been convicted than she does now. At least in prison, there are those few who are thought of as "wrongly convicted". Casey Marie Anthony will forever be known as "wrongly released".

Face it, Casey Anthony joins the ranks of other public enemies like:
Osama bin Laden
Fred Phelps
Lori Drew
South Hadley 6
Joran van der Sloot
OJ Simpson
Charles Manson
Adolf Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Pol Pot
Idi Amin
Jeffrey Dahmer
Ted Bundy

She may as well change her name to those names listed.

 

[bayouland]

Once the jurors names are announced, what will follow? Will the jurors then speak to the media, since their names will now be known? Will any of them voice regrets over the verdict, and state they wish they had not acquitted her? Will the media hound them for interviews, or has this case dropped far enough below the radar that no one is interested in what the jurors have to say at this point? Will some of them announce they are working on a book together? When approached by the media will any of them say simply, "no comment?" What will happen to the lives of these jurors once their names are released?

Well, just my two cents but in my opinion the fallout for attacking juror's could impact the rulings in the cases that FCA is involved in. They want to use the position that she is in harms way, and keep referring to it in every motion that they file. As for me, I am keeping my mouth SHUT about these jurors, for the very reason that the DUH-FENSE will say, "look, they are attacking the jurors, think what they will do th FCA". She is in danger....blah blah blah...

I say give them ZERO ammo. The time to ask them to explain is NOT NOW.

JMO. REPEAT JMO.

 

[wonders]

Well, just my two cents but in my opinion the fallout for attacking juror's could impact the rulings in the cases that FCA is involved in. They want to use the position that she is in harms way, and keep referring to it in every motion that they file. As for me, I am keeping my mouth SHUT about these jurors, for the very reason that the DUH-FENSE will say, "look, they are attacking the jurors, think what they will do th FCA". She is in danger....blah blah blah...

I say give them ZERO ammo. The time to ask them to explain is NOT NOW.

JMO. REPEAT JMO.

Not me boy!!!! (lol, not saying your a boy). :blushing:
I'm not keeping my mouth shut about anything to do with OCA. It's not like I'm going around thearting to kill anyone that has anything to do with the case. I'm pretty sure most people feel the same as me about not harming anyone who has a connection to this awful case. She has no reason to be treated special by the justice system. If her lawyers think she's in danger then it should be on them not the tax payers of Florida.
IMO silence has caused a lot of harm for people through out history, The Holocost comes to my mind first.
IMO if the jurors don't want to talk to anyone then fine by me. I also don't think anyone should seek to harm the jurors. They did what they did and nothing will ever change that, not even coming forward and saying they made a big mistake in not convicting OCA. Personally I think the time to speak would have been directly after the trial before they had a chance to hone their stories. Them letting her go free is something they have to live with, not me.

 

[Well Done 99]

Sorry..I thought it was MSM only only for the Twitter thread. My bad.

:seeya:
Mine too. Sorry.

 

[logicalgirl]

Not me boy!!!! (lol, not saying your a boy). :blushing:
I'm not keeping my mouth shut about anything to do with OCA. It's not like I'm going around thearting to kill anyone that has anything to do with the case. I'm pretty sure most people feel the same as me about not harming anyone who has a connection to this awful case. She has no reason to be treated special by the justice system. If her lawyers think she's in danger then it should be on them not the tax payers of Florida.
IMO silence has caused a lot of harm for people through out history, The Holocost comes to my mind first.
IMO if the jurors don't want to talk to anyone then fine by me. I also don't think anyone should seek to harm the jurors. They did what they did and nothing will ever change that, not even coming forward and saying they made a big mistake in not convicting OCA. Personally I think the time to speak would have been directly after the trial before they had a chance to hone their stories. Them letting her go free is something they have to live with, not me.

You get my 150% agreement on this comment - we can criticize in a civilized , mature and objective manner to express our opinion - it does not mean we intend violence towards the jurors. Dislike, or even disgust - yes - does not mean physical harm.

I actually believe it is our civic duty to our country and this earth to express our opinions when we disagree with the government or our legal system.

 

[bayouland]

Not me boy!!!! (lol, not saying your a boy). :blushing:
I'm not keeping my mouth shut about anything to do with OCA. It's not like I'm going around thearting to kill anyone that has anything to do with the case. I'm pretty sure most people feel the same as me about not harming anyone who has a connection to this awful case. She has no reason to be treated special by the justice system. If her lawyers think she's in danger then it should be on them not the tax payers of Florida.
IMO silence has caused a lot of harm for people through out history, The Holocost comes to my mind first.
IMO if the jurors don't want to talk to anyone then fine by me. I also don't think anyone should seek to harm the jurors. They did what they did and nothing will ever change that, not even coming forward and saying they made a big mistake in not convicting OCA. That is something they have to live with, not me.

I understand completely and weren't it for the all the information we have learned that the duh-fense used to win this case, I would agree with you. I am referring to the jury consultants (and blog consultants) who kept texting Baez the whole trial giving him the pulse of bloggers. They are still using blog info and excuse after excuse why FCA should be treated differently. Attacking juror's will benefit them I believe.

JMO

 

[logicalgirl]

Thankyou very much SOTS. I'll certainly be reading this.
Most people with a smart phone, iPhone, Android operating system etc are unaware that, when they have Location Services turned on in their settings (for gps, maps or many other services) they are being tracked.
Telemarketers are the worst offenders for the gleaning and use of this information.
So many people fail to understand why that credit card or life insurance application ended up in their letterbox.
Unfortunately, there's not really any countermeasures we can take because we DO use our devices and these types of services in the modern age.

You know the saying nothing in this world is ever free - it especially applies to apps - free - yes - is there a hook you might not know about? YES!

 

[bayouland]

You get my 150% agreement on this comment - we can criticize in a civilized , mature and objective manner to express our opinion - it does not mean we intend violence towards the jurors. Dislike, or even disgust - yes - does not mean physical harm.

I actually believe it is our civic duty to our country and this earth to express our opinions when we disagree with the government or our legal system.

I agree with both of you 100% in principal but I also believe actions, questions, and attacks will backfire. Yes, it is our civic duty, yes, to all of the above. But, I won't be naiive enough to think that the defense won't use the outrage to their strategic advantage.

 

[logicalgirl]

I understand completely and weren't it for the all the information we have learned that the duh-fense used to win this case, I would agree with you. I am referring to the jury consultants (and blog consultants) who kept texting Baez the whole trial giving him the pulse of bloggers. They are still using blog info and excuse after excuse why FCA should be treated differently. Attacking juror's will benefit them I believe.

JMO

I still think it depends on how we express our feelings - and I have no intention of having a group such as this Defense Team manipulate me into a behaviour I don't believe in...because that is the flip side of the coin. And I think I have a mature attitude...in general.

A lot of years ago, well after the EST years, I went to a personal development four day seminar in San Jose. Perhaps 400 of us filed into an auditorium and were told not to speak, and to wait for the "leader" to appear. He was not going to come in to speak until he felt the crowd was ready. An hour went by, and some of us stared to quietly chat and shift around in our seats. We were shushed by the folks around us. Another hour went by - and I had had enough. I stood up and said well I'm going to go out and sit in the sun and have a cigarette or two - since I paid for this seminar - you all can let me know when he decides to come in. People shouted at me to sit down, I was only going to delay his arrival if we didn't behave and out I went - soon to be joined by about a hundred more. Of course he came trotting in very shortly after that and tried to regain control - and never truly got it back.

Oh - and I didn't follow instructions to get up in the AM and immediately have a three minute cold shower either.....:floorlaugh: so much for self improvement seminars - but San Jose was nice....

 

[Well Done 99]

You know the saying nothing in this world is ever free - it especially applies to apps - free - yes - is there a hook you might not know about? YES!

Best example? Free wifi hotspot locating apps. The first thing you get is a pop-up asking you turn on your location services (in fact it won't work properly unless you do so). What is some entity out there learning when you turn it on?
Not only where you currently are, but what type of places you frequent. Scary!

On the credit card security issue .... someone went on a nice $7000 spending spree with a copy of my card about a year ago, suspected to have made from a 'scan' of my original. Fools. They only shopped in major stores with video cameras and got nabbed before they even got a chance to use the computer equipment they had 'stolen'

 

[bayouland]

I still think it depends on how we express our feelings - and I have no intention of having a group such as this Defense Team manipulate me into a behaviour I don't believe in...because that is the flip side of the coin. And I think I have a mature attitude...in general.

A lot of years ago, well after the EST years, I went to a personal development four day seminar in San Jose. Perhaps 400 of us filed into an auditorium and were told not to speak, and to wait for the "leader" to appear. He was not going to come in to speak until he felt the crowd was ready. An hour went by, and some of us stared to quietly chat and shift around in our seats. We were shushed by the folks around us. Another hour went by - and I had had enough. I stood up and said well I'm going to go out and sit in the sun and have a cigarette or two - since I paid for this seminar - you all can let me know when he decides to come in. People shouted at me to sit down, I was only going to delay his arrival if we didn't behave and out I went - soon to be joined by about a hundred more. Of course he came trotting in very shortly after that and tried to regain control - and never truly got it back.

Oh - and I didn't follow instructions to get up in the AM and immediately have a three minute cold shower either.....:floorlaugh: so much for self improvement seminars - but San Jose was nice....

Great story....I love assertiveness. I hope you all can see where I am coming from and I am not asking any of you to agree with me.

Here's my concerns. Even thought no one has physically done anything to
juror's or FCA, look what has happened based on the duh-fense allegations from blog activity.

1. Judge Strictland recused himself from the case.
2.Judge Perry sealed the juror's names.
3. Judge Perry has allowed the Department of Corrections to seal the location of the offender.
4.The offender was allowed to attend a deposition in disquise.

This is preferential treatment based on a the perceived fear of the judiciary. The fear came from the defense crying DANGER DANGER.

The Judges are listening. they will continue to listen. Any verbal attacks or perceived threats to jurors will be taken seriously and FCA will reap the rewards.

All I am interested in is FCA losing everything. Every dime, every special privilege, every strategic advantage.

That's all. JMO.

 

[everyoneneedsavoice]

Tuesday can't come soon enough, for me! I think the juror's have been in hiding long enough!

 

[logicalgirl]

Great story....I love assertiveness. I hope you all can see where I am coming from and I am not asking any of you to agree with me.

Here's my concerns. Even thought no one has physically done anything to
juror's or FCA, look what has happened based on the duh-fense allegations from blog activity.

1. Judge Strictland recused himself from the case.
2.Judge Perry sealed the juror's names.
3. Judge Perry has allowed the Department of Corrections to seal the location of the offender.
4.The offender was allowed to attend a deposition in disquise.

This is preferential treatment based on a the perceived fear of the judiciary. The fear came from the defense crying DANGER DANGER.

The Judges are listening. they will continue to listen. Any verbal attacks or perceived threats to jurors will be taken seriously and FCA will reap the rewards.

All I am interested in is FCA losing everything. Every dime, every special privilege, every strategic advantage.

That's all. JMO.

Well HHSS IMO recused himself to end the silliness - and I do understand somewhat the reasons for sealing the juror's names immediately after the trial...folks were pretty mad and think they would have been mercilessly harassed - and I think the courts have a duty to protect jurors who have (apparently) done their civic duty if they themselves express fear.

The protection of OCA is IMO way off the board for being completely ridiculous.

That said - I absolutely defend your right to stand up and say this is my opinion and I'm sticking to it - I'd do the same thing if it was my opinion and heaven knows I've done enough of that very thing on the board. You go girl - it's your right...:rocker:

 

[strawberry]

Well, just my two cents but in my opinion the fallout for attacking juror's could impact the rulings in the cases that FCA is involved in. They want to use the position that she is in harms way, and keep referring to it in every motion that they file. As for me, I am keeping my mouth SHUT about these jurors, for the very reason that the DUH-FENSE will say, "look, they are attacking the jurors, think what they will do th FCA". She is in danger....blah blah blah...

I say give them ZERO ammo. The time to ask them to explain is NOT NOW.

JMO. REPEAT JMO.

I was thinking the same thing. I hope it gets barely a blip so the judge can't justify this KC/Philly Ball Girl character-is-in danger carp.

 

[wonders]

I understand completely and weren't it for the all the information we have learned that the duh-fense used to win this case, I would agree with you. I am referring to the jury consultants (and blog consultants) who kept texting Baez the whole trial giving him the pulse of bloggers. They are still using blog info and excuse after excuse why FCA should be treated differently. Attacking juror's will benefit them I believe.

JMO

I sure hope it's ok for you and I to agree to disagree.
I don't think blogs will benefit them in the long run any more, everyone is onto the scheming lawyers who insist on representing OCA pro-bono. As I said before the justice system does not need to protect OCA at tax payer expense, her lawyers need to as they are the ones claiming 'harm to our client'. They have yet to show any credible evidence that anyone has said they will harm OCA.

I will shout from the rooftops that the jury was too lazy or bullied into setting this horrible woman free. Jennifer Ford said something to the effect that she didn't know what kind of punishment OCA deserved durning the guilt phase of the trial. That had no bearing at all at that point.

The jury did this, not you, not me, the jury. If they sleep well at night then good for them and if the don't then o-well, they can live with it, I don't care.