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no one wants to HURT her, but if she was suddenly struck by lightning, I wouldnt exactly be weeping into my teacup, ya know?
 
2goldfish said:
the thing is, and if they want to use "bloggers" as evidence, they can all feel free & clear to use MY posts, particularly this one -

nobody wants OCA to be hurt.

we REALLY LIKE for her to be ANNOYED, INCONVENIENCED, and other things of this nature.

cant use your real name or people spit on you? GOOD.

have hemorrhoids and a pesky yeast infection, maybe BOTH?? GOOD.

roof leaking? GOOD.

cats hiss at you when you pass by? GOOD.

bad case of acne that wont die? GOOD.

you've had hiccups for 5 days running? GOOD.

sprained your ankle running? GOOD.

electronics keep breaking? GOOD.

toilet leaking? GOOD!

tons of people suing you? GOOD.

sunburned? GOOD.

dont get along with your family? GOOD.

you bend over and your jeans split? GOOD.

got split ends? GOOD.

broke a fingernail? got papercuts? got blisters from your shoes? stub your toe? ALL GOOD.

get it, defense? I, personally, and I dare say MOST people, would like nothing more than ICA being sorely inconvenienced at ANY and ALL times. harm her? wouldnt that make me no better than she? most people dont LIKE to hurt other people. OCA is no exception. but aggravated and inconvenienced? yeah, if she was my neighbor....I would deliberately blow dandelions into her lawn. yes, I would. that's the kind of "vigilante" I am.

please, defense. print this out and show the judges how terribly OCA would be treated if no one pets her. I dare you.
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I vote post of the day and it's only 5:30AM!!!!! :crazy::crazy:
 
RANCH said:
Well Done 99. Do you have any Killa Mob or 4th St Bloods in your neighborhood? I was asked if I knew of these fellas during jury selection.
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:floorlaugh:
Only surfers and suburban types in my neck of the woods.
The streets of Sydney's outer suburbs are a different story though. Lol
 
logicalgirl said:
Thank you! That was a weird seminar I went to and when I left the auditorium I didn't make a scene or speak loudly or stomp out - I was pretty quiet about it and just spoke to the people I was sitting with and those who stopped me on the way out.

But you are bang on - I hate being bullied. I think the most precious right we have is to be able to make our own choices about what we believe...and it's equally our own responsibility to weigh and balance those choices to the best of our ability. And I've never felt anyone should necessarily agree with me.

Fortunately - I've also been blessed with a real curiosity about what other people "think". I Know I don't necessarily want to change their opinion - only that's it's fascinating to be able to see how they got from x to y. Which is why I like this board so much. People are really opinionated - and I think that's a very good thing!
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Group mentality . It almost sounds like one of the demonstrations that are done to see if individuals go along with group ,even though it goes against their belief system.

You were the hero who stood up . We need a LOT more of that in the world :highfive:
 
2goldfish said:
the thing is, and if they want to use "bloggers" as evidence, they can all feel free & clear to use MY posts, particularly this one -

nobody wants OCA to be hurt.

we REALLY LIKE for her to be ANNOYED, INCONVENIENCED, and other things of this nature.

cant use your real name or people spit on you? GOOD.

have hemorrhoids and a pesky yeast infection, maybe BOTH?? GOOD.

roof leaking? GOOD.

cats hiss at you when you pass by? GOOD.







bad case of acne that wont die? GOOD.

you've had hiccups for 5 days running? GOOD.

sprained your ankle running? GOOD.

electronics keep breaking? GOOD.

toilet leaking? GOOD!

tons of people suing you? GOOD.

sunburned? GOOD.











dont get along with your family? GOOD.

you bend over and your jeans split? GOOD.

got split ends? GOOD.



broke a fingernail? got papercuts? got blisters from your shoes? stub your toe? ALL GOOD.

get it, defense? I, personally, and I dare say MOST people, would like nothing more than ICA being sorely inconvenienced at ANY and ALL times. harm her? wouldnt that make me no better than she? most people dont LIKE to hurt other people. OCA is no exception. but aggravated and inconvenienced? yeah, if she was my neighbor....I would deliberately blow dandelions into her lawn. yes, I would. that's the kind of "vigilante" I am.

please, defense. print this out and show the judges how terribly OCA would be treated if no one pets her. I da.
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wonders said:
My reply's in red.


Or even in a not so humerous way huh?

Thanks for your post MsMacGyver.
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Oh I'm sure they do it in both a humorous and "other" way - I joked that when Baez would pull a particularly ridiculous blooper during the trial and HHJP would call for a quick break - he was actually holding his laughter in long enough to leave the bench to go and text "Stan" with - "you're not going to believe this.".
 
MissJames said:
Group mentality . It almost sounds like one of the demonstrations that are done to see if individuals go along with group ,even though it goes against their belief system.

You were the hero who stood up . We need a LOT more of that in the world :highfive:
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Always so kind MissJames which is why I adore you and your posts!

This is kind of sideways but since we're in the Sidebar I'll give it a go anyhow.
As many of you know - I spent my childhood and teen years being different - outside of the normal social structure and always felt different...and was different.

The kinds of things people talk about - their parents, their family holidays, their sibling experiences etc were "foreign" to me - I had no similar experiences to bind me to the majority of the population. Some people have good experiences, some bad but when you have "no" experiences - well....

So I always wanted to "belong"...it faded as I matured - and I think this seminar really defined for me that what is - is....what I got in this life was what I got and time to finally set down my own "burden" and just be....this person I turned out to be.

In a weird way - it's ended up giving me a lot of personal freedom of thought..if that makes any sense at all...:waitasec:
 
wonders said:
My reply's in red.


Or even in a not so humerous way huh?

Thanks for your post MsMacGyver.
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You got it!...:rocker:

Sometimes my point gets lost..You got it!....:rocker:

I was so tired last night it took me a half hour to write that post..I had a hard time reading through to make sure I presented it in the right way.
Thank You..:seeya:

Everyone who has worked knows there's certain things that go on behind the scenes, things you can get away with. Manipulate situations, not in a bad way..sometimes I had to play the poor helpless woman with some guys to get something done. I knew who it would work on and who would just do what I asked right away. Office politics I had to deal with, the owners favorites and so on and so on. My brother is in LE, has been for years. We've talked about similar problems at work but I worked at a factory. Similar problems effect different professions. I started to wonder what problems Judges deal with on a daily basis, what shenanigans go on behind the scenes that we never hear about or see.

LL Judge was treating LL like the child she is behaving like. The Judge is likely a mom, she ordered 16 hours of service for LL..at the morgue! She's trying to show LL where her life is heading or going to end...Brilliant!
I was surprised when the TH's commented on it because this was my first thought..Judge is trying to save this girls life. Then some "friend" bails her out...LL should have stayed in jail where she is safe..Waiting for a report on her either killing someone while driving drunk or she OD's with drugs!

My point is..did Judge S want to throw the A trial into someone elses lap...Did he see future problems coming with the DT and as smart as JS is, cut JB off at the pass!...I think so but what do I know?....jmo

ps...I can see Judge P flipping the bird with the best of em....:woohoo:
 
logicalgirl said:
Always so kind MissJames which is why I adore you and your posts!

This is kind of sideways but since we're in the Sidebar I'll give it a go anyhow.
As many of you know - I spent my childhood and teen years being different - outside of the normal social structure and always felt different...and was different.

The kinds of things people talk about - their parents, their family holidays, their sibling experiences etc were "foreign" to me - I had no similar experiences to bind me to the majority of the population. Some people have good experiences, some bad but when you have "no" experiences - well....

So I always wanted to "belong"...it faded as I matured - and I think this seminar really defined for me that what is - is....what I got in this life was what I got and time to finally set down my own "burden" and just be....this person I turned out to be.

In a weird way - it's ended up giving me a lot of personal freedom of thought..if that makes any sense at all...:waitasec:
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Well, you belong here even though you have gotten over that need to feel like you have to fit in.

Since I don't know you I can only go by what I read and that is you have stong convictions, guts, and smarts. You are a detail oriented person and a compassionate one who stands up for what you believe in.

I am originally from KY and you would fit in very well in my hometown where everyone is opinionated!!! LOL.

That's all the compliments you are getting from me today Mom. LOL :crazy::crazy:
 
MsMacGyver said:
You got it!...:rocker:

Sometimes my point gets lost..You got it!....:rocker:

I was so tired last night it took me a half hour to write that post..I had a hard time reading through to make sure I presented it in the right way.
Thank You..:seeya:

Everyone who has worked knows there's certain things that go on behind the scenes, things you can get away with. Manipulate situations, not in a bad way..sometimes I had to play the poor helpless woman with some guys to get something done. I knew who it would work on and who would just do what I asked right away. Office politics I had to deal with, the owners favorites and so on and so on. My brother is in LE, has been for years. We've talked about similar problems at work but I worked at a factory. Similar problems effect different professions. I started to wonder what problems Judges deal with on a daily basis, what shenanigans go on behind the scenes that we never hear about or see.

LL Judge was treating LL like the child she is behaving like. The Judge is likely a mom, she ordered 16 hours of service for LL..at the morgue! She's trying to show LL where her life is heading or going to end...Brilliant!
I was surprised when the TH's commented on it because this was my first thought..Judge is trying to save this girls life. Then some "friend" bails her out...LL should have stayed in jail where she is safe..Waiting for a report on her either killing someone while driving drunk or she OD's with drugs!

My point is..did Judge S want to throw the A trial into someone elses lap...Did he see future problems coming with the DT and as smart as JS is, cut JB off at the pass!...I think so but what do I know?....jmo

ps...I can see Judge P flipping the bird with the best of em....:woohoo:
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I don't think JB had issues with HHSS. I think it was CM. I believe there were issues between the two and CM saw the perfect opportunity to get SS to recluse himself. I also think HHJP took over because he was the only one who knew he could handle CM. jmo
 
logicalgirl said:
Always so kind MissJames which is why I adore you and your posts!

This is kind of sideways but since we're in the Sidebar I'll give it a go anyhow.
As many of you know - I spent my childhood and teen years being different - outside of the normal social structure and always felt different...and was different.

The kinds of things people talk about - their parents, their family holidays, their sibling experiences etc were "foreign" to me - I had no similar experiences to bind me to the majority of the population. Some people have good experiences, some bad but when you have "no" experiences - well....

So I always wanted to "belong"...it faded as I matured - and I think this seminar really defined for me that what is - is....what I got in this life was what I got and time to finally set down my own "burden" and just be....this person I turned out to be.

In a weird way - it's ended up giving me a lot of personal freedom of thought..if that makes any sense at all...:waitasec:
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Makes perfect sense LG...When you told that story my first thought was..this is a lesson disguised as a rule...You know I never take anything at face value...You were the first one to break the rule..the prize student if you will....:rocker:

I understand your point from your childhood. You had different challenges to face. The strange thing is some people are closer to their friends, sometimes treat friends better than family members. My friend knows more about me than my own sister. Theres always an up side and down to most every situation you find yourself in. It's all about perception. While one person in your position might have felt sorry for themselves, never asking how they could change their lot in life. You on the other hand, chose to change the rules of the game. You stood up to your past and changed it. Pat yourself on the back for that one.....:woohoo:

Some of us including myself understand where your coming from even though we took a different road...we both have gotten to the same place. I came here because I can't work anymore. I worked a factory job, a place I felt I never belonged but it paid the bills. I miss my group of friends. I'm a mom, I took care of some of these people, others I smacked up side their head and a very few I had a close friendship with. I'm that person who has one or two close friends her whole life but can usually get along with anybody. I returned here after being absent to share opinions and to replace what I miss about my job, a group of friends to belong to.

Someone told me a long time ago to thank the people in your life who treated you the worst because those were the times you learned the most valuable lessons. Those were the times you discovered who you really are, how strong you can be. Some people go through their whole life and never know how strong they really are. We are all survivors of something!

I've been trying to remember...the movie Hope Floats. At the end Sandra Bullock tells her daughter something and I can't remember exactly how it went. Something to the effect that we spend our whole lives trying to recover from our childhood.

I spent my teens feeling different, outside the norm also. Part of this is because most teens do go through this phase. Kids express it in different ways. We can use this to look at FCA and wonder how she expressed this. As we get older we learn that different can also mean special or unique which was my first impression of you. I felt that if we had met, we could possibly have become close as sisters sometimes do. When I returned to this site I felt like you took it upon yourself to be the welcome wagon. Along with others here you took the time to say Welcome...come on in!...:seeya:

You should be proud of yourself, you've created your own family. You took the time to ask...WHY
You worked hard on yourself and your career and I for one have respect for anyone that works that hard for anything in their life....:heartbeat:
 
I read Judge P's motion to see if the juror names will actually be released on this Tues. Oct. 25...... here is a link to the pdf motion.

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/Motion-JurorsNames-0726.pdf

#2 at the end in ORDERED says (I snipped at the "......." 's)
bbum
"Court Administration for the Ninth Judicial Circuit......upon request, may release the names only of the fourteen seated jurors who have not already voluntarily released their names in this matter, on or after October 25, 2011. ......

DONE AND ORDERED in Chambers, .... on this 26th day of July 2011."

/s/ JBPerry
I assume the media will "request" on Oct. 25, but I am wondering if they will be released on Oct. 25, OR AFTER??? may not be exactly Tuesday........ anyway, that is how I read the Order.


MAY RELEASE.........ON OR AFTER

I guess we will see ....... nothing in this case is as we ever expect it to be.

IMO, MOO, etc.
 
MsMacGyver said:
Makes perfect sense LG...When you told that story my first thought was..this is a lesson disguised as a rule...You know I never take anything at face value...You were the first one to break the rule..the prize student if you will....:rocker:

I understand your point from your childhood. You had different challenges to face. The strange thing is some people are closer to their friends, sometimes treat friends better than family members. My friend knows more about me than my own sister. Theres always an up side and down to most every situation you find yourself in. It's all about perception. While one person in your position might have felt sorry for themselves, never asking how they could change their lot in life. You on the other hand, chose to change the rules of the game. You stood up to your past and changed it. Pat yourself on the back for that one.....:woohoo:

Some of us including myself understand where your coming from even though we took a different road...we both have gotten to the same place. I came here because I can't work anymore. I worked a factory job, a place I felt I never belonged but it paid the bills. I miss my group of friends. I'm a mom, I took care of some of these people, others I smacked up side their head and a very few I had a close friendship with. I'm that person who has one or two close friends her whole life but can usually get along with anybody. I returned here after being absent to share opinions and to replace what I miss about my job, a group of friends to belong to.

Someone told me a long time ago to thank the people in your life who treated you the worst because those were the times you learned the most valuable lessons. Those were the times you discovered who you really are, how strong you can be. Some people go through their whole life and never know how strong they really are. We are all survivors of something!

I've been trying to remember...the movie Hope Floats. At the end Sandra Bullock tells her daughter something and I can't remember exactly how it went. Something to the effect that we spend our whole lives trying to recover from our childhood.

I spent my teens feeling different, outside the norm also. Part of this is because most teens do go through this phase. Kids express it in different ways. We can use this to look at FCA and wonder how she expressed this. As we get older we learn that different can also mean special or unique which was my first impression of you. I felt that if we had met, we could possibly have become close as sisters sometimes do. When I returned to this site I felt like you took it upon yourself to be the welcome wagon. Along with others here you took the time to say Welcome...come on in!...:seeya:

You should be proud of yourself, you've created your own family. You took the time to ask...WHY
You worked hard on yourself and your career and I for one have respect for anyone that works that hard for anything in their life....:heartbeat:
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2goldfish said:
the thing is, and if they want to use "bloggers" as evidence, they can all feel free & clear to use MY posts, particularly this one -

nobody wants OCA to be hurt.

we REALLY LIKE for her to be ANNOYED, INCONVENIENCED, and other things of this nature.

cant use your real name or people spit on you? GOOD.

have hemorrhoids and a pesky yeast infection, maybe BOTH?? GOOD.

roof leaking? GOOD.

cats hiss at you when you pass by? GOOD.

bad case of acne that wont die? GOOD.

you've had hiccups for 5 days running? GOOD.

sprained your ankle running? GOOD.

electronics keep breaking? GOOD.

toilet leaking? GOOD!

tons of people suing you? GOOD.

sunburned? GOOD.

dont get along with your family? GOOD.

you bend over and your jeans split? GOOD.

got split ends? GOOD.

broke a fingernail? got papercuts? got blisters from your shoes? stub your toe? ALL GOOD.

get it, defense? I, personally, and I dare say MOST people, would like nothing more than ICA being sorely inconvenienced at ANY and ALL times. harm her? wouldnt that make me no better than she? most people dont LIKE to hurt other people. OCA is no exception. but aggravated and inconvenienced? yeah, if she was my neighbor....I would deliberately blow dandelions into her lawn. yes, I would. that's the kind of "vigilante" I am.

please, defense. print this out and show the judges how terribly OCA would be treated if no one pets her. I dare you.
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Great post goldfish2 but you forgot one!---No Male friends !! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
 
logicalgirl and MsMacGyver you both are going to make me cry. Now stop that!
 
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