IIRC, they were trying out new software to extract information (faulty at that). Let's also remember that JWG used an even better, updated version. When I think about it all, I liken it to those people put away for crimes who have been recently been exonerated due to DNA testing, testing that wasn't available at the time they were convicted. Now, if I only knew how Baez's experts were able to find this info prior to trial. Perhap JWG can answer that.I would love to know why, when the State had this case for 3 whole years, they waited until the 11th hour (2 months before trial, really?!?!) to extract those files.
IMO, there is simply no excuse for that, especially knowing that Casey lived her life through social networking.
My 2nd question is, why didn't Osbourne notify Linda that they could only extract less than 2% of those files - again - knowing that there had to be more on that hard drive given Casey's lifestyle. You would think that would have been a major red flag for Osbourne.
The Jury mistrusted George so much, (thanks to George's own antics on the stand), that I truly don't believe any of this would have mattered to them nor convinced them of Casey's guilt, but it's still disgusting to know how shoddy Osbourne was both in her recovery (non)-efforts, as well as her notification to LDB.
Happy Thanksgiving all; take comfort in the fact that Caylee is in a much more loving, safer, happier place with God today than she ever was on Hopespring Drive.
BBM. Again, in your opinion. There is absutely NO proof it didn't happen. Period. And cause it's only an opinion, it's not perjury.
IIRC, I was told by one of the lawyers here during the trial that JB can't be sued for anything he says in the courtroom. That's why GA has no recourse against him.
Never looked at them, or couldn't access them (for whatever reason)?Yes, because the files were handed over to the defense prior to trial. OCSO never looked at them. Baez's team did.
IMO
George was in on the game.
jmo
That whole phony story of Casey being raped while waiting for the school bus in the morning....TOTAL PERJURY by Baez, imo.
IMO
George was in on the game.
jmo
And Cindy
Brad Conway would not agree with you. He complained to OC Sheriff dept that Baez lied to Judge Perry when he told him that Conway had seen evidence showing that Caylee was not in the woods four months before her remains were found there.
He told investigators "I certainly did not see that, wasn't aware of it.
Conway said he was thinking at the time "Bull****, that didn't happen."
Have you also forgotten about the letter Mr Stogsdill wrote to the court re Baez and his lies to Judge Perry about payment for Court reporting services..
Last but not least, remember when Judge Perry said to Baez "Y'all lied to me. I can't trust one thing your side says anymore!"
That was typical of their exchanges. Judge Perry knew he was being lied to on a daily basis. He caught them and so did we..
BUMP, BUMPok, I will bite. again. my snip, btw, I'll only reply to this bit, because when I hear something like this, I just think maybe not everyone has read all the documents. because according to the documents, ALL THE STICKINESS WAS GONE. the reason the tape was still present in its original position was because the ends were taped to caylee's hair on either side, becoming matted and tangled in throughout the time spent underwater, decaying, and being worried at by animals. the tape, because of the matting of the ends in her hair, remained so tight against her face that HER. TEETH. WERE. STILL. IN. PLACE. when the remains were found.
---------Copied from post. Bump
Exactly!! :banghead:
I think GA knew what was what by the time Caylee was found, but not at the time she was murdered. The whole business of getting the car from impound and other things make no sense to me if he already knew what had happened by then.
Yes, in light of what we know now (JB was aware of the suffocation search during the trial), it makes the "celebration" even more disgusting. They weren't celebrating the fact that they got an "innocent" person off...they were celebrating the fact that they won; they got the jury to believe their BS.I'm still angry too! Thinking about poor lil Caylee and then after the verdict...the defense team partying it up and flipping the bird out the window. They knew she was guilty and yet still chose to act like they won the lottery. So disgusting but I am in awe of both Az & JWG for setting the record straight. Thank you so much for all you've done.
IIRC, I was told by one of the lawyers here during the trial that JB can't be sued for anything he says in the courtroom. That's why GA has no recourse against him.
As soon as they smelled the car they knew someone was dead. When they found Casey they knew it was Caylee. It was all cover-up from then on.
Inside the house they knew "the ***** in that room" had the answers to what had happend to Caylee, but GA was not allowed to investigate further.
I know that he cannot be sued for slander for saying that in his opening statement. But he cannot continue to make those accusations in print or on tv without some kind of proof.
Ok...I'm reading backwards...there are two interesting point you've made here: 1) SO knew about the search (so who the heck on the PT read Jose's cr*ppy book??!!), and 2)WTH!!! OSCO only gave them partial results??!!Yes. After JB's book came out this summer, the prosecutors asked her to confirm that there was really a "fool-proof suffication" search, and she was able to access the files at that time, so I don't know what changed. By the time I contacted her in late July, she already knew all the details of the searches.
Oh, I know. I wish we had been able to get the whole hard drive image.
If there was, I would have posted it in the computer forensics thread. I think I did post something about Cindy's apparent attempt to investigate Casey and her friends the night before she finally tracked Casey down.
More importantly, I doubt George would have bothered accepting a Facebook friend for Casey and checking a Myspace comment in the middle of his "suicidal" search.
The entire hard drive was turned over to the defense. The defense extracted and reviewed the relevant internet history files. The prosecution only got partial files from OCSO.
As soon as they smelled the car they knew someone was dead. When they found Casey they knew it was Caylee. It was all cover-up from then on.
Inside the house they knew "the ***** in that room" had the answers to what had happend to Caylee, but GA was not allowed to investigate further.
BBM I did not realize that the defense was given the entire hard drive, while the prosecution only got partial files. I don't fully understand how all of this works, so maybe I'm reading something into this that isn't there. I guess my question is, why was this the case and, could this have had any impact on the end results, i.e., on the fact that the foxfire browser "fool-proof suffocation" search was not discovered by the prosecution? :waitasec:
Technically the prosecution did have the entire hard drive. Their computer forensics person failed to extract the FF browser history.
Excellent post! Thanks button just wouldn't do.
JB repeatedly perjured himself in court and because he is a defense attorney, that's just fine.
True justice would require that regardless of the trial outcome, an attorney be held responsible for misconduct, which SHOULD, but sadly doesn't include, telling baldfaced lies that contradict each other in a court of law.
JB ought to be punished for his lies. But he won't be.
That whole phony story of Casey being raped while waiting for the school bus in the morning....TOTAL PERJURY by Baez, imo.
IIRC, they were trying out new software to extract information (faulty at that). Let's also remember that JWG used an even better, updated version. When I think about it all, I liken it to those people put away for crimes who have been recently been exonerated due to DNA testing, testing that wasn't available at the time they were convicted. Now, if I only knew how Baez's experts were able to find this info prior to trial. Perhap JWG can answer that.
I've always thought though that GA and CA did their best to delude themselves, for as long as they could, that their own offspring could not do something this heinous. I think they found out for sure when KC bonded out in August or September of 2008. It was in October 2008 that CA made the big slip of saying "we don't believe Caylee's in the woods", and in November 2008 Dominic Casey was trudging around the very area Caylee was found likely looking for the body. I suspect that there was some kind of "hallelujah" moment for them, by way of a confession perhaps, when KC was out of jail. JMHO.
The judicial system is looking for the truth I believe.
The evidence must support it. It only makes sense.
The facts (IMO) supported this, but were distputed, effectively.
Had the prosecution been correctly advised of the Internet searches, I believe the whole course of the trial and the evidence would have had a different outcome. It's so obvious!
Jmo