Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #3

[cloudajo]

a thought, the witness said he saw a guy standing by the truck. the LE said there are two shooters and MF said possibly there were three people there. what if the guy standing by the truck was watchout while the other two had the girls in the wooded area. maybe seeing this witness driving by scared him so he called the other two back and that's when the girls were killed...after they came out of the woods and before the men got back into the truck.

Interesting thought.

 

[cloudajo]

I havent got all caught up from last night yet but is it possible that Linda is Taylors mother? She would have been, what, 14 when Taylor was born right? Maybe she was raised as her sister because she was so young at the time. And she was raised as her sister. Thats why she would be listed as a sister in her Obit. Just a thought...

I was wondering that too.

 

[cloudajo]

i believe the photo is made from just south of the residence.looks like a mailbox beside the truck in the foreground. i didn't see another house or drive between taylor's house & the bridge on satellite images of county line road.

could the vehicles in the background be parked where traffic was stopped a little this side of the crime scene? the roadside memorial is not right at the place the girls were found...... another thing, the 900 foot measurement may have been made from her house, down the driveway & then to the scene..... one more, a railroad is very near, if a train was passing, one wouldn't distinguish gunshots very near.

Thanks. So if we are looking at that pic, do we know if the witness that drove by the POI was driving past the Placker's first and heading north (or we don't know)? And the POI/truck would have been down on the right side of the road?

Just trying to visualize it...

 

[cloudajo]

I don't have a link to a news story, but someone on IS just posted that Fox News said they (I guess LE) are releasing another sketch today.

I hope it includes the white pickup truck.

 

[Albert18]

Regarding the two guns...

If the scattered shots on the girls are all from the same small caliber gun and the more accurate shots are from the larger caliber gun then I don't know why LE thinks there are two shooters. Because all this tells you is that the smaller gun was used first and then after the girls were immobilized the larger gun was used.

I assume the reason the 2nd gun was used was because of destructive power. This was one nasty dude.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Fox News said that OSBI is going to come out with a new composite of the POI.

The spokesperson said all the witnesses are very much similar when describing him so I am now thinking more people saw him on that road somewhere. Maybe not at the same place but in the near area before the shootings or right after.

imoo

 

[Albert18]

If that photo is accurate then something certainly isn't right about what we have been told. And that is to put it mildly.

 

[cloudajo]

If that photo is accurate then something certainly isn't right about what we have been told. And that is to put it mildly.

What are your thoughts on that?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If that photo is accurate then something certainly isn't right about what we have been told. And that is to put it mildly.

Why? Doesn't their home sit up further off the road and the driveway winds out to the main dirt road? I live in the country and I cant see if someone was parked right at my mailbox up on the road. I wouldn't even be looking out to see if someone was on the main road one way or the other anyway.

They say they were murdered about 900 feet from Taylor's home.

imoo

 

[Desertsand]

What are your thoughts on that?

Lastnight I was browsing the Oknews sight and there were two picture of this pickup parked at the entrance to the driveway. It showed men a little futher up to road than this picture does. If you look right under the tree limbs you can see what looks like is more leaves but that was where the men were standing indicating the crime scene. I have looked for the other picture this morning but it is not there. I wonder why it was removed.

 

[noZme]

Thanks. So if we are looking at that pic, do we know if the witness that drove by the POI was driving past the Placker's first and heading north (or we don't know)? And the POI/truck would have been down on the right side of the road?Just trying to visualize it...

driving down a country dirt road, autos usually travel right in the middle except curves or hills where the line of sight would be restricted. when meeting another auto, each moves to the right as they pass then immediately back to the middle.

about a sibling being the birth mother, that's becoming more plausible to me.... but why wouldn't that have been kept more private?

 

[SuziQ]

I think that article is wrong. I have almost the same picture, saved at work however, taken from the video on Thursday, but it is taken from over in the middle of the road.

What is missing is that the picture is taken from the direction of the bridge (north looking south). The white truck is not at Taylor's house, despite what the article states. The other truck is where the girls were found, but in the picture I have, you can see far in the distance as County Line Rd bends to the east (again looking from the north).

I'll see if I can find it for comparison.

Please do! I also need to go rewatch the video of OSBI. When initially watching the video I got the impression that they were at the actual crime scene. I just didn't know who the mailbox belonged to. I didn't think it was the grandparents because it was so close. Sad if it was that close.

 

[noZme]

look at the mapquest link below. the red star "A" is the intersection of roads N3890 (county line road) & E 1130. the clearing just above & to the left of the star is taylor's house. there is a scale at the bottom right. you can click & drag up county line road to see where it crosses bad creek. i hope this helps.

i think you must change it to aerial image from streetmap
in the 1st frame the creek is a under the county names. click up 1 level & you'll have a better view of the bridge area

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/E1130+rd+%26+N3890+rd+weleetka+ok#a/maps/l::E1130+Rd+&+N3890+Rd:Weleetka:OK:74880:US:35.37688:-96.0875:intersection:Okmulgee+County/m:hyb:12:35.37688:-96.0875:0::/io:0:::::f:EN:M:/e

 

[SuziQ]

Regarding the two guns...

If the scattered shots on the girls are all from the same small caliber gun and the more accurate shots are from the larger caliber gun then I don't know why LE thinks there are two shooters. Because all this tells you is that the smaller gun was used first and then after the girls were immobilized the larger gun was used.

I assume the reason the 2nd gun was used was because of destructive power. This was one nasty dude.

Or visa versa. I agree though, one person could have done this. Where I live is rural and many people pack a handgun on themselves and carry a rifle in their vehicles. You never know when you might come across year round game to hunt.

 

[SuziQ]

Here is the raw video of OSBI at the crime scene:
http://www.koco.com/video/16587861/

Here is the timeline map. I doubt it's to scale, but the girls could have been that close to home.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/lightingthewayhome/j11welcrimemap.jpg

 

[KR2tonenow]

I don't know if this has been posted yet. But I found a photo that shows how close the girls were from the house. They were almost home and out of harms way.

http://newsok.com/photo/gallery/?gallery_id=3703

OSBI investigators closed the road past the crime scene to look for more clues in the deaths of Taylor Paschal-Placker and Skyla Whitaker who were shot and killed last Sunday on the dirt road near one of their homes, Thursday, June 12, 2008. The white truck is parked at the driveway of the Placker home and the man in the road is at the crime scene. Photo by David McDaniel

This is almost a few houses down, if it was my neighborhood. Was a silencer used for most the shots, automatic wepons are quiet for the most part, kind of like a pinging sound. What does anyone make of this?

 

[harleysnana]

I looked up Placker in the "Reverse Phone" lookup and found one for a Vicky Placker:

Placker, Vicky
Hwy 75
Weleetka, OK 74880

Is Hwy 75 the same as County Line Road? If so, then the phone number is listed under Vicky's name without mention of Peter. There are other Plackers listed....

I also put in Paschal and came up with over 71 hits in Oklahoma. I would doubt her mother (if she is still alive) would still be living in the area and have kept her last name since she didn't attend the funeral.

How do we know she didn't attend the funeral?
Is it possible she did and it just wasn't pointed out?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm guessing this, too. I don't think it matters to the family or to locals who the parents are or that the parents were not listed. It could very well be an embarrassment to the family.

What happened to the two shooter theory? I find it odd that one person would use two guns to kill the girls. Rosser stated that both girls were shot from both guns.

It also appears that the term "local" has expanded to include eastern OK, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, plus reservations. It appears the POI must not really be local, or IMO he would have been identified by now - $25,000 is a lot of money for folks living in this area.

To clarify, we do not have "reservations" in Oklahoma. The nearest Res where people would go is in the northern states. I can't remember if it is S. or N. Dakota.

We have tribal lands which unless you knew they where they were exactly...you could not tell the difference. In Tulsa, tribal lands house Casinos. It only means the land is owned by the tribe...so anywhere they buy land can be considered "tribal". Hope this clears up this misconception.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

This is almost a few houses down, if it was my neighborhood. Was a silencer used for most the shots, automatic wepons are quiet for the most part, kind of like a pinging sound. What does anyone make of this?

No silencer was used because at least 4 people came forward to say they heard "unusual" gunshots.

 

[SuziQ]

In the OSBI video they are further down the road. Which makes more sense given the description so far. So it appears that they were mapping several points along the road. Either location I could see would have been within eyeshot.