Small Details that are interesting in the Cooper Harris case, #1

[LisaB]

about the cruise....this may be way out there, but person overboard cruise deaths are not that easy to prosecute because they too look like "accidents" plus they are most often in international waters. Just sayin' JMO

As far as the cruise, I think he figured they would go anyway, even without the baby "because Cooper would want us to have fun and live our lives." It would be a great cruise full of teenage babes to ogle by the pool.

Hey, with Cooper gone, perhaps Leanna might be so despondent as to...
yeah, I kept thinking Cooper's death was intended to be followed shortly by his Mom's suicide...

 

[LisaB]

Many of us are unable to access the entire article. If you can, it would be great if you could post it.

We are only allowed to post a small portion, I think 10%, because of copyright laws, I believe.

 

[Lovejac]

LE/prosecution produced a copy of the video to the defense (moo) and then the defense showed brother and the news org. cuckoo for coco puffs if you ask me but I do think that is what happened here.

I think that is EXACTLY what happened.

And sadly, some will fall for this obvious defense spin and AJC will not be anywhere on the radar if/when LH tries to go forward with any defamation suits.

And now, the defense is in bed with AJC and I don't think this will be the last "exclusive" we see from AJC. IMO

 

[cady]

I'm seeing some articles popping up online about police "embellishing" things. Call me naive, but I doubt a detective would knowingly perjure himself on the stand. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Either way, it's still early days. We'll see if the evidence supports the charges in the coming days.

I have looked for and seen a lot too BUT they ALL (that I have seen) are quoting or repeating parts of the AJC article. No one can dispute it because no other media have been so honored as to have access to the NOT FOR PUBLIC videos. JMO

 

[MsMarple]

LE/prosecution produced a copy of the video to the defense (moo) and then the defense showed brother and the news org. cuckoo for coco puffs if you ask me but I do think that is what happened here.

I agree! And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why the ajc and Baygents only nitpicked trivial issues from a three-hour long hearing but it will take a magician to make key evidence disappear.

Smoke and mirrors from the defense. :blah:

 

[cady]

Do you think it is possible that Cooper might have drowned if he'd lived long enough to go on the cruise??

I'm thinking that ANY apparent "accident" would fit the bill...............the hot car death went awry for dear Daddy. JMO

 

[blue22]

I agree! And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why the ajc and Baygents only nitpicked trivial issues from a three-hour long hearing but it will take a magician to make key evidence disappear.

Smoke and mirrors from the defense. :blah:

What makes me so angry, is this behavior is from a veteran cop. A Sergeant and instructor. It's ridiculous.

I would not be surprised to find this nonsense creates issues at his job.

 

[blue22]

I'm thinking that ANY apparent "accident" would fit the bill...............the hot car death went awry for dear Daddy. JMO

I am really thinking that the cruise was the original plan. I think he couldn't afford it, and had to come up with a new plan. I wonder if his computer evidence will reveal any research on drownings.

Totally JMO and personal speculation.

 

[cady]

What makes me so angry, is this behavior is from a veteran cop. A Sergeant and instructor. It's ridiculous.

I would not be surprised to find this nonsense creates issues at his job.

Agree. He is essentially accusing Stoddard of perjury...........JMO

 

[kimi_SFC]

Wrong thread

My apologies

:blushing:

 

[cady]

Does anyone know if the reporter(s) have twitter accounts? Wonder if they are getting any flak. JMO

 

[LisaB]

gngr, love those ^^^^ smiles :laughing::happydance:

can't see, can't taste, can't hear, can't smell

poor thing the only thing he can do is
get an erection so he can take those pictures.........

lolololol sorry.

Or at least download a photo of an impressive one he can send on as his own...

 

[blue22]

Does anyone know if the reporter(s) have twitter accounts? Wonder if they are getting any flak. JMO

The AJC has a link to it on their twitter, but there is only one retweet

ETA: https://twitter.com/ajc

 

[LisaB]

I confess, that was my first thought after hearing about the cruise and how much RH pestered his brother from Christmas to June until he agreed to the joint trip. Suspicious minds think alike. (Been on several and am more familiar with this unfortunate dark side to the industry.)

This could have been interesting... if the brother thought they were planning to have another child by the time Cooper was 3, the cruise might ave been seen as a last vacation prior to the pregnancy, new house, etc.

But if Leanna's friends were asking in April/May about whether she was planning to become pregnant soon (I realize she said the timing was not good) as though it had been under discussion, that would have meant she would have been 6 months pregnant (potentially) when the cruise came along (it was being planned months before she stated a child was not a good idea at the present time), which doesn't sound like much fun to me. Pregnant mom running after the toddler while Daddy plays games with the teens.

 

[blue22]

This could have been interesting... if the brother thought they were planning to have another child by the time Cooper was 3, the cruise might ave been seen as a last vacation prior to the pregnancy, new house, etc.

But if Leanna's friends were asking in April/May about whether she was planning to become pregnant soon (I realize she said the timing was not good) as though it had been under discussion, that would have meant she would have been 6 months pregnant (potentially) when the cruise came along (it was being planned months before she stated a child was not a good idea at the present time), which doesn't sound like much fun to me. Pregnant mom running after the toddler while Daddy plays games with the teens.

Gah...I REALLY hope LE is onto this and looking for research on cruise accidents and drowning.

 

[LisaB]

BBM.

I just took a quick look at 4 bedroom homes in East Cobb, and it appears the average price in the lower end range is about $250K. Closing costs alone for $250K will be about $5,000 to7,000. With about 5% down, one would need at least $15-20K in cash to close on a home in that price range, and possibly more for PITI, depending on the loan terms. With a 30 year loan at 6.5%, monthly payments would be around $1700.

They may have been doing just fine meeting their financial obligations as renters, on their 2 salaries. An average full time dietitian (assuming she was full time) makes around $50K/ year, and with his Home Depot salary of $61K, they probably made a little over $100K together. I don't know what kind of a raise RH was trying for at HD, but I'd be surprised if it would have been more than an additional $10K, so his monthly income would not have risen very dramatically even if he got the raise. The Chick Fil A corporate job he interviewed for was probably a lateral move at approximately the same income range.

I think they had a comfortable lifestyle, and really, $4000 credit card debt isn't very far outside of the norm these days for folks in that income range.

They would need a bit more than $6000 cash to close on a 4 bedroom home in that area, but perhaps their parents were going to loan them some money? Who knows-- it's a moot point now.

And I also kind of wonder why RH gave control of their finances to his brother?? (From the AJC article.) Why would LH not be able to handle their finances? Could they be seriously contemplating that she might be arrested, too?

Add in the cost of daycare for the additional child/children they wanted to buy the house to have. NOW the budget gets really tricky.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I don't really understand the idea that this article was written to protect AJC from a defamation lawsuit. Unless they published articles in the past that Leanna or Ross would have a case against, what would they be worried about? And wouldn't all the other media outlets be publishing this information too if that was an issue?

 

[CHERIE.T]

How can prosecutors create false impression from something that came straight from the horses mouth? :waitasec:

The horse being RH and LH

They can't.

 

[TorisMom003]

I hope the brother keeps on talking. The more he does, the more comes out. Now if only Leanna would go against her lawyer and speak out as well.

MOO

 

[blue22]

BBM.

I just took a quick look at 4 bedroom homes in East Cobb, and it appears the average price in the lower end range is about $250K. Closing costs alone for $250K will be about $5,000 to7,000. With about 5% down, one would need at least $15-20K in cash to close on a home in that price range, and possibly more for PITI, depending on the loan terms. With a 30 year loan at 6.5%, monthly payments would be around $1700.

They may have been doing just fine meeting their financial obligations as renters, on their 2 salaries. An average full time dietitian (assuming she was full time) makes around $50K/ year, and with his Home Depot salary of $61K, they probably made a little over $100K together. I don't know what kind of a raise RH was trying for at HD, but I'd be surprised if it would have been more than an additional $10K, so his monthly income would not have risen very dramatically even if he got the raise. The Chick Fil A corporate job he interviewed for was probably a lateral move at approximately the same income range.

I think they had a comfortable lifestyle, and really, $4000 credit card debt isn't very far outside of the norm these days for folks in that income range.

They would need a bit more than $6000 cash to close on a 4 bedroom home in that area, but perhaps their parents were going to loan them some money? Who knows-- it's a moot point now.

And I also kind of wonder why RH gave control of their finances to his brother?? (From the AJC article.) Why would LH not be able to handle their finances? Could they be seriously contemplating that she might be arrested, too?

It has been said she is part time. They had the $4,000 he mentioned, student loans, and 2 cars. That is a lot of debt for people wanting a house. $6000 is very little for people wanting a house. So they put that toward the house, then what? They have nothing else. Not to mention that is only the debt we KNOW about. I would not be surprised to find that he created secret debt.

Then add a new kid, and the potential cost of creating that child, if they need medical help. Daycare costs for that child, or the loss of her income if she stays at home.