Small Details that are interesting in the Cooper Harris case, #2

[kjpaw]

My two cents is probably worth even less than that, but all we know AT THIS POINT, is that he was sexting. I think plenty of people look at *advertiser censored* (definitely just moo) but sexting is different because there is a personal exchange going back and forth, way more personal IMO. I think that's the reason sexting, combined with that the detective said that RH had actually met at least one of these women, is their motive focus. I work with cops on a regular basis and I highly doubt those texts/sexts were even almost interesting to them. Sadly they see that stuff all too often. My experience is that only the out of the ordinary stuff gets them interested and I feel pretty sure sexting is only interesting to them in this case bc of the timing... during Copper's death. They're humans and any tittalation factor would be diminished by the fact that it was happening as a child was dieing. Moo. GA is pretty slow in releasing info so we're all left trying to piece it together without all the pieces, and guessing at what's in the holes.

Eta: and in no way am I'm judging anyone for trying to figure out the info we don't have because I'm doing the same. Just saying we're all left to speculate on some of these issues

 

[Evie Ivy Over]

I think plenty of people look at *advertiser censored* (definitely just moo) but sexting is different because there is a personal exchange going back and forth, way more personal IMO. I think that's the reason sexting, combined with that the detective said that RH had actually met at least one of these women, is their motive focus.

I think of sexting as kind of new-age *advertiser censored*. The younger generation is used to more stimulation than any others before them; can you envision young men brought up on very realistic video and role-playing games settling for looking at pictures, when they can ramp it up with technology? Sexting is primarily a younger person type of thing, but I would definitely still consider it as *advertiser censored*. Older people may not use their phones as much, but they still get on forums and join adult sites to accomplish the same effect.

Based on what we know of RH, I just can't see him wanting to kill his son so he could be free to meet up with women he had sex chats with. That just sounds really absurd, and again, sounds like a theory developed by someone who doesn't understand where our culture has evolved. I am in no way saying that I agree with it, but it is what it is.

As far as the cops and their reactions to the sex texts, who knows? Like so many other things surrounding this case--we just don't.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it's not happening.

https://wsr.byu.edu/pornographystats

EIO

I just can't see him wanting to kill his son so he could be free to meet up with women he had sex chats with. That just sounds really absurd, and again, sounds like a theory developed by someone who doesn't understand

bbm

I've bitten my tongue for a long time.

Quite frankly these posts are insulting to men and LE. moo

And a little CONDESCENDING to those who don't agree with them.
Remember WS is a LE friendly forum.

What's absurd imo is defending a sexual abuser of teens who
is a [modsnip]/.:no:uke:

imoo

 

[MyBelle]

Yes, sometimes they do conspire--there are too many people in prison right now because of inept--both intentional and unintentional--law enforcement investigations and interpretations. Not saying all cops are bad cops, but please avoid blind faith with them.

http://www.innocenceproject.org/understand/Government-Misconduct.php

The important thing for you to remember is that blind faith is easily detected. The world isn't snowed nor ever has been.

 

[MissJ]

Nor are we snowed by those who hate all LE.

 

[MyBelle]

I think of sexting as kind of new-age *advertiser censored*. The younger generation is used to more stimulation than any others before them; can you envision young men brought up on very realistic video and role-playing games settling for looking at pictures, when they can ramp it up with technology? Sexting is primarily a younger person type of thing, but I would definitely still consider it as *advertiser censored*. Older people may not use their phones as much, but they still get on forums and join adult sites to accomplish the same effect.

Based on what we know of RH, I just can't see him wanting to kill his son so he could be free to meet up with women he had sex chats with. That just sounds really absurd, and again, sounds like a theory developed by someone who doesn't understand where our culture has evolved. I am in no way saying that I agree with it, but it is what it is.

As far as the cops and their reactions to the sex texts, who knows? Like so many other things surrounding this case--we just don't.

Sorry. I don't believe sexting is some form of new-age *advertiser censored*, I think it is a form of stupidity. I think all the online forums you reference have not only already found him guilty but sent
him up the river a long time ago. People are getting tired of this crap, imo.

 

[Donjeta]

Sexting and *advertiser censored* are inclusive:

*advertiser censored*
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*advertiser censored*

"Pornographers have taken advantage of each technological advance in the production and distribution of *advertiser censored*. They have used lithographs, the printing press, and photography. *advertiser censored* is considered a driving force in the development of technologies from the printing press, through photography (still and motion), to satellite TV, other forms of video, and the Internet. With the invention of tiny cameras and wireless equipments voyeur *advertiser censored* is gaining ground. Mobile cameras are used to capture pornographic photos or videos, and forwarded as MMS, a practice known as sexting."

I think the time Stoddard spent on the details of RH's sexting were done for the "WOW" factor Do you think that someone who browses *advertiser censored* on a regular basis has the right to accuse a person who sextes of being an immoral person, or maybe just more immoral?

JMO. None of us have any way of knowing how regular Stoddard's *advertiser censored* viewing habits, if any, are and furthermore, whether or not he or other members of LE engage in a legal viewing activity is not the least bit relevant here.

RH is in prison because he has admitted to leaving his toddler son in a hot car for hours, while he was sexting with a minor. No doubt some members of LE watch *advertiser censored*, but it doesn't make Cooper any less dead or the minor RH sexted with any less a minor.

Everyone gets to decide how they view the respective immorality of *advertiser censored* and sexting for themselves so it may be relative, but the investigation is concerned with whether or not RH broke the law which is written down.

 

[MissJ]

Stoddard is not the one who left Cooper in a hot car while playing with his privates. Nor is he charged with a crime. Enough said.

 

[Elley Mae]

I keep coming back to him saying he thought Cooper was choking. Which is so absurd I think it could be the small detail that does him in. What possible rationale could he come up with to explain why he would think that?

OT but Sorrell Skye, "gag me with a spoon", that is a blast from the past! Where did that even originate from (I mean I understand the meaning but who made it into a common-at that time- expression)? :hilarious:

'I know he had lost his baby but he was acting up more than he should have been. It seemed like acting to me. When he pulled in and people started asking him what had happened, he said that the baby had just started choking.

‘But the baby didn’t look like it had been choking, it looked like it had been sweating, like it had been in a swimming pool, his hair was all wet.
‘I think the dad knew all along that his baby was dead because he’d been left in the car, I think he was looking round for a place where there was people so he could make it look like the baby had choked and it wasn’t his fault.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...or-awful-day-make-supporters-think-twice.html

I have a feeling the witness's accounts of what transpired in the immediate aftermath of JH pulling over is what helped in his arrest.

Oh and the valley girl thing with the, gag me with a spoon,,,,, Thank the one and only Frank Zappa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB8JVTDOK-g

 

[MissJ]

RH's supposed 6 minutes on his phone while his baby lay on the hot pavement probably figured into LE's perception that he did this on purpose.
A total lack of interest in his child at the time.

 

[cady]

RH's supposed 6 minutes on his phone while his baby lay on the hot pavement probably figured into LE's perception that he did this on purpose.
A total lack of interest in his child at the time.

...and total avoidance of LE who were there to assist (doing what they are paid to do). SIX minutes is a very long time to linger on the phone in an emergency. JMO

 

[osu]

Connecticut mother whose son died after being left in hot car says she forgives husband
Published July 29, 2014 Associated Press

NEW HAVEN, Conn. – A Connecticut woman whose 15-month-old son died this month after her husband left him in a car on a hot day said Tuesday he is an amazing father and she forgives him.

Lindsey Rogers-Seitz, of Ridgefield, said Kyle Seitz was distraught after taking their son to a hospital. She said when she got to the hospital, she told her husband she loved him and made sure he looked at her.

"I love my husband," Rogers-Seitz said. "Of course I forgive him. But it doesn't mean that our lives aren't different now. So we have to move forward with a new different reality for us, and it's always going to be that way."

Rogers-Seitz, an attorney who also has two daughters, said in an interview Tuesday with The Associated Press that her family is grieving together.

Police say the father was supposed to take son Benjamin to day care but went to work and left him inside the car on July 7 for "an extended period of time." The temperature in western Connecticut reached into the upper 80s that day.

~snipped


Prosecutors said the man was extremely fatigued and mistakenly believed he had dropped off the 9-month-old at a babysitter's home on his way to work. To have criminally charged the father, prosecutors would have needed to prove he committed a reckless act rather than one resulting from inattention or mistaken judgment.

More at link: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/2...ed-after-being-left-in-hot-car-says-forgives/

 

[osu]

Woman runs over couple who called cops about boy left in hot car
JULY 31, 2014
http://pix11.com/2014/07/31/woman-runs-over-couple-who-called-cops-about-boy-left-in-hot-car/

 

[CHERIE.T]

:gaah: that is insane! such a horrible story.

 

[oh_gal]

Connecticut mother whose son died after being left in hot car says she forgives husband
Published July 29, 2014 Associated Press

NEW HAVEN, Conn. – A Connecticut woman whose 15-month-old son died this month after her husband left him in a car on a hot day said Tuesday he is an amazing father and she forgives him.

Lindsey Rogers-Seitz, of Ridgefield, said Kyle Seitz was distraught after taking their son to a hospital. She said when she got to the hospital, she told her husband she loved him and made sure he looked at her.

"I love my husband," Rogers-Seitz said. "Of course I forgive him. But it doesn't mean that our lives aren't different now. So we have to move forward with a new different reality for us, and it's always going to be that way."

Rogers-Seitz, an attorney who also has two daughters, said in an interview Tuesday with The Associated Press that her family is grieving together.

Police say the father was supposed to take son Benjamin to day care but went to work and left him inside the car on July 7 for "an extended period of time." The temperature in western Connecticut reached into the upper 80s that day.

~snipped


Prosecutors said the man was extremely fatigued and mistakenly believed he had dropped off the 9-month-old at a babysitter's home on his way to work. To have criminally charged the father, prosecutors would have needed to prove he committed a reckless act rather than one resulting from inattention or mistaken judgment.

More at link: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/2...ed-after-being-left-in-hot-car-says-forgives/

(above, bbm)
Wow. If he was that tired, should he have been a) caring for a baby; b) driving a car; c) going to work?

I'm not saying this guy did this on purpose...but if you know you're that tired, don't try to go about your day as if you have no impairment. Stay home. Call a babysitter. Get your rest.

 

[PaperDoll]

'I know he had lost his baby but he was acting up more than he should have been. It seemed like acting to me. When he pulled in and people started asking him what had happened, he said that the baby had just started choking.

‘But the baby didn’t look like it had been choking, it looked like it had been sweating, like it had been in a swimming pool, his hair was all wet.
‘I think the dad knew all along that his baby was dead because he’d been left in the car, I think he was looking round for a place where there was people so he could make it look like the baby had choked and it wasn’t his fault.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...or-awful-day-make-supporters-think-twice.html

I have a feeling the witness's accounts of what transpired in the immediate aftermath of JH pulling over is what helped in his arrest.

Oh and the valley girl thing with the, gag me with a spoon,,,,, Thank the one and only Frank Zappa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB8JVTDOK-g

I agree with you, I believe he did OVER ACT, he had to. He probably had other plans on how Cooper was to be discovered but it may not have gone the way he hoped. I truly believe the witnesses who said it seemed he was over acting and doing things that were a bit odd. Then to tell the LE to F..K off, well that was just over the top. I personally would welcome LE and I personally would cooperate with them fully. But if I intended to kill my child, then I might just be acting like RH.. :jail:

 

[Hippiemomof5]

What's absurd imo is defending a sexual abuser of teens who
[modsnip]/.:no:uke:

Snipped and bbm

:tyou::takeabow::blowkiss::happydance::loveyou::yourock::yeahthat:

 

[CHERIE.T]

Snipped and bbm

:tyou::takeabow::blowkiss::happydance::loveyou::yourock::yeahthat:

Thank you! :loveyou:

 

[Hippiemomof5]

(above, bbm)
Wow. If he was that tired, should he have been a) caring for a baby; b) driving a car; c) going to work?

I'm not saying this guy did this on purpose...but if you know you're that tired, don't try to go about your day as if you have no impairment. Stay home. Call a babysitter. Get your rest.

I'm in no way defending this man, however, if every parent who was tired took the day off when they were tired, new parents would hardly make it to work the first year! My fourth child was colic and screamed 16 hours a day the first 11.5 months of his life, only sleeping 45 minutes at a time, upright on someone's chest with a vacuum running. He didn't sleep through the night until he was about 5.5 years and even now, at 9, he still wakes me up once or twice a week because he's woken up and can't fall back to sleep. Thankfully, I stay at home and can just hit the snooze button on our daily schedule or whatever errands we have the next day. When he was an infant, during the week, I'd stay awake with our son and my husband went to bed because he had a long commute so I wanted to make sure he was well rested, but on the weekends, my husband took over and let me sleep while he stayed up with the screamer. That's not possible in marriages where both partners work or in single parent homes where the parent still has to wake up and get to work. I still look back on that year and feel like you couldn't pay a million dollars to relive it, and I had a supportive husband, no job to worry about...

Editing to add: so I'm saying, I'm not defending him, millions of new parents are tired, and I don't think being tired is a good excuse for taking off of work or accidentally killing your baby. MOO

 

[al66pine]

....
... I just can't see him wanting to kill his son so he could be free to meet up with women he had sex chats with. That just sounds really absurd, and again,... I am in no way saying that I agree with it, but it is what it is....

. BBM SBM

You cannot see it, okay, fine.

But is it poss he did it, to be free to meet up with women he had sex chats with and progress to other activities, like -
- more frequent meet-ups w those particular women,
- overnight meetups w those women,
- extended affairs, in addition to meet-up/hook-ups (maybe not, short attention span)
- meetups, affairs w other women, etc.

Not saying this is necessarily the case, but
is it possible sexting & local park hook-up were no longer enough to ring his chimes?

Perhaps eventually dump Leanna, one way or another.