South Africa - Martin, 55, Theresa, 54, Rudi van Breda, 22, murdered, 26 Jan 2015 #3

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J: Splatter blood stains on wall average impact, suggests projection or alternative impact, Rudi and Martin's blood

J: Splatter blood stains on wall next to the window, suggests impact or projection

Donor of the blood stain is Rudi van Breda

Splatter blood stains against wall adjacent to door frame of H/R's bedroom. 40.26 degrees

J: Stain suggests projection or alternative impact, donor are Teresa van Breda

J: Splatter blood stain against wall next to H/R's bedroom door, projection or impact

J: Splatter blood stains against wall passage way, impact angle 28.34 degrees suggests impact as position mechanism

J: Impact angle and direction suggests that it may have originated from same source referenced in B

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J: Splatter blood stains on shelf in passage way, circular, average impact angles 33.6 degrees, projection position mechanism

Probably created as result of object in motion

Donor of this sample was Marli van Breda

J: Non splatter on side of Rudi's bed, lateral movement visible, classified as swipe stains, contact

Created as result of blood stain on a hand swiping the bed @CapeTownEtc donor was Rudi van Breda

J: Non splatter blood stains side of Rudi's bed, lateral movement visible, swipe stain, contact as position mechanism

J: Stains created as result of contact with blood stained hand on the side of the bed and belonged to Rudi

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J: Splatter blood stain, elliptical shape, impact angle 81 degrees suggest caused by impact, donor of stain Rudi

Splatter blood stain on wall in H/R's room, impact angle 51 degrees, stain suggests impact.

Void on Henri van Breda's bed most likely created by intervening object removed after the stain caused

J: blood stain created by blood bearing object in motion over bed sheet and pillow

J: Blood clot observed on knife under Rudi van Breda's bed

J: blood clot observed on side of Rudi van Breda's bed

J: following possible blood identified after applying chemical

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J: These areas between shower door handle possible blood detected

possible blood detected on shower door and floor

J: on shower floor Donors of blood Teresa, Henri and Rudi van Breda

J: Looked at photos taken by Kleynhans before Marli was removed

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All blood stains on the bedroom wall and floor and bedrooms belong to the victims.

Our livestream is back up!

He documented the stains and patters by photos and sketches.

Interpretation: until 30 January 2015, stains identified were:

- Non spatter on tile floor at front door entrance.

- Transfer blood stain, suggests contact. Probably created of contacted from object onto tile floor.

- Non spatter on tile floor at front door tile, regular shape, no reconcilable pattern.

- Transfer blood stain. Probably created between object and tile floor, resulting in transfer.

- Non spatter on tile floor at front door entrance, regular shape, recognisable stain, probably created from blanket of EMS and dropped onto the tile floor.

Interpretation continued: until 30 January 2015, stains identified were:

- Spatter stains on the staircase, circular and linear, classified as a drip. blood result of a source of motion.
- Blood spatter stain on Teresa Van Breda right leg. Random.
- Blood spatter on buttocks of Teresa, circular shape, dripping form a moving object in this area.

Interpretation continued: until 30 January 2015, stains identified were:

Non-spatter on tile floor on first floor passageway. Regular shape stains, from source object. Classified as pattern transfer. Probably created between a EMS stretcher and tiled floor.

[url]http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/live-henri-van-bredas-murder-trial-resumes-20170911[/URL]
 
- Non spatter on cabinet on first floor, irregular shape, no recognisable pattern. Probably made by blood stained fingertips of EMS personnel while assisting Marli van Breda.

- Spatter on tile floor in front of Henri's room. Elliptical. Impact spatter. Probably caused by force applied of something travelling through the air and resulting in impact.

- Spatter on bedroom door.

- Headboard spatter suggests impact possible. Created by force applied on blunt force which resulted in spatter of small droplets. Henri's blood.

- Wall spatter against the wall, probably caused by bloody object.

- Spatter on bedroom wall, possibly caused by projection

- Spatter on wall next to Rudi. Elliptical, impact spatter pattern. Prob force applied to blood source on the bed, creating a impact spatter pattern. Henri's blood.

Non splatter blood stains on the floor of Rudi/Henris bedroom. Complex splatter. Blood clots present in blood stains, Rudi's blood.

Non splatter blood stain in their bedroom. Contact stain, created by Rudi or a hair like object covered in the victims blood.

Spatter stains on staircase wall. Linear, probably caused by blood bearing object striking staircase wall. Rudi van Breda's blood.

- Wall adjacent to wall of boys bedroom: cant define mechanism, suggests impact or projection. Teresa's blood.

- Spatter blood stains on shelf in passage way, circular, average impact. Angles 33.6 degrees, projection position mechanism. Probably created as result of object in motion. Marli's blood.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/live-henri-van-bredas-murder-trial-resumes-20170911
 
Splatter blood stain on wall in Henri and Rudi's room. Impact angle 51 degrees, stain suggests impact.

Blood clot observed on knife under Rudi van Breda's bed, blood clot observed on side of Rudi van Breda's bed.

Used a chemical to check for possible blood.

Found possible blood on:

Shower door handle

On shower tap,

Shower door

Shower wall

Shower floor

Donors – Teresa, Rudi and Henri

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/live-henri-van-bredas-murder-trial-resumes-20170911
 
Thank you for updated JJ, this is making me feel a bit sqeamish :eek:
 
Joubert is now going through all the exhibits and evidence bags he received reading out every single identifying number

He has mentioned a grey towel, blue nike apparel, a sharp dangerous object, a t-shirt

J: received and documented the axe, he received photographs, he identified the following possible blood on the axe

J: I identified possible blood swabs removed from the axe handle and the axe blade

J: One swab containing possible blood removed from axe handle close to blade

Swabs collected from exhibit 6, sealed in forensic evidence bag

J: Grey shorts had multiple splatter blood stains on the front

Splatter blood stains indicate full penetration of the fabric by the blood splatter stains

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Size shape composition suggest impact position mechanism

We adjourn for lunch and legal teams have now agreed that this witness need not read every case number in his report

[This is just as well as 216 samples were collected from the scene]

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Thank you so much JJ for all the posts. I wonder how long it will be before Joubert can get to the "meat" of his testimony, ie his opinion of what happened gathered from the bloodstains. I think it likely he will be on the stand for several days.
 
Interested Bystander said:
Thank you so much JJ for all the posts. I wonder how long it will be before Joubert can get to the "meat" of his testimony, ie his opinion of what happened gathered from the bloodstains. I think it likely he will be on the stand for several days.
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As he has so much evidence to present to the court, and then there's cross-examination, I can well imagine he'll be there all week.
 
I'm also very grateful for all the effort you are doing. The blood in the shower showing rudi Henri and Theresa's blood sounds promising.
 
We are back in court with Captain Marius Joubert

J: During examination of grey shorts I identified splatter blood stains

J: Grey shorts splatter stains, full penetration of fabric knit

J: Splatter blood stains suggest impact, created by force applied to blood sources resulting in break up of blood into small spots

J: while flying through the air

J: possible blood removed from grey shorts, donor of stain is Rudi van Breda

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J: Cutting of blood from shorts donor of blood stain Rudi van Breda

Another Cutting of blood stain from shorts, donor is Rudi van Breda

Another few cuttings possible blood from grey shorts donor Rudi van Breda

J: Cutting possible blood removed from grey shorts, donor was Rudi van Breda

J: Cutting possible blood removed from grey shorts, donor is Rudi van Breda

J: cutting containing possible blood, removed from grey shorts.

J: cutting possible blood removed from grey shorts, Donor of stain is Rudi van Breda

Galloway interrupts, can we shorten this by saying up until exhibit 127 the same cuttings

J:eek:f 67 splatter stains in front of grey shorts Rudi VB-35 stains identified, Henri VB 9 splatter stains, Martin VB- 5 stains

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Teresa VB was part of mixtures which includes Henri Rudi and Teresa, 3 mixture splatter stains

J: That is just the frontal aspect, no blood of Marli identified

J: Contact blood stains on the grey shorts

J: Donor of the contact blood stain, Rudi van Breda

J: Next type of stains drip stains on grey shorts, created as result of blood dripping from blood sources

J: Number of non-splatter blood stains suggested as drips on front of grey shorts

J: blood stains, saturation blood stains on front of grey shorts probably as result of blood flowing downwards due to gravity

One saturation cutting, no DNA test on that stain, the blood DNA test wasn't done.

J: Blood clot on the grey shorts, most likely created by contact between blood source and grey shorts, No DNA indication

J: Possible urine stains on the grey shorts, these are on photographs of the shorts

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J: Received grey duvet cover

J: received a pair of socks

J: the socks had possible blood, multiple splatter blood stains

J: splatter stains indicated full penetration of the fabric suggest impact as position mechanism created as result of force

break up blood traveling through the air

J: removed 17 blood stain cuttings from socks. Rudi VB-9 samples. Martin VB- 1 sample. Teresa 1 sample Henri VB 2 samples

J: Blood stains were identified on the top and on the sides of the socks

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J: Cuttings from the socks were sent to DNA dept for laboratory identification

J: I received the towel, no blood on the grey towel

J: examined the grey duvet cover similar to shorts and socks.

J: Removed 8 cuttings from the Duvet. DNA profile of Rudi VB identified on 2 exhibits.

J: The 8 cuttings were sent for DNA profiling

J: Blue T shirt examined but did not further examination

J: T shirt was found half underneath the bed of Henri van Breda at the back of Rudi van Breda

J: As a result of where it was found we did not examine it further

12 cuttings were taken from grey duvet cover belonging to Rudi VB

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