Stacy Ann Peterson, Bolingbrook IL #10

[Taximom]

I would say that Cassandra AND Sharon should be given equal time. LOL

I know there wouldn't be much left after they were with him, but can we have the scraps?!

 

[DeltaDawn]

I think that she was definitely murdered that Sunday morning.

By 2:30 PM Drew was CALLING OFF work because was Stacy was gone.

My question is..didn't they children go over to Sharon's for a short time in the afternoon ? Didn't one of the children tell her Mom and Dad had a bad fight..and Sharon thought the child seemed frightened?

Then Cassandra is trying to reach Stacy..I am thinking possibly Cassandra may have called Sharon and known something horrible was happening. We know that by 11PM she was fairly certain of that

 

[SeriouslySearching]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I know there wouldn't be much left after they were with him, but can we have the scraps?!

:liar: Sure! It would take awhile to take out his growing nose!

 

[SuziQ]

Can you imagine the hustle and bustle that was going on in the Peterson home when he killed Stacy? You have 4 kids at home, who are probably used to a certain routine on Sundays. They are probably allowed free reign into the parent's bedroom typically. Mommy usually makes them something to eat or has coffee etc after she wakes up. Daddy probably comes down and tells a bunch of funny jokes.

However, that morning the kids hear them fighting. Then they hear nothing, or maybe they hear someone hitting the floor, wall or furniture.

I imagine Drew was quite active afterwards trying to figure out what he was going to do next. Possibly a little nervous only that the kids would see what had happened. He's locking doors, maybe, to keep them out of the bedroom. Or bathroom where maybe he placed her body till he could dispose of her.

He's running around finding barrels and containers and tape and maybe some kind of chemical to throw off the scent..... Geez, I can't imagine what it was like that day around there.

They had to notice something was up, but it probably didn't mean much to them because they were probably told "mommy doesn't feel well so don't bother her", then "mommy went to grandpa's".

My kids know that if my van is in the driveway, I'm usually still home....

And that is why I don't think this was preplanned. Drew may have been thinking about getting rid of Stacy eventually if he felt she was a threat to exposing the murder of Kathleen.

IMO, if this was preplanned he would not have killed her or taken actions to get rid of her with the kids around. He would have taken more care to make it look like an "accident". Obviously, whatever he did to Stacy he could not make look like an accident. The way he ran around here and there and involving other people reeks of him covering his *advertiser censored** because he didn't have a plan.

 

[Taximom]

I think that she was definitely murdered that Sunday morning.

By 2:30 PM Drew was CALLING OFF work because was Stacy was gone.

My question is..didn't they children go over to Sharon's for a short time in the afternoon ? Didn't one of the children tell her Mom and Dad had a bad fight..and Sharon thought the child seemed frightened?

Then Cassandra is trying to reach Stacy..I am thinking possibly Cassandra may have called Sharon and known something horrible was happening. We know that by 11PM she was fairly certain of that

That's right about the children going to Sharon's. Wasn't it around 1:00? Sharon went to the store earlier and was back right before noon, I thought. Didn't she call over to see if the kids could come over as she had treats for them? (She's so sweet!) Drew spoke to her I believe. What was his excuse again for not letting Sharon talk to Stacy?

That's what I don't get about the container being warm. I'm assuming she was dead by noon. By the time TM helps w/the "warm" container, it's been at least 8 hours or so since Stacy's death. Unless she was somehow dying slowly, and didn't die completely till later.

UGH, the thought sickens me. :sick:

 

[SuziQ]

I think that she was definitely murdered that Sunday morning.

By 2:30 PM Drew was CALLING OFF work because was Stacy was gone.

My question is..didn't they children go over to Sharon's for a short time in the afternoon ? Didn't one of the children tell her Mom and Dad had a bad fight..and Sharon thought the child seemed frightened?

Then Cassandra is trying to reach Stacy..I am thinking possibly Cassandra may have called Sharon and known something horrible was happening. We know that by 11PM she was fairly certain of that

Yes, when Sharon got back from the store and called to talk to Stacy because she had bought suckers for the kids. IIRC, the son answered and stammered and said Stacy was (where I can't remember). Drew sent the kids over there.

 

[Taximom]

I agree with you, SuziQ. I think this time his temper got the best of him and the fight went out of control.

Just the way he's lunged at some reporters in his driveway gives me the creeps. I imagine he was in her face like that all the time.

 

[dee10134]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but my brother thought of this..

I live about 5 minutes away from Bolingbrook and they just completed the construction for the I-355 extension (in which part of it is in or right by Bolingbrook). At the time of Stacy's disappearance, the construction was still going on. My brother and his friends were saying that they think it could have been possible for Drew to go out there and bury the container under some of the stones before the pavement was layed down.

It's just a theory. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion about that or if anybody has any construction knowledge and thinks this could be a possiblity.

MaiseyJane, the I-355 extension was pretty much completed by 10/28. It opened on 11/12, Veteran's Day (observed). IIRC, they were just completing the final phase, which pretty much was putting the lane paint on the road and putting up the signs. The pavement was down WAAAY before 10/28, so there's no way Stacy's in any concrete pilons or pavement.

 

[SuziQ]

I think Tom told Walter he knew Stacy was in the container because it was warm, because he didn't want to tell Walter the real reason he knew Stacy was in there. Really, unless the container was sitting on a heat vent, there is no reason for it to be warm. The container had sat there for over two hours while Drew and Tom sat at Krispy Kreme.

 

[DeltaDawn]

That's right about the children going to Sharon's. Wasn't it around 1:00? Sharon went to the store earlier and was back right before noon, I thought. Didn't she call over to see if the kids could come over as she had treats for them? (She's so sweet!) Drew spoke to her I believe. What was his excuse again for not letting Sharon talk to Stacy?

That's what I don't get about the container being warm. I'm assuming she was dead by noon. UGH, the thought sickens me. :sick:

By the time TM helps w/the "warm" container, it's been at least 8 hours or so since Stacy's death. Unless she was somehow dying slowly, and didn't die completely till later.


That is the same thought I had as soon as we heard the warm container story..Suppose she was beaten so badly she was barely alive, comatose maybe. Could that be the reason for all the barrels, boxes, asking truckers to transport her..because she wasn't dead yet..but Drew knew she would be within hours and he needed to get her body out of that house? Either that or he kept her body wrapped in an elctric blanket until that evening so rigor mortis wouldn't set in. I know that sounds far fetched..tha's why I was afraid to post it and even start down that road.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I ran across this statement when looking for the date the kids went to get their candy from Sharon. BBPD said they were informed Stacy was missing after 4:00 am. I know we discussed this earlier that Cassandra had said she had already contacted them at 2:30am...but according to this article...she had not. My guess is that Cassandra did tell Drew that she already spoke to them to get his reaction.

"At approximately four in the morning, the family of Stacey Ann Peterson went into the Illinois State Police District 5 headquarters and reported her as a missing person. State police followed up with our department, sharing the information," said Lt. Ken Teppel.

Police say she was wearing a red jogging suit when she left. She was supposed to meet a family member to help paint a house.

http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t11509.html

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think Tom told Walter he knew Stacy was in the container because it was warm, because he didn't want to tell Walter the real reason he knew Stacy was in there. Really, unless the container was sitting on a heat vent, there is no reason for it to be warm. The container had sat there for over two hours while Drew and Tom sat at Krispy Kreme.

Chico already went through this. The body only loses temperature at the rate of one degree per hour after death. At 80 degrees, it would still be "warm" to the touch by the time Tom helped move the container to the car if her body was in it.

 

[dee10134]

I am still worried about Sharon... does anyone know if she is under any type of police protection?

IMO Sharon doesn't need police protection. She's pretty much under 24/7 surveillance anyways... just by living next door to DP.

 

[SuziQ]

I ran across this statement when looking for the date the kids went to get their candy from Sharon. BBPD said they were informed Stacy was missing after 4:00 am. I know we discussed this earlier that Cassandra had said she had already contacted them at 2:30am...but according to this article...she had not. My guess is that Cassandra did tell Drew that she already spoke to them to get his reaction.

"At approximately four in the morning, the family of Stacey Ann Peterson went into the Illinois State Police District 5 headquarters and reported her as a missing person. State police followed up with our department, sharing the information," said Lt. Ken Teppel.

Police say she was wearing a red jogging suit when she left. She was supposed to meet a family member to help paint a house.

http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t11509.html

Downers Grove PD and BBPD had bounced Cassandra around for hours before going to ISP. The original statement that Cassandra went to LE shortly after midnight is the correct one.

 

[Taximom]

I saw that discrepancy earlier and wondered what Cassandra had to say about it. I'm pretty sure she would know what time she filed a report!

Maybe she got there at 2:30 and it took that long for the actual report to be finalized? I also wonder if it got special treatment because one of their own was involved, so things had to be handled differently. The commander was probably home in bed and had to be alerted etc. (Just thinking out loud.)

Or LE just decided to wait till the bars were closed and people had time to get home.

 

[dee10134]

You know, I had not really thought about what actually was going on in the home with the kids that morning. (Shame on me!)

The younger kids would normally get up around sevenish, if they were on a normal schedule. Stacy would have already given them breakfast and had them going for the day.

Who was supposed to be watching the kids if she was going to go paint? She knew Drew would be asleep if he worked the night before. Did they depend on the older children to watch them often? Maybe the fight first started because she demanded that Drew get up to watch them so she could go?

If the fight then escalated and he killed her...where did he leave her? With the chance the children could find her...maybe this is where the "container" came into play. He went ahead and stuffed her into it (it was probably there because she was loading his things into it!) because rigor would set in and later he would not be able to do this.

Then why was the container still warm when TM helped DP move it? If DP murdered Stacy in the morning, wouldn't she be cold by the time TM assisted DP???

 

[TGIRecovered]

That's what I don't get about the container being warm. I'm assuming she was dead by noon. By the time TM helps w/the "warm" container, it's been at least 8 hours or so since Stacy's death. Unless she was somehow dying slowly, and didn't die completely till later.

UGH, the thought sickens me. :sick:

This is really gross, but I think that there would be some heat generated by decomposing flesh and body fliuds if the warm body were sealed in a container for several hours. At the very least, the enclosed space would slow down the cooling of the body and still feel warmer to the touch. A container filled with water or another liquid would feel cool to the touch.

 

[nanandjim]

I still can't get over what a psychopath DP is. It seems to me that only a murderer who had gotten away with it before would be so cavalier about murdering yet another person. In his wildest dreams, he didn't bank on this story being picked up by the media. Apparently, no one cared about Kathleen. So why would anyone care about Stacey?

 

[Taximom]

I'm having a hard time with the body still feeling warm after 8 hours. But whatever! If that's what TM felt, then that's what he felt.

 

[SuziQ]

Hmmmm, I'm wondering if I could gather enough jugs of warm water to put in a container to see what happens after a couple of hours?