Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #11 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[BostonMom]

I am not buying it yet.

What is it that you are not buying yet?

 

[Just K]

Suspect Killed by FBI Used to Live in Watertown, Allegedly Played Role in Waltham Murders:
http://watertown.patch.com/articles...otwn-allegedly-played-role-in-waltham-murders

Watertown again...remember the delivery order... Gerry's Italian Kitchen is there in Watertown, too. And right behind it the Planet Aid Donation Box, and today someone posted the address, just about a block away from the shootout, of another friend of TT and DT.

 

[i.b.nora]

What is it that you are not buying yet?

Well, I guess I am sort of trying to figure out what it is I am not buying.

The killing of the alleged suspect bothers me enormously and makes everything they (the FBI) say, suspect to me.

Its all just 'too pat', for me at this juncture.

 

[PrairieWind]

What is it that you are not buying yet?

There is still a lot of facts missing here that we may learn later, but right now, he is right, some things are pretty weird. Why was he being interviewd in his home in a residential complex after midnight? A bit odd. I imagine they were planning to arrest him, thats why they had the state police (to take him into custody). But they may have wanted to try to get more of a confession. They did that at his place rather than at the police station or FBI office because there would then be more of an impression he is "in custody" and would have to be read miranda rights, and he would clam up. They didnt want to do that yet. So interviewed him at his place but not sure why in the middle of the night. But why would he not be patted down (for officer safety) or somehow allowed to get ahold of a knife. If the discussion got heated and he reached for a knife, why not Taze him etc? They outnumbered him at least 4-1 or 5-1? Not saying anything is wrong, its just a bit odd right now from what few facts have been released. I think that along with the fact that a lot of the bombing investigation has been weird has people being more skeptical than normal.

 

[Just K]

What else were they supposed to do when he attacked them? Todashev is the one to blame here

I agree with you but they could have maimed, tazed or maced him, before shooting to kill.

Now there is this new development:
"The officers had been interviewing Mr. Todashev in his apartment for some time when he tried to attack them, the official said. Investigators said they initially believed Mr. Todashev had used a knife in the attack, but in the afternoon, they said that it was unclear what he was holding when he violently attacked an agent." http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/officer-involved-in-shooting-of-man-tied-to-tsarnaev.html?_r=0

 

[time]

There is still a lot of facts missing here that we may learn later, but right now, he is right, some things are pretty weird. Why was he being interviewd in his home in a residential complex after midnight? A bit odd. I imagine they were planning to arrest him, thats why they had the state police (to take him into custody). But they may have wanted to try to get more of a confession. They did that at his place rather than at the police station or FBI office because there would then be more of an impression he is "in custody" and would have to be read miranda rights, and he would clam up. They didnt want to do that yet. So interviewed him at his place but not sure why in the middle of the night. But why would he not be patted down (for officer safety) or somehow allowed to get ahold of a knife. If the discussion got heated and he reached for a knife, why not Taze him etc? They outnumbered him at least 4-1 or 5-1? Not saying anything is wrong, its just a bit odd right now from what few facts have been released. I think that along with the fact that a lot of the bombing investigation has been weird has people being more skeptical than normal.

I agree, this needs to be much clearer.

Here is a bit more info:

Todashev was being interviewed by two Massachusetts State Police officers and a Boston-based FBI agent in the kitchen of Todashev's Florida home, when Todashev grabbed a knife, which is why fatal force was used, according to a third source briefed on the ongoing investigation.

"Preliminary information indicates the agent took actions to defend himself," said the federal law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the case.

...Todashev had an impending flight from Orlando, via New York and Moscow, to Chechnya, when investigators sought to interview him, according to a source briefed on the ongoing investigation. He was told not to take the flight, the source said.

...Todashev was granted political asylum in 2008 but he came to the United States some time before that, a federal law enforcement official told CNN. Todashev had been living in the United States as a legal resident because of that asylum claim, the official said.

While the man was being questioned by an FBI agent, two Massachusetts State Police troopers and other law enforcement personnel, "a violent confrontation was initiated by the individual," FBI spokesman Jason Pack said.

http://www.localnews8.com/news/tsarnaev-acquaintance-killed/-/308662/20251486/-/13qpnk7/-/index.html

I think there were two FL law enforcement there and two MSP and an FBI agent - so 5 total at least.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

What else were they supposed to do when he attacked them? Todashev is the one to blame here

Thank you!
ITA

It's hard for me to see the speculation and blame being diverted from the criminals to the agents or LE.

Very hard.

 

[i.b.nora]

"“During the confrontation, the individual was killed and the agent sustained non-life threatening injuries,” according to the statement.
It's not clear who shot Todashev, officials say, because -- while he was being questioned by an FBI agent -- officers from the Massachusetts state police and the Orlando police department were also present in the house where the interrogation was going on."

From: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...e-in-2011-murders-shot-during-fbi-questioning

 

[Capri]

Not that it makes a lot of difference, but the other friend interviewed, said they were to meet FBI at 7:30. He left when LE told him they wanted to talk to Todashev a couple more hours. Possibly, that might explain the "after midnight"? They may have just stayed that long questioning him.

 

[lauramags]

I just wish these people could report the FACTS ONLY!!! Get it right & get it right the first time.
:twocents:

 

[PrairieWind]

Thank you!
ITA

It's hard for me to see the speculation and blame being diverted from the criminals to the agents or LE.

Very hard.

Oh I dont really see real blame being diverted away from the criminals, just a lot of questions people have. I am sure the FBI is upset with how this went down and is asking their own questions. Another suspect is dead, a person who could have perhaps provided more information about the Bombers activities and connections and activities.

 

[Just K]

Thank you!
ITA

It's hard for me to see the speculation and blame being diverted from the criminals to the agents or LE.

Very hard.

No blame referred to...just stating a fact. He was said to be about to sign a confession and now he is dead. So, no way to prove he was there at the Waltham murder scene and no one to independently interview him.

 

[Just K]

oh i dont really see real blame being diverted away from the criminals, just a lot of questions people have. I am sure the fbi is upset with how this went down and is asking their own questions. Another suspect is dead, a person who could have perhaps provided more information about the bombers activities and connections and activities.

exactly!!!

 

[Elley Mae]

"He had been interviewed along with a number of other people in the apartment complex, but the interest in him was higher because of a couple of factors: He was in contact with Tamerlan Tsarnaev, he had been to Boston to visit him, and he was planning a trip to Chechnya," Miller said.

The FBI went to question Todashev overnight after there were indications that he canceled that trip, Miller said. Todashev had been to Chechnya before.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_...iend-ibrahim-todashev-killed-in-fbi-shootout/

bbm, I posted this earlier, but I found this odd.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Oh I dont really see real blame being diverted away from the criminals, just a lot of questions people have. I am sure the FBI is upset with how this went down and is asking their own questions. Another suspect is dead, a person who could have perhaps provided more information about the Bombers activities and connections and activities.

I guess I just have a lot of respect for those who protect us and put their lives in danger so we can be safe. I have never been attacked by a knife packing MMA fighter, so I won't question the agent's actions.

I, personally, and it's just my opinion, have a problem with nitpicking the actions of someone who was in danger and acted to protect themselves.

I don't care if he shot the criminal 57 times.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me.

But it's my opinion.

It's hard for me to read it.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

No blame referred to...just stating a fact. He was said to be about to sign a confession and now he is dead. So, no way to prove he was there at the Waltham murder scene and no one to independently interview him.

But we have a live federal agent.
I'll take it!

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Not that it makes a lot of difference, but the other friend interviewed, said they were to meet FBI at 7:30. He left when LE told him they wanted to talk to Todashev a couple more hours. Possibly, that might explain the "after midnight"? They may have just stayed that long questioning him.

I agree.

With his ties to rebels, the bombing terrorists, the triple murder, and Watertown I'm sure they had a lot to go over.
Not to mention his obvious (previous arrests) out of control temper.

 

[time]

No blame referred to...just stating a fact. He was said to be about to sign a confession and now he is dead. So, no way to prove he was there at the Waltham murder scene and no one to independently interview him.

I wouldn't say there is no way to prove it... right now they are checking to see if there is any DNA for IT and TT from the Waltham crime. Plus, I'm sure they have more info now on that crime than they had two years ago.

 

[claudicici]

I don't know which friend that is. IT does also have a 'friend' who has almost the same last name with a slightly different spelling (Todasjev/Todashev). They talk about sharing a car. In one post he calls him his brother, but maybe that's not his real brother. Anyway, IT's friend Todasjev has a friend who is from Dagestan and has his occupation as Chechen Mafia Weapons Specialist (I'm sure he might just think this is a cute joke?). The two of them live in Norway, but could be in High School?

No,this guy is friends with IT's friend KT,the one that was giving the media interviews.His first name is the same as TT's,lives in New York,is a boxer and seems to be part of whatever these guys are.I think it's a S.W.A.T. team also.I don't think it's the "alpha" team because they would be the enemy?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I may have missed it, but did y'all notice his FB page says he lives in Boston?