The Canvas Laundry Bags

[Theonly1]

I also have not seen a line in any A family backyard photos. Since they have a fenced backyard I would assume the HOA wouldn't have any say about a line back there as it would not be seen.

But, we do live in Orlando and much of the year it rains and rains and rains sometimes every day in the summer. Laundry on the line might be getting another wash if you don't remember it is out there and run retrieve it asap.

 

[marla]

Wasn't there a fold-up hamper or bin or something in Casey's trunk?
I seem to remember George mentioning it ..

 

[Rumpole]

Here's a thought to ponder. No evidence.

What IF the laundry hamper found in Anthony garage and taken into evidence was brand new, bought as a replacement by KC because she had used the existing one? Nearest she could find was same brand, but different shape?

 

[eddeva]

Wasn't there a fold-up hamper or bin or something in Casey's trunk?
I seem to remember George mentioning it ..

i remember that too marla. i think he claimed to have seen it during the gas can incident, or at least during one version of it.

 

[Rumpole]

Wasn't there a fold-up hamper or bin or something in Casey's trunk?
I seem to remember George mentioning it ..

Blue plastic crate in the pontiac trunk:
Blue plastic crate: H-51975, item #9 Taken into evidence 16/07/2008

 

[eddeva]

Blue plastic crate in the pontiac trunk:
Blue plastic crate: H-51975, item #9 Taken into evidence 6/07/2008

yep that would be it.

 

[Marina2]

Here's a thought to ponder. No evidence.

What IF the laundry hamper found in Anthony garage and taken into evidence was brand new, bought as a replacement by KC because she had used the existing one? Nearest she could find was same brand, but different shape?

A matching receipt would be a good find. There's no reason in the world for KC to purchase a hamper unless it was to replace the one she used.

 

[lisalei321]

QUESTION:

As a non US person I don't know exactly what is normal laundry practice.

Do US peeps carry washing to a "washing line" outside where they may be seen by neighbours?

Just as a quick note here, I'm in Central Florida, my dryer broke about oh 4 months ago, DH strung a clothesline, and I now hang all clothes up on the line to dry.

Going along with that, it pretty much rains here everyday in the summertime, usually in the afternoon, so normally plenty of time to get clothes dry, (and the best part, my electric bill has went down about $120 per month)

 

[Searchfortruth]

Didn't BC say on the LK show that the items found at the home matching items found at crime scene were easily explainable because "Caylee was taken from the home" ? I thought I remembered him saying that...Caylee was taken from the home, I wonder what he means by that ?

 

[Rumpole]

Just as a quick note here, I'm in Central Florida, my dryer broke about oh 4 months ago, DH strung a clothesline, and I now hang all clothes up on the line to dry.

Going along with that, it pretty much rains here everyday in the summertime, usually in the afternoon, so normally plenty of time to get clothes dry, (and the best part, my electric bill has went down about $120 per month)

Glad to hear you joined the revolution. :clap:

But I think it's obvious that clothes lines in Florida are not the norm. It could still be that family, friends, neighbours might have seen the Anthonys' laundry basket?

 

[Rumpole]

Didn't BC say on the LK show that the items found at the home matching items found at crime scene were easily explainable because "Caylee was taken from the home" ? I thought I remembered him saying that...Caylee was taken from the home, I wonder what he means by that ?

I think he means that things like hair fibre etc would normally be used to link a body or crime scene to some other place.
In this case Caylee did live at the Anthony home, so just finding a link with the home and fibres etc on the body does not prove anything new.
However, links DO become significant if they are linked to the murder or disposal of a body. Such as the tape on the skull, the garbage bags and laundry bag the body was placed in.

 

[Searchfortruth]

I think he means that things like hair fibre etc would normally be used to link a body or crime scene to some other place.
In this case Caylee did live at the Anthony home, so just finding a link with the home and fibres etc on the body does not prove anything new.
However, links DO become significant if they are linked to the murder or disposal of a body. Such as the tape on the skull, the garbage bags and laundry bag the body was placed in.

Thanks HP ! One more question here, during the search warrant executed in December, the cloth laundry bag at the home was found on the top shelf above the washer inside of a black plastic trash bag. This, IMO, sounds like the cloth bag was hidden by SOMEONE in the family. I just don't see a cloth laundry bag normally being stored in a plastic trash bag. I also thought I had read that the black trash bags found at the home were inside of a cooler, in the garage, but now can't find that document. Anyway, it sounds like someone was hiding these key pieces of evidence...wonder who ? Odd.

 

[fortytwo]

The reason I ask, of course, is just because a trip to washing line would be chance for laundry hamper to have been seen. I live in temperate climate and it's normal to hang washing outside weather permitting. It seems like it would be a great idea in Florida (between hurricanes of course)

My limited experience in Florida has been that the humidity there would likely just make your laundry wetter. (This is during the more optimal times of year.)

Other parts of the country are much more habitable, and your suggestions would be most appropriate.

Two things have contributed to the demise of outdoor laundry drying here. One, of course, is the ubiquity and convenience of clothes dryers.

The other is the stifling effect of neighborhood "associations" and "covenants" which give bored busybodies an opportunity to turn their opinions into mandates.

It is not uncommon for a property to be encumbered with a restriction which prohibits outdoor laundry.

"We don't want our neighborhood to look 'tacky'!"

 

[Rumpole]

Thanks HP ! One more question here, during the search warrant executed in December, the cloth laundry bag at the home was found on the top shelf above the washer inside of a black plastic trash bag. This, IMO, sounds like the cloth bag was hidden by SOMEONE in the family. I just don't see a cloth laundry bag normally being stored in a plastic trash bag. I also thought I had read that the black trash bags found at the home were inside of a cooler, in the garage, but now can't find that document. Anyway, it sounds like someone was hiding these key pieces of evidence...wonder who ? Odd.

I'm prepared to consider the worst spin on things Anthony related, but in this case I don't see much sinister in what you describe. I see the laundry bag as being stored, not hidden. If you have seen photos of the Anthony garage everything is wrapped, packaged and stored - tons of stuff. I believe Florida is prone to floods and damp humid weather, so not unusual to pack a laundry hamper away? Of course I don't know that for sure.
I have not seen anything about trash bags in a cooler.
The way things worked out with the remains not being found untill december, the Anthonys had 5 months to "hide" or get rid of things. I don't know if any of that went on, but I think they would have done a much better job on garbage bags and the laundry hamper if they were attempting to hide or get rid of those items?

 

[fortytwo]

Here's a thought to ponder. No evidence.

What IF the laundry hamper found in Anthony garage and taken into evidence was brand new, bought as a replacement by KC because she had used the existing one? Nearest she could find was same brand, but different shape?

Ooohhh!!!

I like it!

That is exactly the sort of thing our darling KC would think she could get away with.

Nah. Too much wishful thinking.

I still like it, though.

 

[Rumpole]

My limited experience in Florida has been that the humidity there would likely just make your laundry wetter. (This is during the more optimal times of year.)

Other parts of the country are much more habitable, and your suggestions would be most appropriate.

Two things have contributed to the demise of outdoor laundry drying here. One, of course, is the ubiquity and convenience of clothes dryers.

The other is the stifling effect of neighborhood "associations" and "covenants" which give bored busybodies an opportunity to turn their opinions into mandates.

It is not uncommon for a property to be encumbered with a restriction which prohibits outdoor laundry.

"We don't want our neighborhood to look 'tacky'!"

Thanks 42. Long time no cross paths.

Evidence of "not outside washing lines" has been mounting. I accept its not a runner! Still think a bit of ultra-violet would be an asset in clothes sterilisation?
(The excuse of "humidity" does not "Wash" with me. Outside washing lines all the rage in Singapore where its 99% humidity except during afternoon monsoon. Washing dried never the less.)
No matter all I am after is a witness or two who saw a round canvas laundry bag in use at the Anthony house prior to 16th june 2008.

 

[Searchfortruth]

OK, I finally found the document that lists where the black trash bags were found, in the A home. Hope this isn't too OT. This is interesting, the trash bags with red handles were found out in the open on the garage shelves, the trash bags with yellow handles were found "inside of a cooler, on the top shelf" in the garage. There were also two trash bags w/ yellow handles found in the dog crate on the top shelf in the garage. The trash bags found w/ the remains had yellow handles, IIRC. This clearly looks like they were hiding evidence to me.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/...released_in_casey_anthony_case.html?refresh=1

Part 1 Documents, 2/18/09...page 3406 and 3407

 

[Searchfortruth]

I'm prepared to consider the worst spin on things Anthony related, but in this case I don't see much sinister in what you describe. I see the laundry bag as being stored, not hidden. If you have seen photos of the Anthony garage everything is wrapped, packaged and stored - tons of stuff. I believe Florida is prone to floods and damp humid weather, so not unusual to pack a laundry hamper away? Of course I don't know that for sure.
I have not seen anything about trash bags in a cooler and I have read all the documents.
The way things worked out with the remains not being found untill december, the Anthonys had 5 months to "hide" or get rid of things. I don't know if any of that went on, but I think they would have done a much better job on garbage bags and the laundry hamper if they were attempting to hide or get rid of those items?

Not a great job with the hiding of evidence, if that's what this was. Maybe it was Casey when she was out on bond. She wouldn't have wanted to throw it away, their trash was subject to search. Maybe she realized that she had done such a poor job of covering her tracks prior to being incarcerated, and wanted to try and clean up some while she had the chance...she had to be thinking about the possibility that they might find the body and the things she left with it, trash bags, etc...

 

[fortytwo]

Thanks 42. Long time no cross paths.

Evidence of "not outside washing lines" has been mounting. I accept its not a runner! Still think a bit of ultra-violet would be an asset in clothes sterilisation?
(The excuse of "humidity" does not "Wash" with me. Outside washing lines all the rage in Singapore where its 99% humidity except during afternoon monsoon. Washing dried never the less.)
No matter all I am after is a witness or two who saw a round canvas laundry bag in use at the Anthony house prior to 16th june 2008.

(bold above by me)

I was being facetious. (Of course, you know that.)

My distaste for Florida's climate is matched only by my dismay at its topography ... or lack thereof.

I too deplore the sad passing of outdoor laundry, and hope for its resurgence. Alas, I don't see that happening here in our apt. complex. The folks with neighborhood covenants will have to fight their own battles. They knew what they were signing.

 

[Rumpole]

OK, I finally found the document that lists where the black trash bags were found, in the A home. Hope this isn't too OT. This is interesting, the trash bags with red handles were found out in the open on the garage shelves, the trash bags with yellow handles were found "inside of a cooler, on the top shelf" in the garage. There were also two trash bags w/ yellow handles found in the dog crate on the top shelf in the garage. The trash bags found w/ the remains had yellow handles, IIRC. This clearly looks like they were hiding evidence to me.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/...released_in_casey_anthony_case.html?refresh=1

Part 1 Documents, 2/18/09...page 3406 and 3407

One black garbage bag Garage-East area, inside suitcase
One black garbage bag with red handles Garage-East wall
One box of "Husky" garbage bags with red handles Garage-East wall shelf
One black garbage bag with yellow handles Garage-North wall, upper shelf, inside cooler
One black garbage bag Garage-North wall
Two black garbage bags with yellow handles Garage-North wall, upper shelf, inside dog crate
One black garbage bag with red handles with
One "Whitney Design" canvas/vinyl laundry bag Garage-North wall, upper shelf
One black garbage bag with yellow handles Garage-South wall, top shelf
One black garbage bag with yellow handles South shed


I stand corrected. Cooler was mentioned.
This is list of all garbage bags. In my opinion this does not suggest garbage bags were systematically hidden?